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OP
Operator
Operator
Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the BofI Holding, Inc. Third Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. For today's presentation all parties will be in a listen-only mode. As a reminder, following the presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] This conference is being recorded today, Thursday, April 30, 2015. Now I would like to turn the conference over to Johnny Lai, from BofI Holding. Please go ahead, sir.
JL
Johnny Lai
Analyst
Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Joining us today for BofI Inc.'s third quarter financial results conference call are the Company's President and Chief Executive Officer, Greg Garrabrants; and Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Andy Micheletti. Greg and Andy will review and comment on the financial and operational results for the third quarter and they will be available to answer questions after the prepared presentation. Before we begin, I would like to remind listeners that on this call prepared remarks may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties, and that management may make additional statements in response to your questions. Therefore, the company claims the protection from the Safe Harbor for forward-looking statements that is contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements related to the business of BofI Holding, Inc. and its subsidiaries can be identified by common use forward-looking terminology and those statements involve unknown risks and uncertainties, including all business-related risks that are more detailed in the company's filings on Form 10-K, 10-Q and 8-K with the SEC. This call is being webcast, and there will be an audio replay available in the Investor Relations section of the company's website located at www.bofiholding.com. All the details of this call were provided on the conference call announcement and in today's press release. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Greg Garrabrants, who will provide opening remarks. Greg, the floor is yours.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Thank you, Johnny. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'd like to welcome everyone to BofI Holding's conference call for the third quarter of fiscal 2015 ended March 31, 2015. I thank you for your interest in BofI Holding and BofI Federal Bank. BofI announced record net income for its third quarter ended 2015 of $21,74,000 up 44.2% when compared to the $14,610,000 earned in the third quarter ended March 31, 2014, and up 8.8% when compared to the $19,372,000 earned last quarter. Earnings attributable to BofI's common stockholders were $20,997,000 or $1.35 per diluted share for the quarter ended March 31, 2015, compared to $1 per diluted share for the quarter ended March 31, 2014, and $1.26 per diluted share for the quarter ended December 31, 2014. Excluding the after-tax impact of net gains related to investment securities, core earnings for the third quarter ended March 31, 2015, increased $6.6 million or 43.8% when compared to the quarter ended March 31, 2014. Other highlights for the third quarter include total assets reached $5.5 billion at March 31, 2015, up $334 million compared to December 31, 2014, and up $1.7 billion from the third quarter in 2014. Deposits increased by $1.5 billion from the third quarter of 2014 to $4.4 billion. Return on equity reached 17.86% for the third quarter. The efficiency ratio was 34.46% for the third quarter of fiscal 2015, down 64 basis points from 35.10% from the quarter -- third quarter of fiscal 2014, and down 9 basis points from the 34.55% in the second quarter of 2015. Credit quality remains very good, with 6 basis points of net charge-offs in the third quarter compared to 11 basis points in the corresponding period a year ago. We had another great quarter of loan production.…
AM
Andy Micheletti
Analyst
Thanks Greg. First, I wanted to note that in addition to our press release, our 10-Q was filed with the SEC today, and is available online through EDGAR or through our website at bofiholding.com. Second, I will discuss our quarterly results on a year-over-year basis, meaning fiscal 2015 versus fiscal 2014 as well as this quarter ended March 31, 2015, versus the second quarter ended December 31, 2014. For the quarter ended March 31, 2015, net income totaled $21,74,000 up 44.2% from the third quarter of fiscal 2014. Diluted earnings were $1.35 per share this quarter, up $0.35 or 35% compared to the third quarter of fiscal 2014. Net income increased 8.8% compared to the second quarter ended December 31, 2014. For the nine months ended March 31, 2015, net income totaled $58,287,000 up 45.9% compared to the nine months ended March 31, 2014. Diluted earnings were $3.81 per share for the nine months ended March 31, 2015, up $1.5 or 38% compared to the nine months ended March 31, 2014. Excluding the after tax impact of gains and losses associated with our securities portfolio, core earnings were $21,564,000 for the quarter ended in 2015, up 43.8% year-over-year from the $15 million in core earnings for the third quarter of fiscal 2014 and up 11.2% from $19,386,000 in core earnings for the last quarter ended December 31, 2014. Net interest income increased $15,02,000 during the third quarter ended March 31, 2015, compared to the third quarter of fiscal 2014, and increased $2,554,000 compared to the second quarter ended March 31, 2014. This was primarily the result of the increases in average interest earning assets. Net interest margin this quarter was 3.85% compared to 3.89% in the third quarter of fiscal 2014 and compared to 3.85% in the quarter ended December…
JL
Johnny Lai
Analyst
Great. We're ready to take questions.
OP
Operator
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And we'll go first to Bob Ramsey with FBR.
BR
Bob Ramsey
Analyst
Hey. Good evening, guys.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Hi Bob.
BR
Bob Ramsey
Analyst
First question I have for you is about net interest margin, obviously margin was stable, which is nice to see in this environment and your loan yield was actually up quarter-over-quarter. I was just wondering if you could sort of elaborate on what helps that loan yield move higher? Whether it was mix shift or whether there was anything else going on in that?
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Really two things, the first was mix shift with a little bit higher proportion on the C&I side, that's generally accretive to loan yield and then we've done movements in pricing around in the multi-family side and candidly some of the -- some of our loan yields have slipped a little bit primarily due to some sales management issues that we needed to fix and so we did that. And we're actually seeing that on the loan yield on the multi-family side going the right direction, but also volumes as well. So those were both positive signs there and that's primarily the reason and they've nearly been able to do a little bit of reductions on the deposit side. They didn't see a lot of that this quarter, but there is some potential lift next quarter as well, which is why we're really very, very comfortable giving that 4% to 3.8% guidance even for next quarter as well.
BR
Bob Ramsey
Analyst
Okay. Great. That's helpful. On the loan side you guys had new record loan originations this quarter, but the loan growth while it certainly is strong was not as strong as it's been in some recent quarters, just curious what you all saw in terms of prepayment activity or maybe what sort of took away some of the growth of the originations were suggested.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
It was -- mostly we had -- we had a decent number of significant C&I payoffs and then we also had some larger loans that would be coming on to replace those get pushed -- was pushing in the next quarter. so that really impacted the timing there. So we expected to have a little bit better net origination growth in the C&I side than we actually had based on some payoffs there and I think that that was really the primary difference and we're not seeing much on the primary side, really changing.
AM
Andy Micheletti
Analyst
Not an increase in the pre-pay rate that significant, but obviously as we get to be a bigger bank, the growth rate, the 44% growth rate has never been guiding to that and I do expect that that's going to come down a bit. I think real growth is still on the loan side is very robust. We're not shooting for a 40% growth rate year-over-year.
BR
Bob Ramsey
Analyst
No. That's fair and I guess I was looking at it in dollar terms of 10% because you're right, 10% get harder the bigger you get. You'll also said in the release, I can't remember the exact lines, but you said that the pipeline heading into this coming quarter is very strong know if you could sort of quantify what it was as compared to last quarter or the recent quarters or just give a little more color on the size of the pipeline?
AM
Andy Micheletti
Analyst
Yes so its $956 million is the total pipeline and while it's last quarter that was actually for our comparisons, compared to $849 for the last quarter.
BR
Bob Ramsey
Analyst
Great. That is all helpful color. I'll hop out and get someone else the turn. Thank you.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Thank you.
OP
Operator
Operator
And we'll go next to Julianna Balicka with KBW.
JB
Julianna Balicka
Analyst
Hello. Good afternoon.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Hi Julianna.
JB
Julianna Balicka
Analyst
Hello. A couple of questions. One just real quick on your previous answer just now that you were talking about some of the loans that were pushed into second quarter, that's in the $956 million pipeline?
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Yes, they would be in that pipeline as of the date of that pipeline was measured to the extent that they were and each category has a different definition. The multi-family loans you have to have your money up. For C&I you have to have a signed LOI and for single-family you have to have a submitted application. So each of those so yes is the short answer and they would be in there.
JB
Julianna Balicka
Analyst
Okay. In terms loan yields kind of going forward from here, with the first quarter typically generally being a third quarter for multi-family in general, does that mean that going forward, because your C&I growth is gaining traction and getting bigger. Should we be looking for flattish loan yield or upward lift or will just increase, cumulative increase in multi-family kind of mask C&I in the coming couple of quarters?
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
I think that’s fair to think about flat loan yields. I think that’s probably the right approach there. Where I think we’ve done a pretty good job of keeping it there. But there is some multi-family loans that burn off on pre-pays and things that have slightly higher rate. So we have to continually ensure that we’re able to refresh that. So I think assuming flattish yields is probably the right approach.
JB
Julianna Balicka
Analyst
Okay. And then in terms of your premier banks that you started and total deposit gathering there, I know its early stages still, but what kind of deposit rate should we be thinking about for this decline?
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
We’re not -- we generally try not to break things down in that categorization and I’m not really ready to share that on a regular basis. But the model there is that what we’ve been finding particularly through our jumbo mortgage business and through our data initiatives that we’re running to people who would like to be part of the bank, but don’t want, but feel very, very much that the service delivery model, which would operate through a call center, which we try to keep wait times reasonable on those sort of things that just doesn’t work for them. So that’s the model. It’s doing quite well, but it’s still very early and there’s still a lot of -- it still has a very simple product set. There’s I think about 3 RM. So there’s lot to do there. It’s just more demonstrative of a lot of the creativity I think that’s going on in the bank to really serve different segments.
JB
Julianna Balicka
Analyst
Okay. And then in terms of your deposit growth last quarter you had -- that your deposit growth exceeded loan growth and part of it was some low hanging fruit as you had said in terms of refocusing on deposit growth. And this quarter once again we saw strong deposit growth. At what point should we start thinking that your low hanging fruit has been gathered and we’re looking at more of trend run rate of growth or are you still kind of in the gathering of the easier deposits?
AM
Andy Micheletti
Analyst
I think that this quarter I would say that that transition really has been made this March quarter. We’ve done so much on the deposit side from a structural perspective. We have very talented Chief Deposit Officers and ex Mackenzie partner who is running a large Data Analytics Group at Citi Bank. We’d expanded our digital marketing team so much. We have a much better outbound effort that has reduced -- or has increased retention dramatically, increased funding rates for accounts. There is all sorts of micro improvements that a better team has made really and those include on the application having online chat. So we get such significant flow to our site but the conversion ratios, we felt could be better or showing that. So we hear a lot of things like that, that are really going on the cash management side of business, banking is maturing, Vertis came on. So it’s a lot of things that are working. The Advisor side is growing. So it’s really core operationally. One of the things that happens is its always funny, because on your side of the house people are always trying to read the tea leaves and when you had the kind of run we have it's always, royalty loan growth it’s going to bad, deposit growth is going to be bad. Can you raise capital? The regulatory issue that, so it’s sort of always bounces around and usually it’s wrong. And it was wrong that we couldn’t raise deposits that we wanted. We just did expected that block would get done and so we were sort of preparing for that being very aggressive in reducing rates and we had to catch-up a little bit there. And so this is really more I think fundamental about the fact that we’re working on the things that matter to people we have this inherent advantage from a product perspective where we present what we have to people. They really don’t talk about branches. They really don’t care and they really get the service model and they get the value model and it’s just about getting that message out. So I feel pretty good about where we are. We don’t want our borrowings to go down too much. Most of those borrowings are longer term now and that's part of our effort to decrease our interest rate risk profile. So you have to be thoughtful about, where we are always balancing out loan and deposit growth, but its fundamental business transformations that we continually do here to make our business better.
JB
Julianna Balicka
Analyst
Very good. Thank you for the color
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Thank you.
OP
Operator
Operator
And we’ll go next to Andrew Liesch with Sandler O'Neill.
AL
Andrew Liesch
Analyst
Hi guys.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Hey Andrew.
AL
Andrew Liesch
Analyst
Greg so you mentioned expanding into the auto lending business, I think you mentioned it before, but for you to just refresh us may be if is this through Cosco and like what sort of markets are you targeting? Are they prime auto and then like how fast would you like to ramp this growth.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Right, its, its prime auto. We're working on, working through, extending the product to Cosco, I would expect that -- it to be a very slow rollout and be part of a broader much longer term multiyear initiative for us to work through our strategy on the personal lending side and the auto lending side. Its designed to be able to allow us to capture a real time cross-sell opportunity that will be data driven around our existing customers, around all the customers we're getting debt from through H&R Block and things like that. So Cosco is a -- Cosco is very supportive of us. They've always been willing to work with us on different opportunities that we have and that they have available and that continues to be the case. So I don’t want to make promises that will absolutely can get there, but I believe very strongly that we can, but we’re going to take this very slowly. Mostly people forget that we actually take a really long time to incubate businesses and that’s why we've been so successful from a regulatory perspective and don’t have regulatory issues because we really take a long time to do what we do whether it was on the prepaid side or whatever. So, I wouldn’t even to be candid, I wouldn’t bother modeling it for this year, but in 2016 it will start to pop up and it will continue to be part of strategy which is we're not going to be dependent upon anyone thing. Candidly, I could take up my mortgage banking revenue and make it so much greater right now, but we are very smart to encourage that sort of steadiness in what we're doing and have broad diversity in our product. So that’s really where it is. I mentioned it primarily because I want everybody know we continued to invest at the same time that we have our efficiency ratio where we are or even be lower if want as investments, but that’s part of our DNA is to continually incubate businesses and I think you all continue to see a lot of fun stuffs coming out some.
AL
Andrew Liesch
Analyst
Got it. That’s helpful and then I guess along those same lines of investing like, how do you feel about headcount for the organizations for your growth plans? Whether it be on the lending side, deposit side or back office like how much more hiring do you anticipate doing in the near future?
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
We’ve got some interesting things to think about. We really do have -- we leave -- our market opportunities are limited not by the market or by anything that’s available outside of what we’re capable of doing. And it's always important because our regulators always say we have to make sure that we have the risk management ahead of growth and those sort of things and so we’re really focused on that. But we really, what keeps us from doubling our mortgage banking income is just getting people in seats and building space and things like that. So we always have to think about making sure that we’re bringing along those that production force, the same time we're bringing along our risk management side. So I guess, I would expect that we would have similar employee growth. As we look -- if we look at with some efficiencies, so I don’t hold me to it, but you could see it another 100, 125 people over the next year or something as building out incremental sales teams on the single-family side specifically focused on purchase business. This quarter we had to turn off most of our data, big data lead gen, because we just couldn’t handle the volume right. So it’s -- we kind of always managed very efficiently, So we don’t have big ups and big downs, but at the same time when you're looking at just great gain on sell margin and you're having to just leave money on the table, there is an element of frustration about that too. So we’ve got to really balance that out. It may mean, but we look at another state to open an office to allow some of us access to some different labor pools San Diego isn’t the largest financial services market for mortgage and things like that and there are certainly other areas that could be interesting. So we have a lot to think about, but it's all really exciting, very positive stuff.
AL
Andrew Liesch
Analyst
Okay. That’s helpful too. And then just one clarification question the professional services fees line items, we'll take it as about 800,00 in the last quarter up to about $1.7 million just this quarter is curious of what that difference is?
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Yeah, we had, some of the -- we had losses that kind of ahead in this quarter, it was not one that we believed had any merit and we ultimately settled it for no money paid whatsoever and no business restrictions of any kind. But there is a temporary and then it was mostly paid for by insurance, but there was a temporary end balance between getting certainty around the insurance proceeds and the payment of the legal fees and that kind of -- it sort of spiked up because there were it culminating and sort of putting enough pressure on the whole situation to just get them to walk way was -- it was doing more depositions and some things like that. And so I think the good part of that is that we don't really see anything like that in the future and the coming, although you never know. Obviously there are lots of people who want to try to get a piece of something successful and even if they ultimately fail it can be a pain to get rid of them. So the only way I think that there is good news there to in a sense that we wouldn’t expect that kind of expense in the future.
AM
Andy Micheletti
Analyst
As we look at going forward Andrew, I would look more toward a $1 million, $1.1 million run rate and we've bounced around a little bit, due to the timing on this, but really you’re looking at more like a $1 million, $1.1 million next quarter
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Yeah and most of that would be forward-looking IT that sort of consulting stuff as we fill in little holes in our permanent staff that we keep our development efforts going
AL
Andrew Liesch
Analyst
Got you. Understood. Thanks for taking my questions.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Sure
OP
Operator
Operator
And we’ll go next to Edward Hemmelgarn with Shaker Investments.
EH
Edward Hemmelgarn
Analyst
Yeah, thanks just have a few questions. I know you had an increase in the percentage of your in-house single-family non-performing mortgages. Can you talk about that a little bit, what cautious? I know you’re not having the losses, but I mean is it…
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Andrew, do you want to take that
AM
Andy Micheletti
Analyst
Sure, when you look at our overall non-performing, they actually were pretty much flat over period over period for that period. As we noted last quarter, there were two single-family loans together which add up to approximately $12 million. Those two single family loans are the ones that had created a temporary spike up in the non-performing. So that’s primarily what you‘re seeing.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
We don't think there anything systemic there. These are kind of more idiosyncratic situation. So we think it will be resolved very favorably there. They're in great locations with great collateral and we think there will be resolved well for us from a financial perspective and don’t see any issues with them.
EH
Edward Hemmelgarn
Analyst
Okay. All right, just was curious because your losses aren’t going up -- and in terms of commercial or the checking deposits you've really been able to offer a product to your customers that offers much lower fees, do you then what -- they're currently most banks are offering. So I think that’s been a real positive for you, what are your expectations for interest rates to be paid on these deposits as interest rate move up? Do you think that you’ll be able to interest rates fairly low just because you’re offering such a deal on the fees or…
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
That's certainly what we believe. We think that we see the activity reflected in the banking services fees and all the areas from an interchange perspective that, that we believe that we have a product offering that is competitive and spoke to our clients and so we don’t think will have the rate pressure on those deposits and so we think that that is a good thing. We already tend to have a value proposition but some of it is rate based and some of its fee based but fairly attractive. So there certainly is a great difficulty for anyone else to match us. There is a fundamental issue economically here right and that is that if you don’t have a 180-plus basis point and growing cost advantage on assets over your whole bank, then you have a very difficult time offering what we do regardless of rate is paid because you can’t make on a free checking account regardless, right. So it's sort of an interesting, it's an interesting issue if you’re competing with us because you really can’t do what we do and we’ve got -- our work we believe is we don’t think we’re going to have to pay higher interest on those, we have to do is just continue to improve that the UX and the UY and continue to look for innovative ways to provide value to our customers within our online experience. And I think that whole definition of the customers services is changing in the sense it could be that somebody has a great ability to set an alert that says they checked 25% at a restaurant and they get a note on that, they get a text message on that on their cell phone, put to let them know that maybe something happened at the restaurant and wasn’t what they wanted to do or maybe that is but I think that’s just a lot of the things that we’re doing are really creating consumer sticking us around our platform and we’re making people very comfortable with our service because we can do that without branches and for the people that we’re serving we don’t think that that matters very much. We really do believe that we’ve had such a low customer acquisition cost, I mean it’s been extraordinarily low partially because we’re so product led and we think that the opportunity probably to be less product led and more marketing led is going to be something that’s an opportunity as we increase our marketing team and get our digital infrastructure really where it needs to be and that’s something that is happening very rapidly but it’s still, it’s still a little bit of things we need to work on there to make it really, really efficient.
EH
Edward Hemmelgarn
Analyst
Okay, couple more questions, one regarding the H&R Block transaction, I mean this is it seems like the transaction has currently structured the -- don’t seem to will they ever approve it, would you is there a data which you would consider in kind of breaking up the terms of the deal into that’s what is needed to be approved, which is you get approved all the time for transferring deposit accounts and then have a non-approval part, I mean that seems to be the only sticking point?
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Yes I understand the question and that’s a good one. I really believe that we’re going to have a resolution and I believe it’s going to be positive within a relatively short period of time. There is a good number of reasons I believe that mainly because having ongoing discussions regularly with the OCC on the matter. They had an abundance of opportunity to tell us if they thought that there would be not a chance for approval. And so I think that let me say this before I address the question of breaking it up, the three things the regulators can do I have taken approval transaction without condition they can approve it with conditions and they can decline it. I think that whenever you have a situation where you have then discussing approvals with you, they may ask for certain conditions things like that and you’re going to have discussions with those that can take a little more time but those are fruitful discussions and they’re productive discussions and they lead I think to the regulators in the bank both understanding what are the things that they care about and I think that that's a fruitful set of discussions. We've always said that we're happy to and we remain both free and committed to H&R Block the time of deal that would involve simply the PMA agreement which is primary agreement that’s from a fee structure perspective on an ongoing relationship perspective is the most important part of the transaction. But we also respect H&R Block’s desire to have absolute certainty around everything that they are doing and so that I think that they have structured this transaction on a certain way and I don’t way to speak for them, but I think that if we can get reasonably speedy resolution here I think that they probably would be willing to restructure it in a manner that’s still gets it done. They have lots of options to getting this done and so do we and if we didn’t think that, we had a viable option in the current form then we would obviously look at least from my perspective of turning to the other options, I just don’t think we’re going to have to get there.
EH
Edward Hemmelgarn
Analyst
Okay. And lastly just you mentioned the increase in legal fees, did that relate -- I recall in your last quarter, the quarter before, somebody was asking the question about there was a fraud lawsuit filed against you or something is that still ongoing or does this?
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
No it’s not, that was one of those blog pieces or whatever you call them, they came out, met with a suit that they had brought up and the legal fees were related to that, that is not, that is not ongoing, it’s been, let’s say completely settled. We didn’t pay a single dime in that suit, no business restrictions in that that individual just simply walked away from that particular action.
EH
Edward Hemmelgarn
Analyst
Just it cost you money but did you get rid of this…
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Yes unfortunately it did. Although we had, insurance reimbursed most of it and that is some of that insurance proceeds are lagging. So but it’s still costing us something, it wasn’t a 100% covered by insurance but most of it was some.
EH
Edward Hemmelgarn
Analyst
Okay, all right, thanks. Just curious.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Sure, thank you Andrew.
OP
Operator
Operator
And we'll go next to Don Worthington with Raymond James.
DW
Don Worthington
Analyst
Hi good afternoon.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Hey Don.
DW
Don Worthington
Analyst
On the mortgage banking income, I guess I’m really looking at mortgage banking plus fee gain on other loans I guess probably the structured settlements, where would you think that would be going over the next couple of years and it’s a combination of the two?
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
That's I would say that -- I would say that a flattish estimate maybe slightly down, I don’t, I want to be careful about that, we have got a lot of great long-term plans there, but there was a very good margin quarter. We’re little bit capacity constrained there, so even if we’re able to keep volume at our capacity, we might have slightly declining margins, it really depends but we’ve -- but I would model that out relatively flattish I think would the right approach.
DW
Don Worthington
Analyst
Okay, okay. And then in terms of the deposit growth this quarter how much of that was in broker deposits?
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
We did have some broker deposits in the longer CDs. So when you look at the growth in the CD average, what you’re seeing is us doing 10 year brokered CDs. That was designed specifically of course to increase and improve our interest rate risk profile this quarter. So where we -- I don’t know that we’re going to do a similar increase but it that was up around $50 million is what we did.
DW
Don Worthington
Analyst
Okay. All right, thank you.
OP
Operator
Operator
And we’ll go next to Gary Tenner with D.A. Davidson.
GT
Gary Tenner
Analyst
Good afternoon.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Hi Gary.
GT
Gary Tenner
Analyst
Hey, Don sort of addressed my question but to go further on the kind of rate sensitivity piece and the improvement in the first 12 months time period since December 31. Was that purely on the funding side and the mix as well as this CBZ Bond, were there any changes to assumptions? Whether it had to do with the asset side or with the re-pricing lag on the business deposits.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Yes, no major changes in assumptions at all. It has to do with exactly what you indicated early on that we had continued deposit mix as well as extension of our longer term liabilities. We did sell some longer duration lottery assets, which had a minor impact, but the majority if from the funding side.
GT
Gary Tenner
Analyst
Okay. And with the deposits coming in, in June from the Union transaction what's the offset to that? Will it be an offset on the funding side or will that just get invested short?
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Well, I think that given the fact that we grow loans at a decent clip and we know where that's coming at and end there will be some attrition there, we expect, we don't expect that to be substantially material. And then on the block side, it will be a little more challenging because we kind -- we had some short term borrowings that we were going to use to pay off and we tried to pay them off already. So that we may end up having some temporary liquidity spikes there, but overall we can continue to use that to improve our funding max and lower our cost of funds, which is what we hope to do and the good part of having a robust staff at generation side is we can generally use those deposits and reasonably speedy manner.
GT
Gary Tenner
Analyst
Okay. Thank you.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Thank you.
OP
Operator
Operator
And this does conclude the question-and-answer portion of today's conference call. At this time, I would like to turn the conference back over to Johnny Lai for any comments or closing remarks.
JL
Johnny Lai
Analyst
Great. Thank you for your interest in BOFI and please contact me if you have any follow-up questions.
GG
Greg Garrabrants
Analyst
Thank you, everyone. Take care.
OP
Operator
Operator
And this does conclude today's conference. We thank you all for your participation.