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A10 Networks, Inc. (ATEN)

Q3 2022 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 1, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, and thank you for attending today's A10 Third Quarter 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. My name is Austin, and I shall be your moderator for today. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions-and-answers at the end. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to pass the conference over to our host, Rob Fink. Rob,you may proceed.

Rob Fink

Analyst

Thank you, operator and thank you all for joining us today. This call is being recorded and webcasted live, and may be accessed for at least 90 days via the A10 Networks Investor Relations website at a10networks.com. Hosting the call today are Dhrupad Trivedi, A10's President and CEO; and CFO, Brian Becker. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that shortly after the market closed today, A10 Networks issued a press release announcing its third quarter 2022 financial results. Additionally, A10 published a presentation and supplemental trended financial statements. You may access the press release, presentation and trended financial statements on the Investor Relations section of the company's website. During the course of today's call, management will make forward-looking statements including statements regarding projections for future operating results; including revenue growth; industry and customer trends; focus on an investment in the go-to-market strategy and infrastructure; its capital allocation strategy; M&A opportunities; supply chain constraints and expectations; positioning for the repurchase and dividend programs and its market share. These statements are based on current expectations and beliefs as of today November 1, 2022. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties some of which are beyond our control such as the potential impact of the COVID-19 pandemic business and operations that could cause actual results to differ materially. You should not rely on them as predictions of future events. A10 does not intend to update information contained in these forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise unless required by law. For a more detailed description of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to A10's most recent 10-K. Please note that with the exception of revenue financial measures discussed today are on a non-GAAP basis and have been adjusted to exclude certain charges. The non-GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP and may be different from non-GAAP financial measures presented by other companies. A reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP measures can be found in the press release issued today and on the trended quarterly financial statements that's posted on the company's website. Now I would like to turn the call over to Dhrupad Trivedi. Dhrupad, the call is yours.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you, Rob and thank you all for joining us today. A10 continues to deliver strong revenue growth and earnings power. The third quarter was our 11th consecutive quarter of meeting revenue and EPS consensus expectations. We are achieving this consistency despite a global pandemic, economic volatility, higher interest rates and supply chain challenges. This is a testament to the business we have built upon a great technical foundation and to a team that relentlessly delivers excellence. We have proven that our business can be durable, leveraging differentiators to drive success even amidst unprecedented challenges. Today A10 is a security-focused organization, building cyber security into everything we do, while building upon our deep networking expertise and global customer footprint. This positioning is evident in our business model as our gross and operating margins reflect proprietary security-led solutions and strong customer demand for cybersecurity and infrastructure solutions. By design, we are not reliant on any single geographic region and in fact we are generating growth in nearly every region of the world despite foreign currency headwinds. To the best of our ability, we have built a risk-mitigated business model largely insulated from volatility in any specific region, product category or customer consumption model. We sell to two main customer groups, Enterprises and Service Providers. And within these two groups, our business is aligned with two secular tailwinds, infrastructure and cybersecurity. In the first half of 2022, the economy impacted Enterprise spending, while Service Provider revenue continued to grow providing a balanced model. In the third quarter, revenue from Enterprise customers represented our faster-growing customer segment, demonstrating that balance in our strategy. Both Enterprise and Service Provider segments grew in the third quarter and we continue to see demand from US large enterprises, aligned with the secular tailwind for our security-led solutions.…

Brian Becker

Analyst

Thank you, Dhrupad. Third quarter revenue was a record $72.1 million, up 10.2% year-over-year. Product revenue for the quarter was $45.1 million representing 62.6% of total revenue, up 13.3% year-over-year. Services revenue, which includes maintenance and support revenue, was $27 million or 37.4% of total revenue. Moving to our revenue from a geographic standpoint. Revenue from the Americas, including Latin America was $36 million, up 11.6%. Revenue from EMEA was $11.2 million compared to $11 million last year, up 2%. Revenue from Asia-Pacific including Japan was $24.9 million, up 12.4% compared to $22.1 million in the third quarter last year. On a constant currency basis, revenue in Japan increased 15% year-over-year in Q3. For reference, on a constant currency basis, A10 consolidated revenue has grown approximately 16% year-to-date. As you can see on our balance sheet, our deferred revenue was $126 million as of September 30, 2022, up 8% year-over-year. On a constant currency basis, deferred revenue would have increased 10% year-over-year in line with overall revenue growth. With the exception of revenue, all the metrics discussed on this call are on a non-GAAP basis unless otherwise stated. A full reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results are provided in our press release and on our website. Gross margin in the third quarter was 80.2%. As Dhrupad mentioned, we continue to successfully mitigate the impact of industry-wide global supply chain constraints and input cost increases. Non-GAAP operating expenses in Q3 were $38.3 million compared to $38.1 million in the third quarter last year, reflecting strategic investments in our growth priorities including cybersecurity technology and commercial execution. We reported $19.5 million in non-GAAP operating income, our highest quarterly result to-date, up 34.2% compared with $14.5 million in the year ago quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $21.3 million for the quarter, also a record,…

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you Brian. First, I want to thank all the global employees of A10 for continued performance in challenging and sometimes difficult situation. I'm proud of A10's ability to continue to perform better than the overall industry. This performance is due in large part to a highly differentiated technical platform combined with our ability to achieve diversification in all aspects of our business. Our security-led solutions are in demand across all customer segments and each of our target geography. We also maintained discipline in our execution, managing costs while investing to bolster our differentiation and successfully navigating ongoing supply chain challenges. Our solutions are well-aligned with durable secular catalysts, which results in sustainable performance. Operator, you can now open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Christian Schwab from Craig-Hallum. Christian, your line is open.

Christian Schwab

Analyst

Thank you. Congrats on another solid quarter. As we look to next calendar year, would you guys anticipate the security-led solutions to drive a strong double-digit growth in the enterprise like we've been experiencing?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you Christian. And I think I would say, we don't necessarily view it that way, although we do see the large enterprise segment continuing to be more balanced with our service provider outlook. I think the goal for us is, obviously, to deliver consistent performance regardless of the vertical. I think in the large enterprise segment, we definitely see traction and momentum led by security. And we expect to see that not just in North America, but also globally. So we're certainly optimistic about it and we feel good that on a combined basis we are well-positioned to get to the 10% to 12% range in addition to overcoming FX headwinds.

Christian Schwab

Analyst

Great. Is there any particular spending patterns or customer spending patterns in the service provider area that could be positive for the company as we look into the next calendar year?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yeah. No, it’s a good question. So when you look at service provider spending patterns predominantly there is an infrastructure build-out that is CapEx-driven. However, because of the nature of our product, we continue to be relevant to them even as they add more subscribers and handle more data and so forth, right? So we see that as a balance of when interest rate might drive fear of CapEx right now, but it's not as challenging to maybe do an expansion or enhancement of the network. Beyond that, I think, we certainly see service providers in general be more-and-more concerned about cybersecurity, as it directly impacts their network performance and therefore their ability right to monetize it and generate revenue. So that's something we see as a more secular pattern. The CapEx obviously follows a little bit cyclical trends, but to the degree, we are relevant to them not just in the first build-out is important to us. And we continue to try to expand more things we can do with them.

Christian Schwab

Analyst

Great. Thank you. And then, congratulations on the strong capital allocation continually buying back your stock, reupping another buyback, raising the dividend, are you guys beginning to look at or explore potential M&A as a way to complement the product portfolio or expand growth potential for the company, or are we still just focused on continuing to do a great job blocking and tackling running our own business?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yeah. So I think good question. And I think as certainly you saw, we were not programmatic but kind of opportunistic as well as watching the market in such a volatile environment on the buyback, right? And therefore, having the buyback gives us that ability to respond when the timing is right. As we look at our priorities, I think, if you look at our non-GAAP spending patterns, our R&D and sales and marketing is up about 7% 8% year-over-year, while we generate productivity in G&A and other functions to do that, because our goal is -- our first priority is to invest in organic growth because that is the most efficient. When we look at our customer base around the world of about 7,000 customers in many different verticals, we think there is a fair amount of room for us to continue expanding our product portfolio and customer penetration. As we deliver more-and-more software, I think, what is not apparent is a lot of the new wins that are fueling our growth, came from innovations and releases that we've made in the last 12 to 18 months, right? So we continue to invent and add to what we do. At the same time, of course, we are, interested and open to looking at ways to accelerate our growth through inorganic means, but the filters there would have to be it has to be aligned with strategy. And second, right, it has to have the right profile on what we can deliver from a financial perspective as well. So, we of course continue to look at deals. And I have done those kind of roles before, so a high-degree of comfort in looking at them. But if we conclude organic growth is a good idea we'll keep going, till we find something better.

Christian Schwab

Analyst

Great. Congrats again on the good solid results. No other questions. Thank you.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is with Hamed Khorsand from BWS Financial. Hamed, your line is open.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

Hi. So first question was, just given the gravity of how cybersecurity is really the primary spending spot are you seeing more competition? Are you seeing a pricing compression or customers taking a long time, because there's, more new entrants in the same bid that weren't there before?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you, Hamed. Good question. So I think for us the phenomenon is, if you look at cybersecurity as a general category, there are several different segments of it, right? So you have endpoint security, identity management. And we participate in networking security. I think endpoint security is the one where you hear about hundreds of companies competing all the time with new buzzwords. That is not the sweet spot for us. Our focus is where we can take our understanding of networking traffic, implied performance impact and bring intelligence into what affects performance, what can be detected and re-mediated quickly. So in that segment I would say, certainly, we are not seeing any change in the competitive landscape. I think we see more maybe slightly positive for us as we continue to add more capabilities into that platform for our customers. There's not – I think the price compression is always there in any competitive dynamic but our goal is to manage it in a way where we are able to offset it with productivity and other measures that allow us to maintain the gross margin, right? So you can see gross margins still remain stable. So we don't see a risk where that's a concern. And lastly, I think as you talked about the deal cycle, we certainly saw some slowdown earlier in the year. But I would say those cycles are generally normalizing. It's impossible for me to predict what will happen after any announcement tomorrow from the Fed. But in advance of that I would say we certainly see our competitive positioning improving and we don't try to participate right in every focus area or vertical. We are very targeted on where we generate value where we are highly differentiated. So we don't see anything negative so far. If anything we see our position getting stronger.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

Okay. It sounds like you don't have a 10% customer anymore. Did they reduce their spending, or have they just been squeezed out with more of your other customers growing their spending with you?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes. So I think we have had a 10% customer, but typically they are like 10-point-something usually and it's not always the same one, right? And I think Brian this quarter we had one in that category. But it's not the same one every quarter.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

And given that you're saying there's no concentration of the customers, do your top five customers make up 50% of your sales or is there more diversification on that?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes. I think roughly top 10 customers make up like 35%.

Brian Becker

Analyst

Yes. It varies between quarters sometimes a larger number of customers make up a large portion of revenue depending on the cycles.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

But if you average over eight quarters that's probably kind of where it is there.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Anja Soderstrom from Sidoti. Anja, your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

All right. This is Stefan Gill [ph] on for Anja. How are you?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Hi. Welcome. Thank you.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I guess my first question is are you seeing any inflationary pressures?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes of course, you are right. So we are not immune to the normal environment. So we see inflationary pressure in shipping and logistics, warehousing, supply chain, labor, engineering, right? Of course, we are not immune to the same inflationary pressures as everyone else. I think our goal is we continue to try to offset that with productivity. And we have generally always generating new measures and ideas for how to offset that. So yes we definitely have the same pressures on materials and people cost.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you. My next question is how do you think you will fare if we basically head into a recession?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes. So I think, I would say, if you look at our product portfolio, typically the way our products are positioned is one, today where we are successful is because we are helping customers add capacity or security in the most efficient way without ripping everything and building a new network. I think that's a pretty prudent approach that a lot of CIOs and CFOs will take if they are concerned about outlook and downturn because this is still critical to their ability to operate, right? So we are not based on a value proposition of wouldn't it be nice to do X. We are in the value proposition of we need to do X, right? And I do think that when you look at the kind of growth in volume and sophistication of cyber-attacks and a lot of the kind of mandates of prescriptions around what people need to do to protect infrastructure, as well as operations, we believe that that will be one of the categories that will still be above the red line, in case of a recession. So we are very focused on, how do we create value for our customers, as they face that and that's how we plan to do it. And then of course, our global footprint helps further diversification where we don't expect all regions in the world to have the same GDP, tread line all the time.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

All right. Thank you so much for taking my questions.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Hendi Susanto from Gabelli Funds. Hendi, your line is open.

Hendi Susanto

Analyst

Good evening, Dhrupad, Brian and Rob. My first question Dhrupad, you mentioned A10, a major investment in growth opportunity. What are the areas of your major investments? In the past A10 has mentioned security subscription offerings. So would you be able to elaborate more on where you invest for organic growth opportunity?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Sure yes. So I think for us obviously as it relates to cybersecurity where we are investing is in new capabilities, whether it relates to managing encryption algorithms like SSLi products, our DNS products offering East-West protection in addition to North-South, it's a wide range of things right that we continue to add capabilities, which by the way would typically be done by a stand-alone start-up otherwise. So these are the reasons, why our customers look at us. They continue to expand, what they do and align on the roadmap. As it relates to combining security with network infrastructure, our investments are in ways to combine the best way software with the hardware to drive, lowest latency and cutting-edge performance. An example of that is, it's a long investment and program to deliver very high performance products for high frequency trading for example, right? That's -- that needs a lot of engineering. It needs a lot of innovation and research. And so our technical teams continue to drive that. So those are some examples, of where our investments are aligned with our differentiation. Our differentiation is better ability to detect and remediate cyber-attacks, and to provide the highest throughput lowest latency infrastructure.

Hendi Susanto

Analyst

Got it. And then Brian, one question is about currency. How did A10 manage the strong USD appreciation in Japan? Like do you split the currency appreciation, between A10 and customers, or like how – essentially, how do you mitigate the strong USD appreciation?

Brian Becker

Analyst

Yes. No, great question. It's been very difficult for us to navigate. Most of our customers in Japan, we do deal in Japanese yen. Given the nature of our service provider clientele in Japan, it's not surprising. I think I mentioned, that we lost revenue and deferred revenue accordingly to the magnitude of 2% in total, on both deferred and overall top line. So it was not an easy navigation that we've accomplished. But I think to Dhrupad's point, about diversification across geographies and customer verticals that allowed us to overcome some of those headwinds. But, yes, it wasn't something that we were able to escape.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Well, I mean it's 100% absorbed by A10 Hendi. And we still delivered the growth by growing faster in other regions.

Hendi Susanto

Analyst

Yes. I see. And then Brian, you may have mentioned this and I may have missed this. What is the recurring revenue by the end of the third quarter?

Brian Becker

Analyst

Yeah. No, recurring revenue is both a combination of support contracts and subscription contracts. The subscription part is a small portion of it, but it's right on our income statement about a little less than half our revenue is recurring revenue and it continues to be a pretty stable portion of our business.

Hendi Susanto

Analyst

Got it. Yeah. And then Dhrupad, will it be reasonable to assume that you are winning market shares considering the top line growth execution that you have been delivering? And then if yes, could you point out like where you believe A10 is gaining market shares?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Sure. Yeah. So I think the way internally we measure our performance and drive it is we look at market indices that tell us what the market is growing at or lead indicators of the type. Second, of course we look at our peer group and I think you guys all know those peers that we were always being asked about. So when we look at relative to the peer group revenue growth this year, year-over-year as well as if you look at market indices like Gartner IT Spending or CapEx and telcos and things like that we believe that growing at 10% to 12% represents us driving, improving commercial execution and product portfolio that helps us grow faster. So just mathematically, right, if our average peer group is growing low single-digits, we feel pretty good about it. And most importantly, when we are at customers, as we continue to replace competitors or win new business with a customer that didn't even exist before, we think that's another way for us to gain market share as well. So I think obviously you guys know well on the typical players in the space. So we feel generally pretty well that in both Enterprise and SP segment, we continue to execute well and we are making good progress.

Hendi Susanto

Analyst

Thank you, Drupad, thank you, Brian.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you, Hendi.

Brian Becker

Analyst

Thank you. End of Q&A:

Operator

Operator

That concludes our Q&A. So I would like to hand the conference back to Dhrupad for any closing remarks.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you, and thank you to all of our shareholders for joining us today and for your continued support. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

That concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.