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Q2 2008 Earnings Call· Thu, Oct 4, 2007

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Research In Motion second quarter fiscal 2008 results conference call. (Operator Instructions) I will now turn the conference over to Edel Ebbs, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Edel Ebbs

Management

Thank you. Welcome to RIM's fiscal 2008 second quarter results conference call. I am Edel Ebbs, RIM's Vice President of Investor Relations. With me on the call today is Jim Balsillie, RIM's Co-CEO, and Brian Bidulka, RIM's Chief Accounting Officer. After I read the required forward-looking statements disclaimer, Jim will provide a business and strategic update. Brian will then review second quarter results and I will discuss our outlook for the third quarter of fiscal 2008. We will then open the call up for questions. I would like to note that this call is available to the general public by a call-in number and webcast. A replay of the webcast will also be available on the rim.com website. We plan to wrap up the call today a little before 6:00 p.m. Eastern. Some of the statements we’ll be making today constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the United States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and applicable Canadian securities laws. These include statements about our expectations and estimates with respect to revenue, gross margin, operating expenses, CapEx, depreciation and amortization, investment income, earnings, earnings per share, and ASPS for Q3 and beyond; our expectations regarding RIM's near and long-term tax rates; our estimates of the number of BlackBerry subscriber accounts, subscriber account additions, replacement device sales, and other non-financial estimates; our product development initiatives and timing; developments relating to our carrier partners; new and expanding markets for our products, and other statements regarding our plans and objectives. We will indicate forward-looking statements by using words such expect, anticipate, estimate, may, will, should, forecast, intend, believe and similar expressions. All forward-looking statements reflect our current views with respect to future events and are subject to risks and uncertainties and assumptions we have made. Many factors could cause our actual…

James L. Balsillie

Management

Thank you, Edel. We are pleased with the record results for the second quarter with revenue earnings and subscriber account additions all above the high end of the ranges we guided in June. This out-performance was driven by the strong product cycle we are in the midst of, as well as the diversification of our user base across multiple geographies and multiple market segments. International markets continue to grow, now representing approximately 32% of our subscriber account base and the percentage of subscribers coming from non-enterprise is also increasing, with over 30% of our base now in this category. We are also continuing to see an increase in the number of devices being sold as upgrades or replacements to existing users. We are excited about the strong product introduction cycle that is continuing in Q3, with the 8130 Pearl for CDMA and the 8120 WiFi Pearl with Telefonica, as well as the BlackBerry Unite, which I will discuss in greater detail later in the call. Demand for BlackBerry products and services in Q2 was robust, with approximately 1.45 million BlackBerry net subscriber adds accounts added during the quarter, which was higher than our June forecast of 1.325 to 1.375 million, and was 21% higher than the approximately 1.2 million subscriber accounts added in Q1. We believe that the traditional summer slowdown did not affect the Q2 results due to strong demand for new products, such as the BlackBerry 8830 World phone and the BlackBerry Curve 8310 launch this summer, as well as the ongoing strength and demand for the Pearl 8100 and the Curve 8300. In addition, with the BlackBerry solution now available from approximately 325 carriers around the world, other markets balance out the seasonally slower ones and the high percentage of our net adds coming from non-enterprise also…

Brian Bidulka

Management

Thank you, Jim. Revenue for the second quarter ended September 1st was $1.37 billion, up 27% from $1.08 billion in the previous quarter. Handheld devices represented $1.08 billion, or 78% of RIM's revenue during the quarter, up from 76% of total revenue in the previous quarter. Total devices shipped in the quarter of approximately 3.1 million were up from 2.4 million in the prior quarter. Approximately 2.7 million new devices were activated in Q2, either for new customers or for replacements and upgrades. Actual sell-through was somewhat higher as there are some devices sold without a BlackBerry service plan that are not captured in this number. The ratio of devices activated to net subscriber account additions has increased slightly from Q1 as replacement and upgrade sales continued to increase. Channel inventory on a four-weeks basis remained approximately flat in Q2. Average device ASPs were slightly higher than expected at approximately $353. This is due to mix of handsets shipped in the quarter. We expect ASPs in Q3 to be approximately $340. Service revenue was $201 million, 15% of revenue for the quarter, up $27 million from Q1. With respect to monthly ARPU, as expected it declined slightly on a normalized basis in the quarter. Software revenue was $57 million, or 4% of revenue. Other revenues, such as repairs and accessories, was $36 million, or 3% of revenue. Gross margin for the first quarter was just over 51%, which is in line with our June guidance. Operating expenses increased slightly more than we had forecast last quarter. R&D spending was $88 million, or 6% of revenue for the quarter, and selling, marketing and administrative expenses increased by 12% to $198 million, and were 14% of revenue. Included in Q2 op-ex is slightly higher compensation expense than in the previous quarter due…

Edel Ebbs

Management

Thanks, Brian. Before I discuss our outlook for Q3, I would like to remind everyone that these forward-looking statements reflect management’s best current estimates and should be taken in the context of the risk factors listed at the beginning of the call and outlined in our public filings. We are forecasting revenue for the third quarter of fiscal 2008 to be significantly higher than Q2, in the range of $1.6 billion to $1.67 billion. We expect hardware shipments to be over 3.7 million units at an average ASP of approximately $340. The expected increase in volume of shipments is due to carriers ramping newly launched products, such as the Curve 8320 and 8310, the BlackBerry 8820, and the new color variants of Pearl, as well as shipments to support the launch of the 8130 CDMA Pearl and the 8120 Pearl scheduled later in the quarter. We are also expecting a high level of upgrade sales to continue as the subscriber account base grows. With the expansion in our downstream channels that has been achieved over the past several quarters, the higher levels of inventory required by carriers as they head into the holiday season, and large shipments of new products to support carrier launches scheduled in the latter part of the quarter, we are expecting the forward weeks of inventory to increase somewhat in Q3. We continue to be comfortable with the level of inventory at most carriers. Software revenue in Q3 is expected to increase modestly. We are targeting net subscriber account additions for Q3 of approximately 1.65 million. So far in the quarter, we have seen an average weekly run-rate of approximately 125,000 which, on a straight line basis, equates to quarterly net subscriber account additions of just over 1.625 million. With a number of product launches and…

James L. Balsillie

Management

Thanks so much, Edel. We are pleased to have passed a number of key milestones in this quarter, including shipping our 20 millionth device and surpassing 10 million total subscriber accounts. We are on track to end the third quarter with over 12 million subscriber accounts and are excited by the range of opportunities we see ahead of us in multiple market segments around the world. We look forward to leveraging these opportunities to drive continued growth and earnings leverage of our business. This concludes our formal comments. Due to the large number of people on the call, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question per person. We plan to end the call today by approximately 6:00 p.m. Would the Operator please come on to handle questions?

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from Gus Papageorgiou of Scotia Capital. Please go ahead.

Gus Papageorgiou - Scotia Capital Markets

Analyst

Thanks. Jim, I just wanted to talk a little bit more about this BlackBerry Unite, specifically on remote access control content. I guess you will be able to use your device to buy content and then that content is delivered directly to your PC, so I’m assuming you can buy music, pictures, whatever using your device and then it is stored directly onto your PC. Is that how it is going to work?

James L. Balsillie

Management

Well, yes, the way I think of it is that BlackBerry is a synchronization engine and there are three places where people, we see them synchronizing. We see them synchronizing behind a firewall, which is obviously we use for the BES server. They synchronize into the cloud, which is the BIS, BlackBerry Internet Service, and BlackBerry Unite is really a synchronization server for the PC, and the PC is very common at the home and at the Soho. So it just -- it’s what you synchronize and who you synchronize with tends to be different because in the home, it’s very much blurred between work and family and what you synchronize too tends to be much more for pleasure and media. But to us, they are just files with interfaces that you synchronize and that you cache and that you render, so however you get your content is your decision but by all means, there will be purchasing options as a commerce transaction on the device. But we think the very powerful aspect is that it is as you say, a remote control to remotely change how you want them synchronized, your playlists, and a lot of preferences, whatever it may be. Really, it extends to work information, it extends to pictures, music, and there is a lot of activity when it comes to video and video synchronization, so the remote control, coupled with the synchronization and the caching of something in the home where it is very personal and you also have a WiFi airlink option for larger files, is a very, very nice complement to the behind the firewall and in the cloud types of synchronization, and they can all be mixed and matched and it is free. So it is very powerful and there was a very important message that we put in there and I hope it came through, is that we -- our products are offered through our carrier partners and we believe that the carriers should be a strategic platform. Every smart carrier that I deal with around the world has very powerful convergence strategies, and so this product is about making the carrier a convergence platform as opposed to disintermediation strategies that make them a pipe. Yes, as you say, it is very powerful to the user and it s very aligned strategically to the carrier, so this is good.

Gus Papageorgiou - Scotia Capital Markets

Analyst

Are you working with content providers to get them involved in this service as well?

James L. Balsillie

Management

Yes, for sure the -- yes. And more so -- we’ve done a lot with the portal folks on an app basis and on a messaging basis so far. In the past, most of the cooperation is on the video side -- normal consumer and entertainment video stuff, both Internet and non-Internet. The other thing, which is very interesting, is that the combination of music coupled with the fact that BlackBerry is a data platform and you can populate an icon. We’ve had a very bit of inter-relationship with music companies who are looking at creating a more direct relationship with their subscribers for merchandising purposes of music and other things, and it requires an open communications platform, as well as a media player, so this whole relationship with the content on the video side and on the music side is emerging very nicely and it is a very nice complement and enhance to what we are doing for sure.

Gus Papageorgiou - Scotia Capital Markets

Analyst

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Mike Abramsky of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Mike Abramsky - RBC Capital Markets

Analyst

Thanks very much. Yes, Jim, first just a brief housekeeping question; it seems there is a gap between -- or maybe I’m wrong -- there’s a gap between the last quarter ending sub adds, which was I think around 9.3 and this quarter, over 11 and your 1.45 million sub adds. I’m just wondering if there is another adjustment here to the sub based on reconciliation. I think we saw something like this in Q107.

Edel Ebbs

Management

I’m going to take that question. Every quarter there is always small adjustments to the base. There was nothing abnormal this quarter. I think where some analysts get into trouble is just that cumulative rounding over a period of time. There are small adjustments every quarter from prior periods and I think the cumulative effect of that together with rounding sometimes means you are off by 100,000 or so in your calculation versus where we actually report we are.

Mike Abramsky - RBC Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay, so nothing material in that last quarter?

Edel Ebbs

Management

No, no.

Mike Abramsky - RBC Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay, my question is on new devices. There’s been some rumors of more multimedia-centric devices coming that have different form factors. I know you don’t comment on these devices but could you perhaps talk a little bit, Jim, about how maybe some of your strategies and thinking are going against some of the new consumer form factors we’ve seen out there. Some of the apps, of course, LBS, multimedia video, but there is also -- you’ve got the iPhone and Touch, Verizon Voyager, LG Prada, which are emphasizing larger screens and interactive UIs. How are these things affecting your thinking in your product line?

James L. Balsillie

Management

Well, it’s a very good question and we try to think of these things as a system. At the core, we think of the devices as the presentation terminal. It’s got IO packaging and it requires a -- you know, and the principal focus is balancing richness and efficiency and scarcity. And then you need a synchronization engine because people view these as network appliances that synchronize generally to a distributed set of server stores in their life. And then the third thing is you need a channel relationship or you need a direct relationship where the carrier is prepared to be simply a data pipe. And so our view of it is strategically, we endeavor to evolve carriers’ relationships with voice customers to platform relationships on an OEM relationships with BlackBerry, which is the synchronization engine, as I mentioned, in the three different areas that we synchronize to. Of course, we have a rich channel relationship with them and a comprehensive synchronization capability, and that is to work in harmony with the devices. The devices are not in isolation. So as the transports get richer, as the back-end stores people want to connect to proliferate, and as the kind of applications people want evolve, of course it creates tremendous opportunities to innovate on the device side. Things like YouTube video weren’t even concepts not a long period of time ago. Even the synchronization of an MP3 from a PC store is a relatively new concept in the hardware world, and then the fact that it’s just a software op on a cell phone is much, much newer. And then you look at the fixed mobile convergence, you look at new user input things where people want a lot of screen real estate with the ability to evolve it to varying forms of input -- you know, there’s a tremendous amount of innovation on there. But the key is is the efficiency platform of the device and the performance of the synchronization engine and the alignment of the carrier channel in our world are preconditions. And then absolutely a rapidly emerging dimension of innovation is the IO packaging, and that is something we absolutely do well in and we are innovating and we are driving and we have lots of exciting demands and lots of exciting partnerships, but it’s always looked at in a system service, efficiency and channel relationship context. Chasing pretty packaging is not really what drives us, but that being said, exciting forms of multimedia IO and form factors the complement all the different services that people want and offer in wireless, it’s absolutely a big, big part of our business and it’s hard not to get excited by larger and addressable markets and compelling services and the kind of things that people are prepared to pay more money for to the carriers and churn less.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Jim Suva of Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Jim Suva - Citigroup

Analyst

Thank you very much. I believe you made a comment that you said consumer represented about or just over 30% versus enterprise, which would be the remainder. Could you talk a little bit about exactly what that number was? And as you look forward say next quarter and then maybe even a year further down the with all these new product launches, how do you see the enterprise versus consumer breakdown shaking out?

James L. Balsillie

Management

This is the first quarter where our subs in a quarter for the non-enterprise were bigger than the enterprise in North America. So BIS was bigger than BES and the enterprise business is growing very fast. The non-enterprise business is growing very, very fast. When you look at the TAM for the BIS and the Unite market, it is a bigger TAM and it’s an emerging TAM, but when you look at things like the mobile voice server service and the PBX synchronization, that people -- and the WiFi 6 mobile convergence piece, as well as all the web services, it’s a very, very exciting prospect indeed. If I had to guess, I think they both are going to grow strong but I would have to think that over time, the non-BES market just has a bigger addressable market, just by sheer numbers to address around the world than the BES market, and it’s a more elusive market but we seem to be honing in on it really nice. So I think the long-term trend is the BIS and the Unite are going to have just incrementally stronger growth rates and the law of compounding is just going to shift the composition slowly over time.

Jim Suva - Citigroup

Analyst

Great. Thank you and congratulations.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Paras Bhargava of BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Paras Bhargava - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst

Good afternoon. Jim, could you tell us a little bit about the replacement cycle? What is the average age of your devices in the field today and how long do you expect the replacement cycle to continue?

James L. Balsillie

Management

What is interesting is that whenever we come up with -- you know, companies try to get longer replacement cycles to amortize their devices but whenever we come up with a hot new device, there just seems to be a rash of unfortunate breakages at the large corporations. I don’t know if that’s just a mathematical anomaly or intentional. These things are quasi-disposable, really and I don’t have specific stats but -- Edel, I don’t know if you have more but generally, you should think of these as quasi-disposable devices, something around a year-and-a-half to a two-year useful life that get broken or people just upgrade through the productivity. Edel.

Edel Ebbs

Management

The way we kind of think about it from the financial side is we look at what the ratio is of total devices activated and to net activations. And I think last quarter it was around 1.85 or somewhere around there, close to two. I think the overall cell phone industry is actually a fair bit higher than that, so I think that there is still room for us to grow and I think as Jim mentioned, new products come out and that tends to accelerate that a little bit as people get itchy to want the new device.

Paras Bhargava - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst

So it’s fair to say the average age of a BlackBerry is still greater than 1.5, Edel?

Edel Ebbs

Management

One-point-five -- I just don’t have that kind of data here. Sorry, Paras.

Paras Bhargava - BMO Capital Markets

Analyst

All right. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your last question comes from Paul Coster of JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Paul Coster - JP Morgan

Analyst

If I may, a two-part question, the two parts being completed unrelated; the first one is of our total revenue, what percentage came from out of the U.S.? And the second part of the question is Jim, you’ve got a bit cash balance. Do acquisitions figure in your growth strategy and if so, what are the criteria?

Edel Ebbs

Management

We don’t break out revenue on a quarterly basis. I can pull the number for you while Jim answers the second part of your question on what it was for the fiscal year that we ended in March, but we just don’t break out revenue international versus North America quarterly.

James L. Balsillie

Management

On the cash balance, I mean, for every person that says we are sitting on more cash than we need -- I shouldn’t say every person, but many people say we sit on more cash than we need and many bankers pitch that you need a cash horde, maybe a bigger one or a bigger whatever you want to call it for potential strategic purposes. It’s a very important and fair question; what are we going to do with our cash? We are at a point right now where we carefully invest it and we preserve it and it’s a nice amount for us for what we want to do. There’s no question we look at a lot of M&A and we do a number of tuck-unders and certainly those have complemented our strategies and we’ve disclosed those over the years, and we will continue to do that. But you can really look at every M&A thing we’ve done, it’s integrated into the technology platform or RIM to better avail this service that I tried to explain earlier. Would there be some kind of dramatic M&A? Obviously if that kind of thing was to start and materialize, we’d disclose it right way when it’s real, but your points are really fair comments. It’s a high quality problem. What do you do with cash balances? We have a really strong and high performance audit committee and finance is a big part of that. And what’s the long-term cash strategies of the company is going to be a really important thing that we owe our investors an answer to sometime in the not-too-distant future. It’s not a pressing issue right now. It’s kind of at a reasonable level right now but with positive cash flows, we’re doing a lot of CapEx in facilities and infrastructure and in growth, but the cash flows are stronger than even our CapEx in a rapid growing space. There will come a time in the not-too-distant future where we have to come, you know, if there’s not a big M&A and there’s not big CapEx, then we have to come up with a cash strategy, whether it’s buy-backs or dividends or whatever is appropriate. But that is not something that is fully thought through but it is something that’s been put on my agenda to address with the board and with the audit committee. Once we get greater clarity than that, we’ll do it. In the past, we’ve done some buy-backs and those look like those were very smart things to do with the cash to the maximum 5% you can do at the price we did them at that time, and that is certainly one of the things that stays on consideration once this becomes brought forward. I just don’t have a good answer for you right now.

Edel Ebbs

Management

I actually do have some information for you. We actually did start breaking it out on a quarterly basis in the notes to our statements, which you wouldn’t have yet but the percentage of revenue outside North America was 34.5% this quarter.

Paul Coster - JP Morgan

Analyst

Thank you.

Edel Ebbs

Management

And I think that was our last question, so in closing I would just like to remind everyone that there is a post service available at 416-640-1917, passcode 21221688 pound, or you can listen to the call which has been recorded and is available in the investor events section of our website at www.rim.com/investors. Thank you and we’ll talk to you next quarter.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the conference call for today. Thank you for participating. Please disconnect your lines.