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Q4 2023 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 28, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Astronics Corporation Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Craig Mychajluk with Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Craig Mychajluk

Analyst

Yes. Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. We certainly appreciate your time today and your interest in Astronics. On the call with me here today are Pete Gundermann, our Chairman, President and CEO; and Dave Burney, our Chief Financial Officer. You should have a copy of our fourth quarter and full year 2023 financial results, which crossed the wires after the market closed today. If you do not have the release, you can find it on our website at astronics.com. As you are aware, we may make forward-looking statements during the formal discussion and the Q&A session of this conference call. These statements apply to future events that are subject to risks and uncertainties as well as other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from what is stated here today. These risks and uncertainties and other factors are provided in the earnings release as well as with other documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. You can find those documents on our website or at sec.gov. During today's call, we'll also discuss some non-GAAP measures. We believe these will be useful in evaluating our performance. You should not consider the presentation of this additional information in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. We have provided reconciliations of non-GAAP measures with comparable GAAP measures in the tables that accompany today's release. So with that, let me turn it over to Pete to begin. Pete?

Peter Gundermann

Analyst

Thanks, Craig, and good afternoon, everybody. Thanks for tuning into our call. We ended 2023 on a pretty strong note and consider it in retrospect now a solid year of progress. Our fourth quarter results were enabled by a series of trends that have been affecting our business for some time. Those trends are continuing to shape our environment as we enter 2024, which we expect will be another year of progress. I will dedicate my few minutes of comments this afternoon to describing these trends and the impact they are having on our business. Then Dave will talk you through some of the specifics of our financial statements. But first, some headlines from the fourth quarter. Fourth quarter revenue of $195 million was at the high end of our forecasted range and up 23.5% over the comparator quarter of 2022. 2023 cumulative revenue of $689 million was up almost 29% over 2022. The higher volume drove improvements in financial profit measures. Our fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA, for example, was just shy of $25 million or 12.7% of sales. Year-to-date, 2023 adjusted EBITDA was $55.6 million or 8.1% of sales. In 2024, as previously announced, we expect revenue to be in the range of $760 million to $795 million. That's up at the midpoint, another 13% over where we closed in 2023. So about those trends. Our fourth quarter results are really kind of the expected results of several trends affecting our business. None of these are new. We've talked about them to varying degrees over recent quarterly calls. In other words, there was nothing really special that went into our fourth quarter to drive these results. It's more just the expected result of things that have been happening kind of under the surface for some time now. And I'll…

David Burney

Analyst

Sure. Thanks, Pete. As Pete mentioned, we had a very strong fourth quarter customer demand, supply chain and our operations executed at a high level during the quarter. The top line was driven by strong sales to all of our aerospace markets that combined were up $30.4 million or 22% compared to the fourth quarter of last year. Commercial transport, our largest end market, was particularly strong with sales up $21 million from last year's fourth quarter. Test segment sales also increased compared to last year from $19.8 million to $26.5 million. In terms of margins, we had a pretty clean quarter with no significant unusual costs or income. One item to be called out, though, is in the fourth quarter includes a full year of bonuses that were not determined until year-end, and therefore, not accrued each quarter as we went through the year. So Q4 reflects bonuses of $4.2 million. That's the full year amount. These bonuses will be paid in stock to preserve cash, and they are the first bonuses that we've paid since 2019. The top line growth drove our margin expansion, demonstrating the leverage we can get on incremental sales. Consolidated operating income increased by $10.9 million to $7.8 million or 4.5% -- or 4% driven by the sales growth. Looking at segment performance. The Aerospace segment, which represented 86% of our consolidated sales had operating income of 8.5%. Adjusting for the full year of bonuses that were recognized in the quarter, Aerospace operating margins would have been closer to 10%, which is back in the neighborhood of prepandemic levels. This margin expansion demonstrates the leverage we can achieve from incremental sales. As we said before, depending on mix, we tend to think of our contribution margin in Aerospace being around 40%. The Test segment…

Peter Gundermann

Analyst

And Rocco, over to you if you want to open it up for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Today's first question comes from Pete Osterland with Truist Securities. Please go ahead

Peter Osterland

Analyst

Hey, good evening guys. I'm on for Mike Ciarmoli this evening. So first, I just wanted to start with anything you could give us on how margins are looking to start the year. Just given that your first quarter sales guidance puts you at a similar level to where you were in the second quarter of last year and you had EBITDA margins of around 9% in that quarter, is that a good starting point for what you might do in the first quarter? Or are there any notable changes to your cost structure since then you call out, whether it's labor or productivity or other inputs in the business? Is there anything that would change how we look at what margins potentially might be?

David Burney

Analyst

Pete, I could take that. Not -- I wouldn't say that there's any significant cost structure changes in the first quarter. As I commented earlier, our contribution margin tends to be somewhere around 40% depending on product mix. So that works the same way as the top line goes down. So that would be a starting point. I think the other thing to look at would be the fourth quarter, which, as I mentioned, contained a full year's worth of bonuses in that fourth quarter. So if you're going to try to do a bridge between Q4 and Q1, you need to make an adjustment for that full year's worth of bonuses in the fourth quarter and adjust that profit up in Q4 for that. .

Peter Osterland

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. So then also I wanted to see if you could get a little more detail on the assumed revenue growth in 2024. Are you assuming a similar revenue split by segments for revenue in 2024? Or does your guidance assume relatively higher growth in either Aero or Test?

Peter Gundermann

Analyst

We would anticipate most of the growth coming on the Aero side. That's where the big -- that's where the penalty was from the pandemic, and that's where the big turnaround really has been. I mean if you look at our business by sources of income, our Test business actually was relatively stable. It's down a whole lot. So it's probably not going to go up a lot until we get this Army radio test program resolved and figured out. And similarly, business jet revenues have been relatively stable. The last quarter was particularly strong, enabled by supply chain and Military Aircraft also are -- has been pretty stable. So the big swing that took us from $772 million down to $450 million or whatever it was, was largely in the commercial transport side of the business and the rebound back to that level also is largely on the commercial transport side of the business.

Peter Osterland

Analyst

Great. And then I just had one last one on the bookings environment. So it looks like in the fourth quarter, your book-to-bill was a little bit lower versus what you put up in the rest of the year, although I understood that, that's relative to a higher revenue number. But I just wanted to get a sense of how are bookings trending to begin the first quarter in Aerospace so far.

Peter Gundermann

Analyst

I don't know if I had to say much specifically there. I can tell you that we have regular interactions among the sales professionals across our business. And we -- I guess I would describe the environment as continuing to be target rich. We think that there continues to be pretty strong demand. And so we're going to watch it, of course, because bookings over the first quarter and second quarter will start to have an impact on revenue as we work towards the end of the year. But the feedback I'm getting, the tone of our team is pretty positive there. And on the Test side, if we get this radio test program under wraps and underway sometime soon, that will have a pretty positive influence also in the year as we get towards the end of it.

Operator

Operator

Our next question today comes from Jon Tanwanteng with CJS Securities.

Jonathan Tanwanteng

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon. Thank you for taking my questions and congrats on the nice performance in the quarter. Pete, my first question is, can you talk about the Army's recent FLRAA cancellation and the reallocation of resources to FLRAA and maybe tell us how that impacts you over the longer term?

Peter Gundermann

Analyst

Well, it's a little bit of an early question, Jon, because we don't really know how this ramp-up is going to happen. As you know and probably most listeners on the call know, we are teamed -- we're part of the Bell V-280 FLRAA team. Bell won that competition against Sikorsky Lockheed team. And the two are set to compete against FLRAA. Yes. I guess I can't speak for the Army. I can't speak for Bell, and we're still learning the details, but I would tell you, I guess, from my perspective, that freeing up the system and the money to concentrate on FLRAA makes sense to me and is good for us. So we can concentrate our resources, again, I can't speak for Bell, but Bell can concentrate their resources on one program instead of two and the Army also. So I'm okay with it, especially since we were on the winning team. That's all right with me.

Jonathan Tanwanteng

Analyst

Fair enough. Got it. And can you give us just a little bit more color on the demand from Boeing that you're expecting beyond Q1, you mentioned a hole from rescheduling, and I was just wondering what your assumptions are in production run rates or the demand rates from you as you go through the year and what's assumed in the guidance?

Peter Gundermann

Analyst

Yes. I didn't mean to imply a hole. It seems to be more of a reschedule. So Boeing has been anticipating a ramp on 737 and like many suppliers, I think we were getting those kinds of cues. We ship basically as they tell us to and they update shipping plans in our higher-volume facilities like every 12 or 15 weeks. We don't always know what their production rate is. You would assume that our production rate is somehow correlated to their production rate. But every once in a while, it becomes apparent that they're a little bit ahead of us or they're a little bit behind us. And our hunch is that they were a little bit behind us. So they probably accumulated some inventory and they're rescheduling things. But I think we're still thinking that the word on the Street is that they're going to build at 35 to 38 737s a month. And while that's not 45 or whatever they're planning to go to by the end of 2024, it's a heck of a lot more than they were building back in 2020, which I think was about 0. So it's a minor kind of headache for us, but it's not a hold by any means. It's just a reallocation of inventory, I would say.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Tony Bancroft with Gabelli Funds. It looks like we're having technical issues with Mr. Bancroft. So at this time, we move to our next question, which comes from Ryan Michaelmene with Mann Group. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon. Thank you for taking the time Congratulations on the results and the continued recovery from the pandemic. I think it speaks to the quality of the business and the management team. A more general question, if I may. When you think about the sort of broader lighting and safety market and your panel business, could you just talk a little bit about the competitive landscape there, who the key competitors are, your current market share dynamics there? It's still very fragmented and how you see that market evolving and the opportunity set there?

Peter Gundermann

Analyst

Sure. It's -- you're asking about our lighting business in general, right?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes, sir.

Peter Gundermann

Analyst

Yes. It's one of our major thrusts for those who don't know. And we do -- we're involved in aircraft lighting really across the spectrum, business jet, military, commercial transport. We're active in the cockpit, we're active in the exterior and we're active in the cabin. So the range of products includes the lights you see on the outside of aeroplane, the flashing white or red or red and green or landing lights. If you are sitting in the cabin and you push that reading light above your head in the 37 or 777, that's our assembly for sure. And if you're in the cockpit, there's a whole bunch of things that light up, a whole bunch of indicators, and we do a lot of work through major avionics companies that end up in aircraft cockpits. I would venture to say that we are one of the larger aircraft lighting companies in the world. We do lighting in various places in our company. But if you add it all together, we're one of the larger. And the competitive nature of the business with our lighting product line, like some of our other product lines, the consolidation that's happened in the industry over the last 15 -- 10, 15 years has made us one of the more prominent stand-alone available suppliers to the big OEMs. And that has so far worked in our favor. And I'm hoping that it does for a long time because that's one of our differentiators is we're big enough to do what it is that we need to do, what the customers are asking from us, but we're small enough to do it. We would like to thank in a more prompt and effective and customer intimate kind of way. So the aerospace industries, like a lot of other industries, the reputation business, and we've been picking up share. So we're enthusiastic about it. It's one of our -- we consider our business to be based on four strategic thrust, and that's one of them.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. That's very helpful. Maybe just a quick follow-up on that. I mean and I know it may be difficult to estimate. But when you think about your market share and sort of the main players that you're up against, particularly maybe in terms of the military segment, are there any data points you have there that might be worth helping us to understand the company a little better?

Peter Gundermann

Analyst

Well, we do the exterior lighting suite on the Joint Strike Fighter, the F-35, for example, that's a high-volume, high-value program, and we have a big portion of it. We are not active in the cockpit, and there's a story there back in the day, there were international work share arrangements. So we were kind of precluded from that. But that would give you an example of what we're involved with.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is a follow-up from John Tanwanteng from CJS Securities.

Jonathan Tanwanteng

Analyst

I was wondering if you could -- you guys could walk through kind of your cash flow expectations for the year, especially as we head into Q1 and maybe revenue comes down, you collect on receivables, first of all. And then second of all, as your EBITDA clients back up, what kind of conversion can you expect?

David Burney

Analyst

Sure. Pete, I assume you want me to take that one?

Peter Gundermann

Analyst

Go ahead. We're not in the same place, obviously, for those who are listening.

David Burney

Analyst

Yes. Yes. So we expect to return to cash flow positivity as we move through 2024. It'll start off slow at the top line is slow. But as we move through into the second, third and fourth quarter, expect to generate significant cash flow from operations. And we'll have increased CapEx for the year compared to where we've been during the pandemic, where we really cut back on spending there. It will be in the neighborhood of $20 million in terms of CapEx. A lot of that is related to specific programs and new tooling for programs, testing setups for programs that we've won. And then I'm not going to give you specific numbers. We typically -- we've never given specific guidance on cash flow, but do expect it to return to significant cash flow generation as we move through the year so that it's north of our -- significantly north of what our net income will be for the year.

Jonathan Tanwanteng

Analyst

Got it. And then any phasing to the CapEx plans as you go through the year?

David Burney

Analyst

Yes. It's going to be more heavily weighted toward the back half of the year, I think. But not significant, and it's always a little bit difficult for us to predict specific quarters with the CapEx. A lot of things get moved out. Very rarely does anything get moved in. But I think for modeling purposes, I would probably look at it and it's going to be more or less rounding if you try to break it out separately by quarters. I'd probably just take your model and take the midpoint of our range and divide it by 4, I think.

Jonathan Tanwanteng

Analyst

Okay. Fair enough. And then just finally, obviously, with all the cash flow questions, what's the expectations for a potential refinancing and working down at high-cost debt that you have?

David Burney

Analyst

As I mentioned, as we return to profitability here and positive cash flow. We'll have more options available to us. I'm not ready to get into those at this point. But obviously, we -- our interest cost is pretty high right now, and our amortization of our term loan eats up a lot of cash. So we're going to continue to look at the alternatives and the best options for us as we move through the year here.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Tony Bancroft with Gabelli Funds.

Tony Bancroft

Analyst · Gabelli Funds.

Great job on the quarter. I just want to ask about a follow-up to -- about FLRAA. Obviously, we listened to the Textron call the other week, and they had some really positive news. It seems like things are going well there. Maybe just more of a 30,000-foot view of FLRAA, any incremental updates there? I know you talked a lot about electrification of the aircraft and you have a comparative advantage there. Maybe just some color or just maybe a little review of how that program impacts you positively.

Peter Gundermann

Analyst · Gabelli Funds.

Sure. It's going to be a really important program long term for our company. When I look at it, I would say that it has the potential and probability to be the single largest program that the company has ever undertaken. And a lot of that has to do with the shipset content that we are developing, a lot of it's based on architectures that we've already proven out, and thus, we think are relatively low risk. But the shipset content should be substantial. And it's still moving around, so it's premature to nail it down, but I think I've played this game with you, Tony, where if you pick a theoretical wide-body airplane and you imagine all the things we could possibly put -- and there's never been such an airplane. We've never done it. But an antenna on top and a full lighting suite on the exterior escape path lighting, a full load of PSUs, the full load of our IFE equipment, you'd probably get somewhere in the neighborhood of $750,000 for that airplane in terms of Astronics content. And the range of numbers that we're talking about for FLRAA are all well north of it. So it's, for us, a pretty substantial opportunity. I think we surprised some people in the industry that we were able to pull it off. And we're basically doing the entire electrical system from generators, after the generators to the end-use systems. So all the electronic circuit breakers, a lot of the switching in the electrical system, we're involved with. And obviously, trying to plan for and support the range of what might -- that aircraft might be asked to do over 30 years of use or 40 years of use, it's a pretty big task. But Bell has been a really good partner for us and with us. I mean we've done their 505, we did their 525. We did their FLRAA prototype actually before FLRAA, and then we did FLRAA. So we know that organization pretty well, and I think they know us pretty well. And we think it's going to be -- I think it's going to be a really great program. It's something the Army really needs.

Tony Bancroft

Analyst · Gabelli Funds.

That's pretty good overview. And then again, actually, we've been back and forth on this one, too. But with the sort of anything that you're seeing incremental also maybe a little bit 30,000 feet view. But with in-flight entertainment and on the commercial transport side, sort of retrofitting cockpits, as a customer -- just maybe you can give us a view on what the customer is talking to you about and what they want in sort of longer-term view there? Just any thoughts there?

Peter Gundermann

Analyst · Gabelli Funds.

Yes, I'd say the biggest trend that we see is that narrow-body operators around the world are adapting in-seat power in a way that they never really have before. It's a trend that was very helpful to us as we navigated through the pandemic as well as we did, but it's just picking up speed. So we developed a system largely in the pandemic or as the pandemic was beginning that we're partnered with Southwest Airlines, they were the target customer, and there was a lot of back and forth, and we've developed a system on our dime, with our IP that they endorsed and so far have agreed to put on their MAX fleet. There's an NG portion of that fleet that I expect we'll be talking about sometime also here in the near future. But it turns out that Southwest desire and the kind of the unique architecture of the system has found a lot of favor all around the world from India to China, Europe. So we're booking a lot of orders there, and that will be a major driving force for us in the IFEC world for a long time. The other trend I would say that's positive is that connectivity is getting better and more ubiquitous, not less. And we are involved in that in a number of ways also with some of the leading connectivity suppliers. So some of them are a little more reluctant to let us use their name than others, which where the customer -- it's their right. But we're pretty active in that space. So that's also, I think, a positive trend that's going to serve us well for quite a while.

Tony Bancroft

Analyst · Gabelli Funds.

And then lastly, anything with litigation on sort of what you guys have talked about in the K? Anything update there, what's going on? I know we talked about it a little bit before, but anything incremental?

Peter Gundermann

Analyst · Gabelli Funds.

Well, we have through situations as you know, we have a long-running dispute with Lufthansa Technik, been going on for more than a decade. Not much going on these days. There are little things happening here and there, but that's likely to pick up as we get towards the end of 2024. And there's a chance and I will dare say chance that those things get resolved in 2025, which would be kind of nice. That would be a change. As far as the Teradyne suite in our Test business, we actually got a very favorable ruling in December where we basically won on all counts. But of course, as these things go, either side has the right to appeal, and we understand that paradigm intends to appeal. So the orbit that takes is a little bit unpredictable. It's probably something that will play out in the middle of 2024. But it shouldn't be at least to begin with as expensive as what we've been through because all the fact finding has been found. So we'd hope for a little bit of a break there in terms of expense, but we won't know until we get there.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question-and-answer session and today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines, and have a wonderful day.