Yes. Thanks, Kathryn. Again, I think we expected renovation activity to bounce back this year. We had been talking about when new construction activity historically goes down into negative territory, renovation activity picks up and moves into positive territory. That's been true in 8 of the last 9 recessions. And again, you have to go back decades to get to 9 last recessions. And so that has been historically the norm, and we expected that to happen again this year, and that's exactly what we're experiencing. So when I look at the renovation activity coming back in 2021, number one, as expected, but when I see the strength of it in the bidding activity, which I'm watching very closely as a leading indicator to future demand, the bidding activity in the second quarter was a step change from what was seen in the first quarter, number one. But also when I go back and look at Q2 of '20, and I look at how much the bidding activity fell off and compare it to how much it picked up in the second quarter, again, it was a step change different to not only rebound from where it was, but it's even stronger than what it was negative, if that makes sense to you. So -- and again, that was across the spectrum of types of construction, but in particular, in the renovation part of the market, it was up demonstrably better. So that's leading -- I think that's a leading indicator for us for confidence into the second half and certainly into 2022. And then I'll point to one other thing. Our backlog in the Architectural Specialties business, which, Kathryn, you know well, we have our best visibility there in terms of projects. And our backlog in our Architectural Specialties businesses has built on the record level we had in the first quarter. So sitting here for the second half, we have the most backlog and position than we've ever had for our second quarter -- our second half expectation. Again, that's providing some additional, I think, optimism for the recovery is well underway.