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A10 Networks, Inc. (ATEN)

Q1 2022 Earnings Call· Tue, May 3, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, and thank you for attending today's A10 Networks Q1 2022 Earnings Call. My name is Sam, and I will be the moderator for today's call. [Operator Instructions]. At this time, I'd now like to turn the call over to our host, Rob Fink, of FNK IR. Rob, please proceed.

Rob Fink

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us today. This call is being recorded and webcasted live and may be accessed for at least 90 days via the A10 Networks website at a10networks.com. Hosting the call today are Dhrupad Trivedi, President and CEO; and CFO, Brian Becker. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that shortly after the market closed today, A10 Networks issued a press release announcing its first quarter 2022 financial results. Additionally, A10 published a presentation and supplemental trended financial statements. You may access the press release, presentation and the financial statements on the Investor Relations section of the company's website. During the course of today's call, management will make forward-looking statements, including statements regarding its projections for future operating results, including potential revenue growth, industry and customer trends, and its focus and investment in go-to-market strategy and infrastructure, our capital allocation strategy, M&A opportunities, supply chain constraints and expectations and positioning, and repurchases and dividend programs and its market share. These statements are based on current expectations and beliefs as of today, May 3, 2022. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond the company's control, such as the potential impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on its business and operations that could cause actual results to differ materially, and you should not rely on them as predictions of future results. A10 does not intend to update information contained in these forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, unless required by law. For a more detailed description of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our most recent 10-K. Please note that with the exception of revenue, financial measures today are on a non-GAAP basis and have been adjusted to exclude certain charges. The non-GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP and that may be different from non-GAAP financial measures presented by other companies. A reconciliation from GAAP and non-GAAP measures can be found in the press release that was issued today and on the trended quarterly financial statements posted on the company's website. With all that said, I'd like to turn the call over to Dhrupad. Dhrupad, the call is yours.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you, Rob, and thank you all for joining us today. Driven by continued adoption of our security-led solutions, revenue increased more than 14% year-over-year, positioning us to deliver revenue growth at the high end of our full year guidance range. As expected, we continue to see leverage in our business model with improvement in gross margin, operating income and earnings per share. We generated $15.5 million -- $15.9 million in cash from operations, ending the quarter with $164.7 million in cash and cash equivalents after repurchasing $28.3 million in stock and returning $3.9 million in cash to shareholders in the form of a dividend during the quarter. As discussed at our recent Analyst Day, we have developed a sustainable business model, and our goal is to achieve the Rule of 40, meaning a combined revenue growth and EBITDA margin of 40% or greater, in line with highly valued cybersecurity companies. The first quarter results continue to build the Hyundai Foundation and demonstrate that our model is working in spite of multiple macro headwinds. Security-led solutions continue to serve as a durable secular catalyst for our growth. We have built security into every facet of our business, helping differentiate our technology solutions with focus on customer-centric innovation that delivers business value for our clients. We all continue to see high-profile cybersecurity incidents, including recent ransomware situations impacting large technology organization here in the States, as well as the several state-sponsored cyber attacks taking place around the world, including Ukraine. Headlines about cybersecurity intrusion seem to be a weekly, if not a daily occurrence with attacks moving beyond isolated incident involving small groups or individuals through state sponsored sophisticated and large scale, targeting key infrastructure, government agencies and utility companies alike. As a result, CIOs and IT leaders are increasingly focused…

Brian Becker

Analyst

Thank you, Dhrupad. As Dhrupad mentioned, revenue in the first quarter was $62.7 million, up 14.3% year-over-year. Product revenue, which is a lead indicator for future revenues was $37 million, representing 59.1% of total revenue, up 21.3% year-over-year. Services revenue, which includes maintenance and support revenue was $25.6 million or 40.9% of total revenue. Moving to our revenue from a geographic standpoint. Revenue from the Americas, including Latin America, was $33 million, which was up 25.5%. Revenue from EMEA was $11.9 million compared to $8.6 million last year. Revenue from Asia, including Japan, was $17.8 million, down 10.8% compared to $20 million in the first quarter last year. This is inclusive of the strong headwind from foreign currency exchange rates mentioned by Dhrupad earlier. As you can see on our balance sheet, our deferred revenue was $121.3 million as of March 31, 2022. That's up 7.2% year-over-year. Please note that this is in line with typical seasonality. Recurring revenue, defined as support and subscription revenue grew 8.9% year-over-year to $27.9 million in the first quarter, which is within our target range of between 45% and 50% of revenue. With the exception of revenue, all of the metrics discussed on this call are on a non-GAAP basis unless otherwise stated. A full reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results are provided in our press release and on our website. Gross margin in the first quarter was 80.2%. As Dhrupad mentioned, thus far, we have been able to successfully mitigate the impact of industry-wide global supply chain constraints and input cost increases. Non-GAAP operating expenses in Q1 were $38.6 million compared to $32.5 million in the first quarter last year, reflecting increasing investment in our growth priorities, including cybersecurity and commercial execution. We reported $11.7 million in non-GAAP operating income compared to $10.8…

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you, Brian. The first quarter represented a strong start to the year for A10. Our position as a trusted partner with security-led solutions is helping us to deliver consistent results and outpace the market. We are well diversified in terms of product mix, regional sales and customer mix, enabling a more durable business model in spite of macro headwinds. I would also like to thank all employees, customers and shareholders of A10 for their continued support. Operator, you can now open the call up for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Christian Schwab of Craig-Hallum Capital. Christian, your line is open.

Christian Schwab

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Congratulations once again for another solid report and consistent results here. Can you help -- we -- almost every company I follow is facing some challenges in the supply chain in one way or the other, and you guys have just done a wonderful job of handling the supply chain issues. Can you help us better understand what you saw or what you've done to be able to perform at such a consistent level and then continue to raise expectations?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes, thank you, Christian. Yes, no, let me talk to that a little bit. So of course, if you look at the broader picture, our suppliers, especially on things like silicon, the same suppliers you hear about, right? So some of the things that I think have helped us mitigate this, I'll walk through some of those examples that hopefully help. So about 2, 2.5 years ago, while we started really putting in much more stringent, longer-term planning processes around supply demand, commercial initiatives and operational capabilities, etc., so that we are driving a mix in line with customer needs, but one that we can deliver. And so that was a good foundation for us to start from. Second thing, we had to do as things got harder from an input cost and delivery perspective was we took initiatives around our footprint and simplifying it as well as regionalizing it where it makes sense with our footprint, right, obviously in Japan, U.K., Taiwan and U.S. Third thing for us is, as we saw very early signs, beginning of 2020, anticipating what could be worst case scenario on sort of non-silicon components, right, we started developing at least more second sources for some of those components around the world. And last, I would say we have been much more deliberate on focusing on what portfolio is most relevant to our customers, simplifying some of our skis if we have to, but then putting ourselves in the best position to deliver, right? And so far, it has not obviously impacted our ability to deliver and we'll continue to monitor it closely and try to find new levers as we need to.

Christian Schwab

Analyst

Yes. Congratulations on that. Thanks for that clarity. I guess my last question is, in the current security environment where you guys are outperforming, can you just give us an update on, in general, who you're competing against most often? And is it different in different geographies in the Americas, say versus Japan, for example.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes. No, good question. So I think -- so I'll answer your question directly and then give you the certainty [ph] as well. So first, typically, we are competing with people who have installed footprint in the DDoS marketplace. So oftentimes, it will be someone like Arbor Networks, which is part of Netscout now. Other times, we would be competing with a broader solution, which includes many different things as well. So our service provider customers, it could be working on a solution where we are competing with some like Juniper Networks, for example, as well. It does not weigh tremendously by geography. It varies a little bit in the sense that in some of the developing nations you will see local competitors who are purely price driven. But on a -- when we look at the customer set that we target, those customers are generally looking right for high reliability and high resilience and high level of expertise versus the lowest cost, which may be true for kind of small, mid-enterprise segment, right? So by virtue of our product positioning and performance, like we are typically competing with high-end performers. And those are most often the companies that we would run into. Now it does change the landscape when we also say we are selling products for SSL encryption. We are also integrating all those products with our other product platforms, right? So when you compare it to that, there's not an apples-to-apples, but I hope that gives you a flavor for the mix we compete with.

Christian Schwab

Analyst

Yes, that's great. Congratulations on a solid quarter in this environment and raise guidance. That's it. Thank you.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you, Christian.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Christian. The next question is from Anja Soderstrom of Sidoti. Anja, your line is open.

Anja Soderstrom

Analyst

Hey, thank you for taking my question. Congratulations on the continued great results. So I'm just curious for the product gross margin, it's sort of contracted at least sequentially. What drove that? And what can we expect from that going forward?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes. No, and I think I'll let Brian comment to it more. So nothing unusual, Anja, to note on that. I think, of course, right, there is a little bit of variation with product mix and it's not a lot, it's very low that we see, slightly quarter-to-quarter. And as we look at obviously year-over-year trend, right, you will see some impact of volume if you look at sequential Q4 to Q1, obviously, right? So -- but if you move Q1 to Q1, right, you can see that trend line. And within that margin, obviously, we are also absorbing or accommodating all the input cost inflation in the market right now, like whether it's from FedEx or chip suppliers, right? So we think net inclusive of those impacts as well as product mix is kind of where we end up. And Brian, anything add.

Brian Becker

Analyst

Yes, that's exactly. Our product gross margins are relatively consistent while fluctuating very slightly, it's really just a matter of the mix of products and services that we're selling.

Anja Soderstrom

Analyst

Okay, and then in terms of input cost inflation and I would also assume to some extent, labor, including labor cost, how are you able to mitigate that?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Sure, yes. So, I think that there are several things we have been doing right. So those obviously are -- continue to be relevant to us. So in the last several quarters we have continued to simplify the business, continue to address things that were structural things we could do to get better cost structure in place. And we obviously had initiatives in place around PPV and logistics and things like that, that ultimately have ended up being required just to offset the input cost, right? So those have been -- things we put into place several quarters ago as a goal towards continuing to improve our portfolio and margin. And a lot of those have helped us offset kind of cost inflation. On labor and operations cost inflation, obviously we face the same phenomenon. But as I think we noted a little bit on the Analyst Day, as a company I also focus a lot on delivering productivity that helps us offset some of those inflationary costs, right? So not 100%, but that has helped us offset those, whether it's on materials, operations or people side.

Anja Soderstrom

Analyst

Okay, that was helpful. And then in terms of, I mean, it looks like the Americas was very strong for you. What are you seeing in Europe given the geopolitical environment here and the increased sort of cyber work that's gone on there?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes, so I think we talked about it, right. So far as EMEA, grew year-over-year. I think we are seeing 2 things, right? So one is, we don't have any direct impact from the conflict there. So that's not relevant to us either plus or minus. But what we are seeing is 2 things. One, as people become more conscious of cybersecurity, whether it's a budgeted topic or not, there is increased importance in doing more to protect themselves. And we are beginning to see that activity and typical sales cycle is 6 to 9 months, right? So we do expect that to result in more people prioritizing cybersecurity in their budget. We see a little bit of hesitation because customers are uncertain, right, of the outlook and economy and what can happen. But I think what we see as more interest and importance of cybersecurity is higher than the uncertainty that is causing them to be worried right now.

Anja Soderstrom

Analyst

And how sensitive do you think you are to sort of a flat economy and inflation. I mean, it seems like you have a pretty critical solution, right?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes. No, that's right, that's right. So I think that's exactly well, Anja. So for us, cybersecurity we see it as leading with that. And by the way also all our products around network build-out and throughput and data management are very strong secular trends, right? So whether inflation is slightly up or slightly down, people are still going to use the Internet and want to be more secure. And as they see more public incidents, right, it raises the awareness as well. I think more on the mid-enterprise side you would see cautioned with interest rates and economy slowdown about initiatives that were more about the things like digital transformation or doing all of those ambitious IT projects, right, where cybersecurity is a more urgent and critical need. So we certainly see that as a more secular phenomenon right now.

Anja Soderstrom

Analyst

Okay, thank you. That was all for me.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from Hamed Khorsand of BWS. Hamed, your line is open.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

So first question was, given that security is about a 6 to 9-month lead time, what is the conversation that starts now? I mean, how are you doing the promotions? Is it all security-related even for service providers?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

It's -- yes, so I think typically -- I mean, obviously, one of the things in cybersecurity, right, for every incident that is public, there's a lot more things the company see that are not public, right? So they are themselves obviously also seeing different ways, they are trying to be attacked and compromised on data. So the [indiscernible] for us is more about having more secure integrated infrastructure that is more, so for a mobile carrier it would be, you have so many subscribers, you want to now have so many more and you want to offer these new revenue services. Here is how we can help you do that with your infrastructure and make you more secure. Or it could be as they are seeing more and more cyber attacks, right, we work with them to develop and deploy something like the Zero Trust framework, which is not only our product, right? That includes things outside of what we do. But as a trusted adviser, work with them to say, here's what you should monitor and we publish a lot of threat intelligence, which talks about the kinds of threats we see and how people can mitigate remediate. So a lot of it is around being seen first as a trusted expert in security, but at the same time being able to deliver that with the network infrastructure build-out that also gives them lower capex and opex, right, as it relates to data management. So it's -- without getting very specific, Hamed, obviously, we have specific commercial initiatives that focus on if there is a new infrastructure build, how can those customers benefit from it. If there are new types of cyberattacks we are seeing, how do we advise our customers and when they choose to spend money, they might spend it with us, right? So there's -- we typically, at any point in time would have 3 most and occasionally I would prefer 2 very clear commercial initiatives around what is happening, what is most relevant to our customers, and how do we solve that problem versus product we got right.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

Okay, and then given that there's no COVID restrictions in markets, is this a proper sales and marketing expense for you going forward? Are you looking to attend more conferences and so forth where you could spend more on sales and marketing?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes, I think if you look at it on a trended basis, Hamed, I think the way to look at it is compared to last year we certainly see a resumption of sales and marketing, travel and activities. I think it's not going to go back to 100% of what it was a few years ago, but maybe 70%, 75%. And so you can see that reflected right in our sales and marketing now reflects some amount per quarter that relates to that discretionary spending that had stopped, but hopefully its towards lead generation, right? So then it's okay. The only other way I think sales and marketing to think about is on incremental revenue, obviously, right, we will incur the variable sales expense as we grow that. So while we get some obviously productivity as well, we also expect with increasing revenue variable sales compensation goes up and on a year-over-year basis, travel and entertainment and event spending goes up on a year-over-year basis, roughly $2 million a year.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

Okay, D&A, 10% [ph] customers this quarter?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

We had one.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

And then my last question was, are you winning large deals or are they pretty much in the smaller range in the sales side?

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

It's both, right? I mean,so I think if you look at our average deal size, it may be 100,000 maybe, but there are deals that are 20,000, and there are deals that are several million, right? So a lot of these deals progress, right? So typically, we will get a first deal that's a one location, one site and then they deploy it, they try it out and then they add so many more. So it's a progression and even within an existing customer. So our first deal will not be the biggest deal, but they will typically continue delivering revenue every year, right?

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Yes, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Hamed. Next question is from Hendi Susanto of Gabelli. Hendi, your line is open.

Hendi Susanto

Analyst

Good afternoon, Dhrupad and Brian. Congrats on strong Q1.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you, Hendi. Dhrupad, some companies talk about longer lead times and then a stronger order visibility that gives higher convictions on the pipeline and the continued strength throughout 2022. Can you talk about order visibility and your conviction on the pipeline? Yes, no, sure. So I think for us, as I think we have continued to refine our processes. We typically look at our sales forecast, our outlook on revenue from several different points of view, one of which would be our own 12-month funnel, 3 months, 9-month funnel, etc., and understanding of the rates at which those translate? Second is we obviously look at market lead indicators, not necessarily what happened last quarter and how those lead indicators, whether it's got net IT spending on cybersecurity, capex, delta, etc., etc. So that's a second thing we look at. And there's a couple of other factors, right? So we look at multiple factors when we think of outlook and what we commit. And you can see right, hopefully we have demonstrated some consistency on that front. I would say lead times are extending from our suppliers. I think our customers are generally, of course, concerned about that. But our outlook when you think of Q2 or full year is not based on any specific customer orders or things like that. It's based on our engagement, the deal visibility we have, and we talk about, obviously cycle time is roughly 6 to 9 months, right? So we should have a pretty good perspective on that versus be surprised with 1 month to go. And so we look at multitude of those factors. And so for us, I would say visibility is -- I think we talked about the headwinds and tailwinds, right? So things that are giving us a little…

Hendi Susanto

Analyst

Thank you, Dhrupad. Thank you, Brian.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thanks, Hendi.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Hendi. There are no further questions waiting at this time. So I'd like to turn the call back over to Dhrupad for any closing remarks.

Dhrupad Trivedi

Analyst

Thank you, and thanks to all of our shareholders for joining us today and for your continued ongoing support of A10. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

That concludes the A10 Networks Q1 2022 Earnings Call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.