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Banner Corporation (BANR)

Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, Jul 26, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to the Banner Corporation’s Second Quarter 2018 Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mark Grescovich, President and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thank you, Denise and good morning everyone. I would also like to welcome you to the second quarter 2018 earnings call for Banner Corporation. Joining me on the call today is Rick Barton, our Chief Credit Officer; Peter Conner, our Chief Financial Officer and Albert Marshall, the Secretary of the Corporation. Albert, would you please read our forward-looking safe harbor statement?

Albert Marshall

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning. Our presentation today discusses Banner’s business outlook and will include forward-looking statements. Those statements include descriptions of management’s plans, objectives or goals for future operations, products or services, forecast of financial or other performance measures and statements about Banner’s general outlook for economic and other conditions as well as statements concerning the merger announcement with Skagit Bancorp, Inc. We also may make other forward-looking statements in the question-and-answer period following management’s discussion. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties and actual results may differ materially from those discussed today. Information on the risk factors that could cause actual results to differ are available from the press releases that were released yesterday and a recently filed Form 10-Q for the year ended March 31, 2018. Forward-looking statements are effective only as of the date they are made and Banner assumes no obligation to update information concerning its expectations. Thank you, Mark.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thank you, Al. As announced, Banner Corporation reported a net profit available to common shareholders of $32.4 million or $1 per diluted share for the quarter ended June 30 2018. This compared to a net profit to common shareholders of $0.89 per share for the first quarter of 2018 and $0.77 per share in the second quarter of 2017. Excluding the impact of merger and acquisition expenses, gains and losses on the sale of securities and changes in fair value of financial instruments, earnings increased 24% of $32.2 million for the second quarter of 2018 from $25.9 million in the second quarter of 2017. Because of the hard work of our employees throughout the company, we are successfully executing on our strategies and priorities to deliver sustainable profitability and revenue growth to Banner. Our core operating performance continued to reflect the success of our proven client acquisition strategies, which are producing strong core revenue. We are benefiting from the successful integration of our acquisitions, which has had a dramatic impact on the scale and reach of the company and are providing a great opportunity for revenue growth. Our second quarter 2018 performance clearly demonstrates that our strategic plan is effective and we continue building shareholder value. Second quarter 2018 core revenue was $126 million, an increase of 4% compared to the second quarter of 2017. We benefited from a larger and improved earning asset mix, a net interest margin that remained above 4% and good deposit fee revenue. Overall, this resulted in a return on average assets of 1.25% for the second quarter of 2018. Once again, our performance this quarter reflects continued execution on our super community bank strategy that is growing new client relationships, adding to our core funding position by growing core deposits and promoting client loyalty…

Rick Barton

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thanks Mark. As shown in our second quarter press release and noted earlier by Mark, certain aspects of Banner’s credit metrics showed further improvement during the quarter. This improvement was driven by the successful resolution of several commercial and agricultural problem loans. Bottom line, Banner’s credit metrics remained very well positioned to deal with the next credit cycle and/or the portfolio impacts of tariff increases on international trade. My brief remarks this morning as usual will highlight the continuing moderate risk profile of the company’s loan portfolio. Delinquent loans decreased 27 basis points from the linked quarter to 0.29% of total loans and compares to delinquencies of 0.44% 1 year ago. This pattern of change is normal when total delinquent loans are at their current low level. During the just completed quarter, the improvement was magnified by the problem loan resolutions just mentioned. The company’s level of adversely classified assets decreased 14% during the quarter, reflecting problem loan resolution, positive economic activity in our footprint and continuing strong borrower performance. Non-performing assets decreased 7 basis points from the linked quarter to 0.16% of total assets. This metric at June 30, 2017 was 0.24%. Non-performing assets were split between non-performing loans of $15 million and REO and other assets of $1 million. Not reflected in these totals are the remaining non-performing loans of $10 million acquired from Siuslaw and AmericanWest banks, which are not reportable under purchase accounting rules. If we were to include the acquired non-performing loans in our non-performing asset totals, the ratio of non-performing assets to total assets would still be a modest 26 basis points. For the quarter, the company recorded net loan charge-offs of $332,000. Gross charge-offs for the quarter were $1.2 million. We still consider charge-offs at this level to be low when compared to…

Peter Conner

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thank you, Rick. As discussed previously and as announced in our earnings release, we reported net income of $32.4 million or $1 per share for the second quarter, up from $28.8 million or $0.89 per share in the prior quarter. $0.11 per share increase from the prior quarter was due to the following items. Net interest income increased 18% due to a 4 basis point increase in net margins combined with the $330 million increase in average earning assets. Non-interest income was flat to the prior quarter as the decline in the gain on securities fair value in the first quarter, were offset by gains on the sale of former bank properties acquired through acquisitions in the second quarter along with increased deposit fee income. Non-interest expense increased $0.04 due to increases in personnel and loan production related expenses. Income tax expense increased $0.03 per share. Turning to the balance sheet, ending assets increased $62 million from the end of the first quarter to $10.4 billion at the end of the second quarter as a result of growth in held for portfolio loans, partially offset from a decline in loans held for sale at the end of the second quarter. The ending investment portfolio balances including interest bearing deposits remained flat to the prior quarter end as the entirety of bank’s de-leveraging was completed by the end of the first quarter. Total loans increased $66 million from the prior quarter end as a result of $129 million in growth in held for portfolio loans, partially offset by a $63 million decline in held for sale loans due to sales of multi-family loans in the month of June. Growth in the held for portfolio loans was diversified across commercial real estate, C&I, construction, agriculture, first lien mortgage and consumer loan types.…

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thank you, Rick and Peter for your remarks. That concludes our prepared remarks and Denise we will now open the call and welcome questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. [Operator Instructions] And your first question today will be from Jeff Rulis of D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thanks. Good morning.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Good morning, Jeff.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

I guess a couple of questions, well pertaining to the margin and you guys keep the deposit costs pretty well in check relative to peers. I guess the first part of that is kind of what you are seeing in the market and do you think you have continued success keeping those down and then maybe just the second question on the margin outlook from here? Thanks.

Peter Conner

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Sure, Jeff. This is Peter. So in terms of your first question on deposit costs as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, a good portion of the increase in our cost of deposits in the second quarter was due to the fact that we shifted some of our typical wholesale funding into brokered CDs this quarter instead of using the FHLB. The FHLB is running about 20 basis points higher than brokered CDs and we also get the benefit of extending our duration of it by going out to 6 and 12 months on the brokered CD curve. So they cost a 2 basis point increase in our cost of deposits in the second quarter. That being said, we did see some modest increase in the remaining deposit portfolio principally in the money market and savings account categories. We are seeing the green sheets of increased deposit competition and it continued to increase from the first quarter or the second quarter and we continue to be very tactical about responding to who we consider true bank competitors and focus on retaining our existing deposits will continue to grow through our talent acquisition model and maintaining our non-interest bearing core deposit base.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

And the thoughts on margin, I guess going forward kind of what you saw this quarter is the outlook?

Peter Conner

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Yes, the growth in margin this quarter was caused and driven by substantial increase in our loan yields, our contractual loan yields. And as we have discussed previously, our loan portfolio mix is 30% floating tied to prime or LIBOR 30% tied to an adjustable rate between 3 months and 5 years and the remaining portfolio 40% is fixed and so we are benefiting from the change in Fed Funds and to a lesser extent the increase in the 5 and 10-year part of the yield curve over the last 6 months. And so our loan portfolio continues to re-price faster than our cost of deposits as we go forward into the third quarter we typically experienced an increase in our core deposit base, so we would anticipate somewhat less reliance on our wholesale funding sources in the third quarter than we did in the second quarter which will have some positive tailwinds to our margin. So that being said, we did experience an increase in our core margin excluding loan accretion in the second quarter. We would anticipate that level of margin would be – it would continue at the current pace from the second quarter into the third quarter, but we wouldn’t anticipate any substantial continuing improvement in the margin as the cost of deposit will continue to move up and we continue to see continued pressure in the commercial loan market for CRE loans especially in terms of pricing.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thanks Peter. And maybe just two quick ones on the Skagit deal, I guess within the Q4 closing is that look like kind of an early quarter within – in the quarter and then do you have a preliminary goodwill estimate?

Rick Barton

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Yes. So we would anticipate closing towards the middle or end of the fourth quarter. Obviously, it’s subject to regulatory approvals, but our anticipation would be the mid to the end of the fourth quarter. We don’t have an exact number for you just on goodwill. I think you can what that number would be through the disclosures on the marks in the loan book in the core deposit intangible. We did announce obviously the dilution of 3% day 1 in terms of EPS and 4% accretion in the first full year of the acquisition.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Got it. Thank you.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thanks Jeff.

Operator

Operator

The question will be from Tyler Stafford at Stephens Inc. Please go ahead.

Gordon McGuire

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead

Hi guys, this is actually Gordon McGuire on for Tyler this morning. Good morning.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead

Good morning Gordon.

Gordon McGuire

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead

So I just wanted to start on the loan growth definitely an improvement from the first quarter, but year-to-date it’s still coming in the low I think you had mentioned a high single-digit expectation, can you discuss what you are seeing – are you seeing accelerated payoffs that are impacting the growth and do you still think you can achieve high single-digits for the year.

Rick Barton

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead

Gordon, this is Rick Barton. We are calling in the first year – our first quarter of the year, we had some very heavy payoffs in the CRE portfolio which viewed its loan growth in that quarter. I think that we are seeing in the second quarter a pickup in activity, the loan payoffs were down from what they were in the first quarter. And in looking at our pipelines whether they would be commercial, C&I pipelines or commercial real estate pipelines they are fairly full and we look forward to being able to generate loan growth in the mid to high single-digit range.

Gordon McGuire

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead

Thank you. And just turning to Skagit, do you have an anticipated conversion date in mind right now and how should we be thinking about the timing of the cost saves?

Peter Conner

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead

Yes. This is peter, so right now we are targeting the first quarter of 2019 likely in February, in terms of the cost saves we would anticipate about approximately we would see about 25% to 30% in the first quarter with the remaining cost saves – the first quarter of the closing with the remaining of the cost saves achieved in the first two quarters of ‘19. So fully saved, in other words all the costs will be phased in by the second quarter of 2019.

Gordon McGuire

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead

Okay, thank you. And then did the discussions with Skagit impact your ability to buyback stock in 2Q and how should we be thinking about capital distribution for the remainder of the year?

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead

Yes. Gordon this is Mark, clearly the negotiations or conversations we had would put us in blackout period, so that clearly since we don’t – didn’t have a program in place we would have restricted the amount of repurchase activity we can do. I think I will ask Peter to comment on capital deployment going forward.

Peter Conner

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead

Yes. As we have guided to you previously we are targeting a mid 9 TCE ratio and we anticipate with the acquisition of Skagit will be right in that range at the end of this year. So we don’t foresee a need to do any further capital to fund and obviously between now and year end as Skagit’s absorb some of that remaining excess capital. Obviously going forward into ‘19 we will continue to evaluate the deployment of our excess capital over and above our 40% shareholder payout ratio in the form of again either special dividends or share repurchases in ‘18.

Gordon McGuire

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead

Thank you. That’s all my questions.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Stephens Inc. Please go ahead

Thanks, Gordon.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question will come from Tim Coffey of FIG Partners. Please go ahead.

Tim Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Great. Thank you. Good morning, everybody.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Good morning, Tim.

Tim Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Mark, I had a question for you around kind of the M&A strategy going forward, obviously it’s been a while since you completed a deal and now we are with Skagit and I am wondering is this the start kind of are you in the mood or in the frame of mind to start looking at more and more M&A deals now?

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Yes, Tim, thank you for the question. I don’t think our strategy has changed in particular from where it’s been, recognizing that our stock price was not in a position to aggressively bid on auction transactions the types of deals that we have done historically that added economic benefit to our shareholders really resulted in negotiated transactions which would provide additional density to our footprint and a strong core deposit franchise. So, Skagit fits right in that wheelhouse. As we have said before, crossing the $10 billion threshold, we needed to augment our organic growth with some modest acquisitions and Skagit certainly hits every single one of those triggers that we have been discussing over the last several quarters, which is a strong core deposit franchise, a very strong franchise being 60 years old and providing significant density for us specifically in the northbound region of the Puget Sound. So it hit every one of those categories and the economics are clearly accretive to the organization as well. So looking forward into the future, our strategy has not changed. It will look very similar to what we have been looking for in the past.

Tim Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Okay. And then you sold the Utah operations, but you still have some other footings that are outside kind of your core markets, have you thought about trimming those back or adding to them or is it still kind of you are still evaluating?

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

I think, Tim if you look at some of the things that are outside the core footprint, they are de minimis and there really are associated with our client base, it’s actually in our footprint or relationships that we have. So I would characterize those footings as de minimis to the overall organization. It’s certainly not going to be a focus going forward, but there is no reason to jettison them from the balance sheet.

Tim Coffey

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Okay. Alright, well thank you. Those are my questions.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · FIG Partners. Please go ahead

Thanks, Tim.

Operator

Operator

The next question will be from Matthew Clark of Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Hi, good morning.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Good morning, Matthew.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Wondered if this deal impacts your longer term efficiency ratio target range of 62% to 65% and when you think you might be able to achieve that if not do a little better?

Peter Conner

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Yes, Matthew, this is Peter. So, we continue to maintain our guidance of targeting a low 60% range in efficiency ratio. This acquisition will help accelerate our process in achieving that target. The company as we said before doesn’t rely on a low efficiency ratio to improve its ROA and bring that ROA target up towards the top quartile of our peer banks over time, because of the fee income we generated in our deposit business and mortgage businesses.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Let me just add to that, Matthew, once again, there is two sides to that, that ratio, the revenue side and one of the issues that we have indicated in the past, our primary goals are to protect our net interest margin adding what is 96% of other deposit bases core of the roughly $800 million of deposits that being core, it’s going to go a long way for us to protect our net interest margin going forward, which clearly will help the revenue.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Okay, great. And then on the net interest margin and the core margin excluding purchase accounting accretion that 433, I guess can you quantify any – that is how much in loan fees might have been in there that may move around or be lumpy tied to the construction business from first to second?

Rick Barton

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Yes. We – so if we talk just about the loan yield by itself not the margins 6 basis points of the increase in the loan yields between Q1 and Q2 were related to interest recoveries on loan workout related activities. And so that was a bit higher than we normally experienced and so I would characterize that as something that’s we wouldn’t typically expect it will occur every quarter. Regarding your question on the construction side, we actually this quarter the loan growth and the loan production was much more diversified across all of our loan categories including construction than it was in the first quarter where we had a bit more waiting towards construction production which influenced the amount of deferred fee income that was going into the loan yield this quarter. There was less of an impact overall on deferred fee income component from construction loans because of the diversification of our production in the second quarter. So I would characterize it as a run rate in the second quarter nothing unusual.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Okay, great. And then last one from me just wondered if you have any interest in acquiring branches with deposits, should they come up for sale?

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Matthew, this is Mark. Obviously that would fit nicely with our strategy of growing core deposits as long as those branches or whatever divestiture that was occurring within a different organization provided density for our operation in which we could leverage it.

Matthew Clark

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

And the next question will be from Jackie Bohlen of KBW. Please go ahead.

Jackie Bohlen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Hi, good morning.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Good morning Jackie.

Jackie Bohlen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Mark just as a follow-up kind of on the construction, has the velocity of the portfolio changed at all between the second quarter and the first quarter and is that impacting the loan yields at all?

Rick Barton

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Jackie, this is Rick Barton. The velocity is very consistent between the two quarters both in terms of the pace of production and the payoff rate of homes is there completed. It will continue to be a little bit lumpy when you look at the commercial side and you see some of the larger projects be completed and be refinanced into a permanent status so there will be that phenomenon from time to time as go forward with that portion of the portfolio.

Jackie Bohlen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay. And just my last one that’s everything I have has been asking after the impart, but Rick just in terms of the various markets that you are operating in, are you seeing any pockets of weakness in any portfolios not maybe your portfolios that just what you are lending into and may it’s reduced your appetite for certain markets or certain categories?

Rick Barton

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Probably, the two that come to mind immediately are the luxury segment at the multifamily market. We are seeing a slowdown of not a stock and the growth of rents, particularly in Portland and in some pockets of Seattle and we are seeing rental concessions being offered in those markets, so that’s always a sign that you want to be cautious about adding additional exposures. And there are some categories of retail that we continued to look at very closely before we consider adding loans to the portfolio.

Jackie Bohlen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

And is the retail I am guessing is just broadly across your footprint?

Rick Barton

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Yes, that’s correct. And I might add also that healthcare is another segment that we pay close attention to in adding exposure to the portfolio.

Jackie Bohlen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

And is that a new attention that you are paying or is it consistent from the past?

Rick Barton

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

It’s consistent with past, we have had eye on that for quite some time.

Jackie Bohlen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead

Thanks Jackie.

Operator

Operator

And the next question will be from Don Worthington of Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Don Worthington

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Thank you. Good morning everyone.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Good morning Don.

Don Worthington

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

In terms of mortgage banking operations with your outlook there maybe on the multifamily sales and just in general mortgage banking revenue?

Peter Conner

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Yes. Don, this is Peter. So in the second quarter we actually saw a substantial increase in mortgage loan production was actually up 27% in the first quarter and that’s typical as we go into second quarter with the seasonal increases we expect. We continued to do very well in the purchase volume despite follow-up in refi volume. Our production numbers continue to remain solid. The one change that we saw between the first and second quarters that we portfolio at a larger percentage of the mortgage production onto the balance sheet this quarter, so we actually sold about the same total line of loans between Q1 and Q2. However we increased the total production and that difference went on to balance sheet. In terms of a gain on sale we continue to see no diminishment in the gain on sale we are getting on loans that are being sold. On the residential mortgage side that continues to remain robust. The question on multifamily, we did see a bit of falloff on both production and gain on sale in the multifamily business in the second quarter. However, on a year-to-date basis and in terms of our expectations for the full year, we still expect that business to generate between $300 million and $350 million a year in production with net gain on sales between 80 basis points and 90 basis points. So we haven’t changed our outlook on that business we just – we did see a better slowdown relative to the first quarter in terms of production, but no change for our expectation on a full year basis for that business.

Don Worthington

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Okay, great. Thank you. And then just curious in terms of how the Southern California operation is performing, say relative to your other markets in terms of loan growth and profitability?

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Yes. It’s been very consistent. We have between $700 million and $800 million in both loan and deposit balances in the Southern California franchise. And as we have said earlier they continued to respond well to the Banner product set, they were all from American West locations. And so when you look at the deposit growth on their baselines have actually been at the same or better than legacy Banner markets in terms of account acquisition and deposit growth. And we see very consistent level of loan growth that was operations with the rest of the organization. So, it can just be very vibrant time economy. We have got a great banking team down there. We are very happy with it.

Don Worthington

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Okay, great. Thank you.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Thanks, Don.

Operator

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude the question-and-answer session. I would like to hand the conference back over to Mark Grescovich for his closing remarks.

Mark Grescovich

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead

Thanks, Denise. As I stated, we are very pleased with our solid second quarter 2018 performance and see it as evidence that we are making substantial and sustainable progress on our disciplined strategic plan to build shareholder value by executing on our super community bank model by growing market share, strengthening our deposit franchise, improving our core operating performance, maintaining a moderate risk profile and prudently deploying excess capital. I would like to thank all my colleagues for driving this solid performance for our company. Thank you for your interest in Banner and for joining our call today. We look forward to reporting our results to you again next quarter. Have a great day everyone.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, the conference has concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.