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Q3 2014 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 11, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Halcon Resources Q3 2014 Earnings Conference Call. (Operator Instructions). I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference call, Mr. Floyd Wilson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Sir, you may begin.

Floyd Wilson

Management

Okay. Thanks, operator. Good morning, everybody. Thanks for joining. This conference call contains forward-looking statements. For a detailed description of our disclaimer, see our earnings release issued yesterday afternoon and posted on our website. We achieved record levels of production in the first half of this year and we did it again in the third quarter. 3Q production of over 43,500 barrels a day was another record, despite selling approximately 3700 boe per day in the second quarter. On a pro forma basis we grew production 8% quarter-over-quarter. In response to currently low crude prices and currently high service costs, we've decided to not employ five rigs that we had prior planned to employ next year. We'll run six rigs getting started here and see how the year unfolds. We will still grow production 15% to 20% year-over-year and we'll spend about $750 million. As I mentioned, we will remain flexible to increase or decrease that capital program for 2015. While we're substantially hedged for next year, we're in that uncomfortable space where crude prices have declined dramatically, while service costs remain at an all-time high. Of course the flip side to that is that efficiencies are at an all-time high as well. So it's not a black hole by any means, but they are out of sync. As has happened many times during my time in the business, our sales and our great partners on the service side of the industry will react accordingly to changing conditions and reach a comfortable space. As you all know, we need each other. Both of our core plays are profitable at today's prices or even lower. Our expectation is to run six rigs across our portfolio in 2015 and we will spend meaningfully less than what we had planned to spend next…

Mark Mize

Management

Yes. Thank you, Floyd. We ended the quarter with solid liquidity position of approximately $815 million. Our borrowing base was increased during Q3 to $1.05 billion from $700 million in conjunction with our regular fall re-determination. This increase was driven by positive results from the ongoing drilling program in both the Williston Basin as well as El Halcon. Production for the quarter averaged right at 43,600 barrels of oil equivalent per day which was above street estimates, as well as the midpoint of our guidance. For the full year 2014, we expect to come in towards the high end of previously published guidance of 40,000 to 42,000 boe a day which again is going to be driven by the operational results in the two core areas. On the cost side, LOE and work-over expense came in at $8.45 per boe in the third quarter which does represent about a 26% improvement compared to the same quarter of last year. After adjusting for some selected items, cash G&A expense for the quarter was $6.07 per boe which is about a 25% improvement compared to last year. Taxes other than income was $7.12 and gathering and other expenses came in at $1.86 per boe for the quarter. Cash G&A is not forecasted to come in under the low end of our $7 to $9 guidance range for 2014. All other expenditure guidance is projected to be within previously published ranges for the year. With regard to D&C, CapEx on the second-quarter call, we had mentioned we expected D&C to trend up in Q3 and then back down in the fourth quarter. This hasn't changed. We spent $322 million on D&C during the third quarter and expect D&C CapEx to decrease in the fourth. Taking into consideration the Apollo TMS financing of $150…

Floyd Wilson

Management

Thanks, Mark. Charles Cusack, our COO is on the line I know. Charles, do you have a few comments to make?

Charles Cusack

Management

Yes, I'll just address the operations and the TMS briefly. Basically, we're drilling our 9th and 10th wells right now. We continue to have drilling improvements and we're feeling very confident in the way we're drilling the wells, evidenced by our recently drilled Creek Cottage West well drilled to over 21,000 feet in 26 days. We're really getting that recipe down on that side. On the completion side we have five wells that are now flowing. We've had more of a learning curve on that side. Had a couple hiccups. We under-stimulated our first well, it came in decent rate, but it's going to be an under-performer because of being under-stimulated then we fracked into some small faults in another well, possibly two of them. We've learned you need to be near 2D seismic lines and that a 3D seismic will probably critical to the TMS going forward. Our fourth well is close to a type curve well, then our fifth well that we just brought on the Shuckrow is our best well to-date. It's still cleaning up, but we’ve a projected 24 hour rate that probably over the next few (indiscernible) that will get it to well over a thousand barrels a day, 1066 is our estimate and 800 to 1000 cubic feet a day, that would be a 1276 boe per day, including NGLs and minus the shrink. In addition, we just finished pumping the George Martins frac. That's 25 stages that all pump really well and that's the furthest well completed yet to-date in Wilkinson County, so it's a step-out well helping to help delineate the acreage. We’ve four more wells that will be coming on line over the next two months. In addition, other industry has 12 additional wells, so that's a lot of data in the next two months. And then I'll also mention we're drilling our first well over in Tangipahoa, so you're 50 miles across. We're very confident. The oil's in place. We're getting more and more consistent and we're very confident in our type curve still. And you're just going to see more and more results further evidence of that.

Floyd Wilson

Management

Thanks, Charles. So really the punch line for today's call is that we continue to execute and we hit our numbers and we'll hit them in the future. Our two core plays are going to provide all of our growth for 2015. We're taking a conservative approach at this time, we remain flexible. Be prepared to change our course if we feel it's appropriate. Operator, we're ready for questions, if there are any.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions). Our first question comes from Jason Wangler from Wunderlich Securities. Your line is open. Jason Wangler – Wunderlich Securities: Curious with the TMS with the Apollo deal, I think previously you guys have said that the next kind of tranche of their decision is coming up here kind of at the end of the year. Have you got any indication of what the plans are there and just maybe some color on that?

Floyd Wilson

Management

There is no color. It's not coming up at the end of the year. We still have funds there and as we've noted we're going to slow the drilling down and let the results from our next four wells and the industries next 12 wells kind of guide us. So we don't have any decision point at this moment. Jason Wangler – Wunderlich Securities: Okay, and then just in general there with what you talked about with kind of pulling back on the rig side, can you just maybe talk about what your contracts look like on those rigs?

Floyd Wilson

Management

We have no issues, Jason, we have no issues whatsoever with contracts on rigs. We employ the kind of rigs that we can use at El Halcon or the TMS, so we're perfectly content to slow down a bit and let results guide us over the next quarter or so.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Steve Berman from Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open. Steve Berman – Canaccord Genuity: Floyd, where do you see this six rigs deployed in 2015 at this point between the Williston and the El Halcon?

Floyd Wilson

Management

Okay, so not to get too granular but about half and half. We can move that around if we choose to but about half and half. Steve Berman – Canaccord Genuity: And then the TMS, do you think you'll still participate on the non-op side because you seem to have a decent number of non-op wells?

Floyd Wilson

Management

Yes, of course we will and we're getting some great wells and some great data that way but Steve, we're not a TMS Company. It's a development stage, development play and an early stage, we own some nice acreage in the middle of it. We've got plenty of things to do in our other areas. So we're hopeful that that will turn into a core area for us, but right now with the oil prices where they are and service costs where they are, we've elected to slow down there. Steve Berman – Canaccord Genuity: And one for Mark, relative to the 750-800 D&C guidance for next year, what do you see as total CapEx when you add in capitalized interest and G&A and leasing and seismic and all that good stuff? What's the total range looking like now?

Mark Mize

Management

A place holder in your model for right now, probably 100 million. Steve Berman – Canaccord Genuity: So add 100 to the 750 to 800?

Mark Mize

Management

Yes, that will include capitalized interest in G&A and things of that nature.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Neal Dingmann from SunTrust. Your line is open. Neal Dingmann – SunTrust Robinson Humphrey: Floyd, obviously on your Bakken and El Halcon, where you showed about the IP in the 30 day rates that continue to improve materially sequentially, just two questions there. One, between those two plays what type of paybacks are you looking at? I'm assuming the Fort Berthold, it's got to be very quick there and then secondly, can those IPs and 30 day rates continue to improve on the magnitude we just saw in the third quarter?

Floyd Wilson

Management

As far as continued improvement, I would say it's certainly feasible. We've had much fewer below average wells than in the past and we project even fewer below average wells in the future so that would drive our average upward. We're not really projecting; we're using our current plan to make our projections. Improvements would be on top of that. Now there's hardly anything maybe in the U.S. but certainly in our portfolio that compares that has as good a payout as the really large wells in the Williston Basin, but outside of that Fort Berthold area, El Halcon wells compete very nicely with other wells in the Williston Basin. So we’ve a nice balance there. A lot of inventory in all these areas but if we're only going to run six rigs, we're basically extending our inventory in these very commercial areas. Neal Dingmann – SunTrust Robinson Humphrey: And then just lastly, certainly understanding you aren't a TMS Company at this point, are there certain costs or service costs that could decline enough to bring you back to that play in the nearer term or is it just quite simply a matter of today comparing the economics that are obviously to the outstanding returns you have in the other two plays?

Floyd Wilson

Management

Well you're always about today, right? So we're comparing those returns. We have plenty of lease term in all of our areas or they are HBP'd, so we are not letting that drive us. It's really the relationship of expected cost reductions to current oil prices that has us a bit conservative. The five year strip has dropped dramatically over the last throw months or so. Costs are coming down and fewer what I call train wrecks on wells across the industry will bring costs down and then just experience will bring costs down. So if we hit our model up there or over there in the TMS and get costs down, those wells will compete with everything else we have except the best part of the Williston Basin. Now they aren't competitive today. We’ve no lease issues. We're a two core play company at this moment and we can grow for several years being a two core play company but we have high hopes and expectations for that play. Neal Dingmann – SunTrust Robinson Humphrey: Floyd, is there a certain oil price that you see if we went back to 85 or 90 that where the activity would go back up to those 11 rigs or more is it more just still a matter of the combination of the oil price with the service cost?

Floyd Wilson

Management

It's a combination of oil price and service cost and certainly we would have a better feeling about everything with a bit higher oil prices, but we can't plan for that and we wouldn't change our program overnight. If we made some changes in the future it would be after a hard look at expected cash flows and benefits from spending more money. Actually I believe that a company that can spend 750 and grow 15% or 20% is in a class by itself.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from James Spicer from Wells Fargo. Your line is open. James Spicer – Wells Fargo: Given the slowing pace of drilling in the TMS for 2015, how long is the initial 150 million funding from Apollo going to last or where does that take you through and can you comment on how much incremental capital you guys are putting in there next year?

Floyd Wilson

Management

Very little capital is going in there next year. As I said we’re going to take the first quarter and review and we will take all of our own flow backs and all of the industries flow backs and decide and then review where prices have gone after this many months and take a hard look. We still have money, we don't report those numbers exactly, but we still have funds available from the JV and we have a great partner there. So we will work cooperatively there and try to achieve a good result for all of us. James Spicer – Wells Fargo: Okay. And then it looked like your natural gas price differentials widen out meaningfully during the quarter, just wondering if you could comment around that.

Floyd Wilson

Management

Mark, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it was 100% driven by additional gas capture in the Williston Basin and as you know Williston Basin gas differentials are higher than most areas of the country. Is that fair Mark or wrong?

Mark Mize

Management

Yes. That's fair Floyd. We did drop down to about – for Q3 overall company we dropped down to about 88% and you are accurate, Floyd that was mainly driven up in the Bakken area. James Spicer – Wells Fargo: So when we think about next year, we should think about the differentials staying at similar levels since you're capturing more of that gas?

Floyd Wilson

Management

Well the differences aren't driven by just us. It's driven by supply and demand and transportation costs, so it's hard to say. We do have a long history up there of achieving between 80% and 85% and 92% or so of NYMEX and Mark said we were at 88% this quarter, so you've got to get this flaring in hand and get it reduced to zero and all of us up there are working on that really hard and we're all making great strides. The differential increases but there is less money being burned in flare stacks and basically thrown away. So on a cash basis we're making more money there than we did before but the price for that commodity is less.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ron Mills from Johnson Rice. Your line is open. Ron Mills – Johnson Rice: Floyd, question just on the Bakken, if you look at your three rigs are you going to concentrate those rigs down on the reservation or given what some of these recent results in Williams County, you think you'll be moving between the two and then in Williams, how do you break down your acreage? It's a pretty big position going from Northwest to Southeast and I think you've had some better results in Southeast, so how do you look at your drilling plans up there?

Floyd Wilson

Management

We have all that laid out and our projections for this year are dependent on what we have laid out but we can move it around. I won't say it's half and half but it's something about like that. We've got a large area of Williams County. We basically have several type curves up there and as you pointed out the Southeast part of our acreage holdings are just as good as the things to the South on the Indian reservation and then it moves outward from a basically these are round numbers of 700,000 barrel type curve to 6 to 5 to 4 and the 400,000-barrel type curves are less attractive and we have no plan on drilling any of those any time in the next couple of years unless prices are quite a bit higher but we just don't have to. It's all HBP'd, so I don't know if that's responsive but we haven't like put a map out and said well this is the good part and this is the medium part and this is the part that we need higher prices, but we've got plenty of inventory for a well to rotate along and the important thing to note about it up there it's a bit more shallow so far, the less expensive frac jobs are working great and we can complete a well up there for a couple million dollars less than down to the south. Ron Mills – Johnson Rice: And does that also take into account the Southeast part of Williams County, it still does cost $1 million to $2 million less?

Floyd Wilson

Management

Yes. Ron Mills – Johnson Rice: Okay and then I think Williams County is for the most part HBP'd. How does your lease status on the reservation?

Floyd Wilson

Management

We're substantially HBP'd everywhere. We're in pad drilling. We're HBP'd, there might be a few acres way up to the Northwest we just don't care about, but I think most of those are either already gone or HBP'd anyway. Substantially we're HBP'd there. Ron Mills – Johnson Rice: And then similar question in El Halcon, I think you're drilling more lease capture wells there albeit on a position that has been derisked by you and others. How does your lease status look in El Halcon to lead to potential pad development at some point?

Floyd Wilson

Management

We think we can be in full pad development within two years, 2 to 3 rigs, we'll hold all the acreage within 18 months or so maybe a little less, maybe a little bit more. We have some areas with culture there and it takes more planning and sometimes you just have to kind of gut up and drill more wells off of one pad. So you stay out of the cultures way as best as you can. For instance on the Texas A&M campus. We would hate to interrupt another football game or something. Ron Mills – Johnson Rice: And then I think Charles mentioned in addition to your remaining wells to bring online in the TMS there were 12 industry wells coming online. Are those industry wells that you have an interest in or just industry wells that are expected to commence production?

Floyd Wilson

Management

Industry wells, I believe we’ve an interest in half of them, but that's on my part. We're in such a good data sharing mode with the other fine operators in that play that at this moment to me, a result whether or not we have an interest is just as important because it is an early stage play and if there has only being, I don’t know, 50 wells drilled and kind of the modern TMS days and probably no more than 30 of those have even been flowed yet or 35, I don't know, but it's just so early. So we've got a great group of operators there that are sharing information. No one is competing for acreage and so it's working out really well. So to me it doesn't really matter if we have an interest or not. Ron Mills – Johnson Rice: And do you know when do you stop drilling or when you take the two rigs out once you get these 10 wells done, about how much of that initial HK TMS capital will have been spent?

Floyd Wilson

Management

There will still be some left over. I don't have an exact number for that. Of course when we stop drilling we still have wells to frac and facilities to put on and all that kind of stuff and there's plenty of money for all of that. What's important to us is making sure that we're making progress on cost in the play and on understanding obstacles as Charles was saying, faults and things of that nature, underlying Tuscaloosa Marine Sands that are water bearing sometimes, sometimes they are close to the Tuscaloosa marine shale base and so we're trying to figure all that stuff out. This is so like every other play that we've been in. It's just these wells are a little bit more money but following the same pattern. Drill days are going down. People are understanding where to put the laterals and where not to. People are thinking really hard about obstacles and there's some natural fracturing in this play that can help or can hurt at times so it's really an exciting thing to be in such a large oil reservoir and have such a big acreage position and not have to do anything about it any time soon. Most of our leases are three plus two, so we have plenty of – and they are very inexpensive to buy the extra two, so hardly any money there. So we're really in a great position to ease back, watch prices, watch cost, review data and then set a course.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Sean Sneeden from Oppenheimer. Your line is open. Sean Sneeden – Oppenheimer: Mark or Floyd, as you think about next year's budget, how comfortable are you guys outspending cash flows here to achieve production growth? For instance is there a minimum amount of liquidity that you want to maintain as you exit next year or maybe can you talk about how you're thinking about that?

Floyd Wilson

Management

I'll let Mark speak in specifics if he has any specifics, but we're very liquid right now and the small outspend that you might project is well in hand at this time. We're never comfortable with outspending but these shale plays require that by everybody in the industry, not just us and we've decided to cut back on the outspend dramatically for next year and of course we cut back on projected EBITDA as well. So we're trying to keep all that in mind and run a responsible program but still has a nice growth component. So Mark anything to add to that?

Mark Mize

Management

No, I would just simply say that while there is going to be an outspend next year we've obviously dialed back spending and we're looking to reduce that and it will be meaningfully less of an outspend than in prior years and with liquidity that we have on the balance sheet, the company is set up well to execute and also even further suited to do it when you take the hedge position into consideration. Sean Sneeden – Oppenheimer: And then when you kind of think about obviously you guys have been on the trajectory in terms of deleveraging the balance sheet just given all the production growth, has the current commodity price environment or current plans changed your thought process in terms of where you'd like to get your leverage profile to?

Floyd Wilson

Management

Our overriding plan and instinct has been to reduce leverage. There is only few ways to do that. The old fashion way, you grow production and revenue so that's our basic idea here. Now we're in a spot where even though we're hedged prices are down and costs are still high and perhaps even rising at times. So we're just, we just have to respond to that in a responsible way and we think we're doing that. Sean Sneeden – Oppenheimer: I guess just last one for me Floyd or maybe even Charles. Can you remind me what your ballpark PDP declines are right now?

Floyd Wilson

Management

Charles, do you have that in mind?

Charles Cusack

Management

I don't.

Floyd Wilson

Management

Look, it's probably about 30% but I don't really have that number on the tip of my tongue.

Charles Cusack

Management

That's probably a good estimate.

Floyd Wilson

Management

Keep in mind that a 20% growth for next year, you'll have to replace that 30% and then grow net-net another 20 and we think we can do that with a relatively small budget.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jeff Robertson from Barclays. Your line is open. Jeff Robertson – Barclays: Floyd, can you talk at all yet about how some of that outperformance you've seen in the Bakken and El Halcon would reflect on year-end reserves and how all that got incorporated into the borrowing base increase for the fall?

Floyd Wilson

Management

Yes, and Mark please add in if there's something, but as you may remember we had a very substantial borrowing base increase at the last redetermination this fall, it went from 700 to 1.50 billion and that's basically a consortium of 15 or 20 banks with outside engineers determining that. So that's got to be a signal to what we're going to have in terms of reserve growth for 2014. We've had a great year and it's just we're going to have a really good year in terms of reserve growth and cost reductions and production growth. In terms of what goes on there won't be a redetermination until next spring and I don't know anything about that at this moment, do you Mark?

Mark Mize

Management

No, we'll see what it holds but we obviously expect and continue to see an increase in the borrowing base. It's the cheapest form of capital we have. So we'll continue to work with the commercial banks to grow as we can. Jeff Robertson – Barclays: And Mark were there any changes in the pricing on the credit facility?

Mark Mize

Management

No, there were no changes on the pricing grid.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen that does conclude our question and answer session for today's call. I would now like to turn the call back over to Floyd Wilson for any closing remarks.

Floyd Wilson

Management

Well I have no remarks except to say if we forgot something or weren't responsive just give us a call. We're drilling ahead as we always do and we're going to have a great year this year and we're projecting a really good year next. Thanks for dialing in.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program and you may all disconnect. Everyone have a wonderful day.