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Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Corporation (BAH)

Q1 2021 Earnings Call· Fri, Jul 31, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Booz Allen Hamilton’s Earnings Call covering First Quarter Results for Fiscal Year 2021. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instruction] I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Will Yates [ph]. Thank you. Please go ahead, sir.

Will Yates

Management

Thank you. Good morning and thank you for joining us for Booz Allen’s first quarter 2021 earnings announcement. We hope you have had an opportunity to read the press release that we issued earlier this morning. We have also provided presentation slides on our website and are now on Slide 2. I am Will Yates, Interim Head of Investor Relations. And with me to talk about our business and financial results are Horacio Rozanski, our President and Chief Executive Officer and Lloyd Howell, Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. As shown on the disclaimer on Slide 3, please keep in mind that some of the items we will discuss this morning will include statements that maybe considered forward-looking and therefore are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties, which may cause our actual results in future periods to differ materially from forecasted results. Those risks and uncertainties include among other things, general economic conditions, the availability of government funding for our company’s services and other factors discussed in today’s earnings release and set forth under the forward-looking statements disclaimer, included in our first quarter fiscal 2021 earnings release and in our SEC filings. We caution you not to place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements that we may make today and remind you that we assume no obligation to update or revise the information discussed on this call. During today’s call, we will also discuss some non-GAAP financial measures and other metrics which we believe provide useful information for investors. We include an explanation of adjustments and other reconciliations of our non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures in our first quarter fiscal year 2021 slides. It’s now my pleasure to turn the call over to our CEO, Horacio Rozanski. We are now on Slide 5.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

Thank you, Will and welcome to the earnings calls. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us. I would like to start this morning in a somewhat unconventional way, but one that is very much in keeping with our culture at Booz Allen. At the start of every leadership meeting, we usually take a moment to focus on an aspect of our purpose and values. And today, we would like to do the same here. Booz Allen’s purpose is to empower people to change the world, to empower people to change the world. And to us, it’s not a guideline it’s a statement that guides our thinking and our actions. In recent weeks, prompted by the horrific killings of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor and Ahmaud Arbery, there has been a reckoning in our country about deep seated racial inequity and a long overdue acknowledgement of the pain felt in the Black community. Inside our firm, we have encouraged open, direct and at times, very difficult conversations about racism and injustice. Thousands of us have participated in the virtual hands, many more joint team meetings and listening sessions and communicated with us through e-mails and one-on-one discussions with me and other senior leaders. Our colleagues have offered deeply personal stories, ideas, feedback, calls for action and a real passion for change. At a personal level, I have learned and I have grown through each interaction. I am deeply grateful for the honesty and the trust that people have extended to me. And as the leader of this firm, I am committed to doing more, because when at Booz Allen, we say that black lives matter, we are not making a political statement, we are making a statement about our values. In early June, our firm committed publicly to taking action along six…

Lloyd Howell

Management

Thanks, Horacio. The past few months have been challenging for our country and our firm. July 18th marked 32 years since the day I joined Booz Allen. When I say this firm is my family, I mean it. And just like with all families, sometimes difficult conversations are needed. This is one of those times. I am proud to be part of one of the most diverse leadership teams in Corporate America today. Our Board of Directors is also much more diverse than most. This is clearly a firm that cares about people and about diversity and inclusion. But it is also clear that we have work to do inside Booz Allen and throughout society. Our race and social equity agenda acknowledges that. It says that to be a force for change in the world we must start by ensuring that every person at our firm feels empowered that those who have been more marginalized in the past know they have a voice, a seat at the table and an opportunity to thrive. I have experienced this firm as a place of opportunity and I believe that it can be a force for good in the world. That’s what we are doing here all those years ago, called me back after a short stint on Wall Street and that’s kept me at our firm since. Furthermore, this is an issue all of our stakeholders care about, from employees and clients, through strategic partners and investors. I look forward to the progress we can make together and to continuing the journey with you, Horacio, and the rest of my colleagues.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

Thank you, Lloyd. I couldn’t agree more and thanks again for your leadership. Lloyd and I felt strongly that we needed to begin our earnings call on this topic, because the outstanding performance that we discuss with you, our analysts and our investors year after year rests on the foundation of our people, our purpose and our passion. Let’s turn now to set business performance. As you saw in the press release, we have another excellent first quarter. The business is operating well and we continue to support our clients, invest in our people, and manage through the complexity of the COVID-19 pandemic. Despite all the things that are different and more challenging than in a typical year, our team has delivered another strong start. Our people continue to demonstrate their value to clients, missions and this institution in these truly unprecedented times. It is my highest priority shared by every member of the board and the leadership team to make them feel supported and to endeavor to keep them safe, as they do their critical work. Three months into the fiscal year, our financial results aligned with our expectations for the full year. Across all the key metrics, we are pleased with our performance. You will recall from our May earnings call that we forecast a strong first half and a more uncertain second half. At this point, the unknowns in the back half of the year remain. First, we do not know how the pandemic will progress or affect our people, clients and business over the full fiscal year. Second, it is still too early to tell how the federal appropriations process will play out this fall. And third, it is unclear what budget related impact November’s election may have. Despite these unknowns, we are affirming our guidance…

Lloyd Howell

Management

Thanks, Horacio. I am tremendously proud not only of our performance in the first quarter, but also of the dedication and determination exhibited by our people. Their commitment to our firm, their colleagues and our clients’ mission is unwavering. They have risen to the challenge of operating in an unprecedented environment and our very strong start to fiscal year 2021 gives us confidence that we can meet our goals for the full year. We are now in the final year of our 3-year investment thesis and remain committed to maximizing shareholder value in both the near and long-term. Our first quarter results maintained our consistent record of strong financial performance. Additionally, we continued to grow our headcount and had a record first quarter book-to-bill positioning us well for the full year. We continue to invest in our people, capabilities and technology, preparing Booz Allen for fiscal year 2022 and beyond. And we have the balance sheet strength to take advantage of potential future market volatility, while augmenting our operating performance with opportunistic capital deployment. I will now cover our first quarter results. Please turn to Slide 6. Starting at the top line, revenue and revenue excluding billable expenses, increased 7.2% and 10.5% respectively compared to the same quarter last year. Growth continues to be fueled by strong demand for our services and solutions, particularly in our defense and civil businesses and an increase in headcount to meet that demand. It also reflects our success first in transitioning most of our work to remote delivery and now where required and a portion of it back on to Booz Allen or client site. Revenue growth this quarter was impacted by lower than typical billable expenses, primarily due to COVID-19. We anticipate continued volatility in billable expenses, because the timing and magnitude of…

Will Yates

Management

Thank you, Lloyd. Operator, please open the lines?

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. [Operator Instructions] I show our first question comes from Sheila Kahyaoglu from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Sheila Kahyaoglu

Analyst

Hi, good morning, everyone and thank you. Horacio or Lloyd, I know it’s only been 2 months since your last earnings call, but I just wanted to touch upon how you are seeing the government reacts at COVID in this Phase 2, which seems as you had mentioned will go on for some time, whether it’s their thought process on the demand environment and how that’s changing or how to operate in a more virtual environment and the opportunities for you of course?

Horacio Rozanski

Management

Sheila, good morning. It’s Horacio. Why don’t I start and I am sure Lloyd will want to add. Let me first acknowledge the hardships that the pandemic is causing on people, on our clients really in the entire country. I have been in discussions with several senior clients and I have been impressed by how thoughtful and how focused they are. They are thinking about the total force meaning their people and our people together and we are working in partnership through the safe return process. Our goals as you know are to protect the health and safety of our people, to serve our clients and to maintain our financial strength and resilience and thanks to all of these combined efforts by the government and by Booz Allen. We are operating at pre-pandemic levels, essentially. You look at the demand environment it continues to be very strong. You saw it in our book-to-bill. We have a very healthy pipeline. Our clients – we don’t see in some pockets things might be moving to the right a little bit, but by and large, the demand environment continues to be very strong and clients are if anything any even more focused when bringing technology to bear, to tackle these issues, they have moved to telework, just like we have and we are talking about remote delivery for the long runs. And this has also unearthed some needs in their networks, in their systems for cybersecurity, for cloud, for a number of things. So, all-in-all, I think we are going to continue to see this kind of focus and this kind of moving going forward.

Lloyd Howell

Management

Good morning, Sheila. I would just add a couple of more points. On the demand side, we have seen about $20 million in new contract awards and mods to existing contracts that are COVID-related. We have got about $30 million in COVID-related opportunities that we are pursuing. As you heard in our prepared remarks on the recruiting front, albeit the volume lower than we had hoped going into the pandemic, we are winning. We are winning the war in talent. We are able to source, recruit and onboard and deploy our people and I think we are getting better and better at that. The payment offices are operating well. They are paying on invoices. So, I think the government has responded well through the pandemic and we have kept pace with them.

Sheila Kahyaoglu

Analyst

Sure. Thank you for that color. And then maybe as a follow-up just on your last point, as well as you guys mentioned in the opening remarks, it’s very clear you care about your people. And just thinking about hiring and consulting headcount grew 4% in a very tough virtual environment, but that’s actually in line with your 2-year average. So, pretty good all things considered. Just wanted to see what you are seeing in terms of hiring and attrition?

Lloyd Howell

Management

I will start – on the hiring front. I think everyone, the labor market as well as ourselves had to adjust though we had done a modest amount pre-pandemic, it really went full bore in the midst of it. And I would say that candidates have acclimated well as is our hiring managers and our recruiting team. If there is any challenges we value our culture so much, so now that we have added 4% to our workforce, we have colleagues now that haven’t physically touched other colleagues. So, we are working through how to have virtual, social hours, things of that sort to maintain that, but I’d say the machinery is working well and we remain optimistic of keeping pace throughout the year.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

The only thing I will add to that is just to say that all the work that we have done both on our social justice agenda and before that on pandemic response, I think as if anything strengthen, our value proposition both inside Booz Allen and our brand as an employer. So, we have reason to believe that we will continue to see the level of success going forward.

Sheila Kahyaoglu

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jon Raviv from Citi. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

It’s [indiscernible] calling on for Jon. It’s been a lot of time in your prepared remarks, talking about balance sheet and the ability to take advantage of market volatility. Can you just shed a little bit more color on where you are standing, what sort of capabilities, look to add and then also a little bit of color on sort of size that you preserve for them, this is what you are looking at?

Horacio Rozanski

Management

Why don’t I start and I am sure again Lloyd will want to add. As you pointed out, we are looking at opportunities in the market very assertively. Our balance sheet is very strong. Our strategy is now clearly any focus. And so we know what we are looking for. It’s mostly tuck-ins that allow us to bring in unique technologies and unique positions to clients that accelerate our growth. The pipeline is beginning to build nicely after some fits and starts at the beginning of the pandemic. And we intend to scan things assertively. We are not going to deviate from the level of discipline we normally bring, but we are prepared to take advantage of volatility in asset prices and ensure that we are capturing what we need.

Lloyd Howell

Management

Jon, not much more to add, we are, as Horacio said, continuing to look at options to maximize value for our shareholders in the near, mid and long-term and certainly capability tuck-ins are a part of that. So, we look at over 100 opportunities every year. We are on pace to do that this fiscal year albeit the environment is pretty uncertain, but our deployment and our use of the balance sheet is certainly we see as a strength.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. Appreciate the color. And if you could just tell a little bit more color on that, in terms of your ability to integrate and subcontract AI versus develop it indigenously, is it something within your portfolio now that you could develop or if you feel that you need to add sort of capabilities to kind of create your own AI solutions for customers?

Horacio Rozanski

Management

I think we look at AI as a broad enterprise of product services, technologies and people and we are – our work is to make sure that AI scales through the federal government and creates real value. It’s clear in demonstration projects and in the lab that this technology offers great promise, but as you know, going from the lab to the field and the scaling process is a major challenge, which we are trying to accelerate. We do that through our own people and capabilities. We do that by investing in option value like [indiscernible]. We do that by building partnerships like our unique partnership with NVIDIA and so forth. And we will continue down this path to ensure that Booz Allen is the one company that can really help the governments, scale these technologies. We are very excited about our work with JAIC. We are very excited about the over 70 programs that we have going on right now and we see this as a growth area well into the future.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you for the color. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Carter Copeland from Melius Research. Please go ahead.

Carter Copeland

Analyst

Hey, good morning guys. Hope you are all well. Horacio, I had two questions for you. One, when you look at ET2RC and the JAIC, can you give us any sense of as part of that broader AI effort, what those kind of represented of your kind of near-term pipeline when you think about, what you wanted to go capture and the success you had there relative to what the opportunities maybe? And then secondly on, two of your option value investments, both District Defend and Rec.gov just in the context of what I would assume is a very high demand background for those sorts of capabilities and offerings right now, how that changes or informs your investment case on those? Thanks.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

Sure. You threw a lot at me, Carter, so if I don’t answer any part of it, just come back and we ask it, but let me start with AI. ET2RC is a program that is recompete when all the program that used to be called Global Threat Mitigation program. It was actually the first billion dollar win at Booz Allen. So, it was significant because of that, but it was also significant, because of the work – the underlying work. And the underlying work is to protect troops in the battlefield from emerging threats, originally about IEDs and now that has grown to a broader range of threats. And so what we are using is AI and virtual learning and a number of technologies to make sure that our clients can in fact move faster down, deploying, training, sometimes down range on many places and especially in this environment, very fast. The JAIC win we have talked about before, there is other things in the pipeline that make me very optimistic that again, we are getting traction on artificial intelligence as a premier provider. It’s core to our strategy, not just AI, but being the company that brings these new technologies to bear in the federal government in a way that are implementable into the mission. So, whether it’s that, whether it’s cloud adoption in a different way, we want to be that catalyst for technological change inside the government and our clients are giving us that opportunity. And again, I see more of that in the future. With regards to the option value portfolio, it continues to progress nicely. You can imagine that Rec.gov itself gave us some concern earlier in the year, because it’s primarily a site around the national parks and we weren’t sure, it’s tourism-related and the tourism industry has been hit very hard, but in fact people have turned to the national parks quite a bit. And so we are seeing good momentum there better than we anticipated. Going into the year, District, we continue to develop the technology and there is increased interest in it, because it allows for safer remote delivery, safer telework, but also mods in the context of all of the AI wins and our Directed Energy Initiative is also progressing very nicely. So, I think all-in-all, I would leave you with our strategies working. We remain in a growth posture and everything we are doing plus hopefully some opportunities that get created by our balance sheet make me optimistic about where we are going.

Carter Copeland

Analyst

Great. Thanks for the color.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

Sure.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Edward Caso from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Edward Caso

Analyst

Hi, good morning. Congrats on another solid quarter. I was trying to get a little bit more details on your exposure to the intelligence community. You said it was about 25% of revenue. I was curious how much of the revenue is being covered now by Section 3610, either others have said 8% to 12% of powers, can you can you provide some kind of number like that? Thanks.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

It would be difficult for us to do that. The impact that we are seeing as we mentioned in the last call really has been around seeing. And to that extent, we had expected it to be 6 million per month. In actuality, it’s a little bit less than that large part because the clients have allowed for telework approvals. We expect that will continue to evolve, the longer we get into the year, but that’s the most significant impact we are seeing as it relates to our national security work.

Edward Caso

Analyst

Just my other question is on the ability to hire, I think I heard your comments say that your head started virtual hiring, but you are now ramping it up. Other companies have said that they have been doing it before they seemed like it was a natural flow. So I didn’t know if you are a little behind the competition on hiring through this new model and also given the work that you do will assume a higher percentage of clearances are required. Is there any sort of friction in the clearance process that slowed your ability to hire and deploy? Thanks.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

Sure. On the virtual client, we have always had that as a component of our recruiting. It obviously now is a larger component to the recruiting since we are all in a virtual world. So, we are not saying that we are behind at all in fact for the type of talent that we have been sourcing and pursuing. We are very pleased with our performance up to this point. As it relates to the care community, that’s always a challenging set of candidates. I would say it remains so even in this environment. That being said, the government is still conducting background investigations and on par with the usual timing even – given the situation we are in. So that’s always going to remain a headwind, particularly for certain levels of classification, but the overall recruiting performance, we are very pleased with the results today.

Edward Caso

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Cai von Rumohr from Cowen. Please go ahead.

Cai von Rumohr

Analyst

Yes, thank you very much. So terrific Q2 book, terrific first quarter bookings. Was any of that bigger reflective of slips from the fourth quarter or pull-forwards from the second quarter? And given that the second quarter is usually your strongest, I think you do about 2x, should we still look for the second quarter to be very, very strong or note that this quarter steal some of that?

Lloyd Howell

Management

Yes, you know – thank you for that, Cai. Let’s look at our bookings in two parts. First one, on tactical sales dimension, we are on par, on pace in that category. So we are winning work that we expected both in terms of recompete as well as new work and that’s one contribution to our outstanding performance in Q1. The other part as we have said previously is we are pursuing larger opportunities. And it’s going to introduce volatility, because the timing of which is a little bit less certain. Several of those that Horacio highlighted in his opening comments came to fruition, whether it was going to be Q2 or Q1, only the government can decide, but they stayed true to their timing of awards and we are very pleased to win. As it relates to Q2, as you know, it coincides with the end of the government fiscal year. We are in the midst of a heavy procurement season. We are performing well and we would expect that we would be on par with our usual cyclicality of our bookings when we get Q2.

Cai von Rumohr

Analyst

Terrific. And then on the issue of M&A, one of your competitors made the point that they wouldn’t do any deals in the current environment, because it’s extremely difficult to do adequate due diligence on the virtual basis. Do you feel the same and would you do any deals before kind of COVID is behind us?

Horacio Rozanski

Management

Cai, I will start. I don’t think we feel the same way. We are known to be conservative and disciplined in our approach. We are going to be conservative and discipline in our approach, but we have transition to virtual work I think better than most and that’s not just in our service of clients, it’s in the way we work internally. And so I feel that if the opportunity presented itself we would not pass or delay it, because we are in the middle of the pandemic.

Cai von Rumohr

Analyst

Terrific. Thank you very much.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

Sure.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Gavin Parsons from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Gavin Parsons

Analyst

Hey, good morning.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

Good morning, Gavin.

Gavin Parsons

Analyst

Just wanted to touch on margins a little bit, I mean, lowest fixed price mix in a long time, a lot of COVID impacts. Obviously, you mentioned some of the pieces that helped, I just wanted to kind of ask higher level, is there a natural margin ceiling or how much further can you expand in the quarter specifically, did you turn off any investment or R&D just because of uncertainty, but it doesn’t sound like it?

Lloyd Howell

Management

Yes, we are very pleased with our margin performance despite the unprecedented operating environment. You may recall, we believe we have gotten here through a lot of operational excellence, executing the business well, our business leaders are sensitive and cognizant of not only the top line, but bottom line when it comes to job profitability. And so all of that, we believe, has contributed to our performance today. We are going to continue to operate the business well, as we forecasted for the year we expect to end that around approximately 10%. It’s a normal rhythm to our business where the seasonal spending in the second half is higher, and we have a bit of a dip in visibility in the second half. Although beyond that, we are on pace to land where we expected and how we forecasted we have not done anything unusual to the business as it relates to not investing, as we said that our year end close, we are investing in our people, we are going to continue to do that. And the normal rhythm of our business is that the business produces opportunities to invest in, we consider it closely and we pulled the trigger if it if it has merit with that no difference than any other year that we are working through. So at the end of the day, it really has been the operational excellence and execution by our business leaders.

Gavin Parsons

Analyst

Got it. That’s helpful. And then, as a hypothetical, obviously, it’s difficult to forecast the longer-term trajectory of the budget with all the uncertainty that we have today and the fiscal deficit and the election. But if you take a look at the last budget downturn where, obviously you guys outperformed the end market that seemed liked your end market was more impacted than the kind of broader defense or government budget on average. So I am just curious if we have a budget downturn going forward, whether or not you think today that kind of that the government IT end market might be relatively less impacted than say it was last time during a budget downturn? Thanks.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

I guess I will try and take that, I will say first that my crystal ball is a little cloudy this morning. But I will answer the following we remain in a growth posture. What I believe is that there is opportunity to continue to help our clients make this transformation towards digital and towards new technologies, and then if anything in a tight budget, those are going to become more important because of the efficiencies that they create. And so we are well positioned, I believe as a company to capture upside from effectiveness, but also capture upside from efficiency as we help our clients make this transition and that is why to your earlier question Lloyd said what we say which is we are going to invest in our business and in our people and we are going to drive forward our goal is always to out pace the end market and we have been doing that for a long time through ups and downs and we intend to do the same

Gavin Parsons

Analyst

Make sense. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Matt Akers from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Matt Akers

Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. I was wondering if you could touch on the impact from the CARES Act lost fee work, how that sort of trended as you move through the quarter and July and also how fast kind of over the same period people might be able to return to some of those locations that they may not have been able to access?

Lloyd Howell

Management

Sure. We had expected that the significant impact would be international security accounts, largely around the inability to invoice for fee, and we estimate at the time, about a $6 million per month on headwind. The reality is it came in a little bit less than that, large part because our clients were approving of us to support them with telework. We also had shifted as the many in the sector to a shift work arrangement to continue to support those critical missions. Like Horacio’s crystal ball, mine is equally cloudy as to how long or at what rate, the government will make adjustments, but we are in heavy discussions with our clients. And as with any uncertainty involving the virus, we just need to remain agile. At the end of the day we built in this to our forecast and we still expect to finish at approximately 10% on margins by the end of the year. But as it relates to the CARES Act, that’s been the impact up to this point. As we said in our prepared remarks, we are going to come up on the September 30 and we will see what adjustments at that time the government makes or not.

Matt Akers

Analyst

Great. Thanks. And then I guess one other I think last quarter, you had mentioned PPP time-off as maybe a variable kind of in the later part of the year. If I look at kind of your productivity, just like revenue per employee and the quarter looks like it was pretty strong. So I guess could you just kind of touch on how your employees are kind of managing why they were so productive in the quarter and if that maybe could be a little bit of a headwind as we move throughout the year?

Lloyd Howell

Management

Sure. I will start, I am sure Horacio would jump in. Our employees have been great. I want to talk about seamless transition to a virtual environment, not losing much of anything around productivity. Everyone has been running 100% plus since March. And I think from a numerical standpoint, you see what result that was able to yield. At the same time, everyone runs the risk of burnout. And so we have been encouraging our people to take care of themselves, physically, mentally as part of our constant communication with our folks and through our leaders. And we have seen a modest uptick in people beginning to take PTO. And we actually see people come back, recharge. That will continue to be our messaging. As Horacio said, the $100million resiliency fund is in place and we fully intend to take advantage of that on the benefit of our employees. But everyone has been extremely productive, but now we are shifting to making sure that everyone is taking care of themselves at the same time.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

I don’t have much to add other than echoing Lloyd’s shout out to our people, especially this has been hard on people without a doubt and especially on families, people who are taking care of elderly relatives and yet they have not skipped a beat. They are working hard. We are looking for ways to support them into the fall. We are being as creative as innovative as we possibly can and our team has responded really well to the fact that we are in it together.

Matt Akers

Analyst

Great. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I show our next question comes from Joseph DeNardi from Stifel. Please go ahead.

Joseph DeNardi

Analyst

Yes, good morning. Lloyd, I think this is for you. When you look across your three government customers, defense, intel and civil, can you just talk about how you look at your market share within each one of those customers? And then what our realistic market share is 5 – or 8 years from now, just in the context of this, because we do see kind of a tougher budget environment, your ability to grow just from continuing to gain share? Thank you.

Lloyd Howell

Management

Yes, Joe, it’s a great question, but it’s a challenge to answer, because the metrics by which you would traditionally look at share are a bit perverted as we kind of see opportunities and pursue them. So, case in point, the government now is bundling more and more different capabilities albeit within a market. And so, if you try to define in terms of capability, it’s not exact and then frankly, internally, it’s not a metric that our business leaders are focused on. By proxy, our win rates are at the same level as we exited FY ‘20. For recompetes, we are winning at 90%, for new work slightly over 60% and simply put, if we are winning, someone is losing, so I like the fact that our win rates are sustaining. We have traditionally outpaced the market from an organic growth perspective. Now, we are off to a great start, but I struggled today to break it down in terms of share percentage just given how the calculation would be a bit cloudy.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

Yes, I think the only thing I will add is the last time we looked at this we are essentially single-digit market share across all of our primary end-markets. And so I don’t think we are cap and if anything the expansion of work that we're doing around capabilities, around option value and so forth I think opens up new available markets to us. So I believe this notion that we're in a growth posture needs to be with us and that we are going to invest in this business through the upturns but also through the down turns in the overall budget picture if I think what is going to make Booz Allen continue to succeed over time.

Joseph DeNardi

Analyst

That’s helpful. And Horacio you mentioned earlier that the kind of the value proposition of IT modernization should become more compelling to your customer in a more constrained budget environment can you just talk about the level of confidence you have that the customer will actually recognize that and kind of act rationally from a budget standpoint because I am not sure that historically that’s always been the case whether you think budget management and spending where investments are actually more appropriate will be different going forward than it has in the past? Thank you.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

Sure I will tell you over the last decade may be as a result of the increased challenges in terms of budgets in congress and all of that our end clients have become more sophisticated about how they prioritize and how they manage than they use to be. When sequestration came online, if you want to go all the way back there are clients started in the way that frankly many companies start with these discussions which is cuts across the board and so forth but very quickly move to prioritizing what was most needed what was most important and then cutting something’s that were less important more deeply I think that is now a skill set that is in the muscle memory of especially the larger federal agencies that we serve and so I would expect that that will be the approach and again I would say if I take that from a Booz Allen’s first of all I think we have broad range of technology capabilities that will help them to that and then secondly the combination that we are so broad across the government and that our single P&L business model actually allows us to flex quickly is what I think gives me some level of confidence that should there be a change in the budget posture we will weather that well.

Joseph DeNardi

Analyst

Helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes our Q&A session. I would like to turn the call over to Horacio Rozanski, President and CEO for closing remarks.

Horacio Rozanski

Management

Thank you very much and thanks everyone for your time and for your questions this mornings. As always, Lloyd and I are proud to represent the people of Booz Allen as another fiscal year gets on their way. It is our people’s skills, their passion, their values that power our firm quarter after quarter and year after year and because of them I will say it again, we will look to the future with confidence. So until next time I hope your families stay safe and remain healthy. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.