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Amtech Systems, Inc. (ASYS)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 6, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Amtech Systems' First Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa Gibbs, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Lisa Gibbs

Analyst

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us for Amtech Systems' first quarter fiscal year 2020 results conference call. With me on the call today are J.S. Whang, Amtech's Executive Chairman; Michael Whang, our Chief Executive Officer; and Robert Hass, our Executive Vice President. Today, Amtech released its financial results for the first quarter of fiscal 2020. That earnings release will be posted on the Company's website at amtechsystems.com. During today's call, management will make forward-looking statements. All such forward-looking statements are based on information available to us as of this date, and we assume no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. These statements are not a guarantee of future performance, and actual results could differ materially from current expectations. Among the important factors which could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements are changes in the technologies used by our customers and competitors; change in volatility and the demand for our products; the effect of changing worldwide political and economic conditions, including trade sanctions; the effect of overall market conditions, including the equity and credit markets and market acceptance risks; and our capital allocation plans. Other risk factors are detailed in our Securities and Exchange Commission filings, including our Form 10-K and Forms 10-Q. I will now turn the call over to Robert Hass, our Executive Vice President. Robert?

Robert Hass

Analyst

Thank you, Lisa. On January 28, 2020, we announced the sale of our shares of Tempress Group Holding B.V. to an independent foundation. I would like to provide some additional details on the foundation structure and why the sale of Tempress to the foundation was in the best interest for Amtech and our shareholders. The Foundation, Stichting Continuiteit Tempress, is an independent legal entity formed under Dutch law and created for the sole benefit of the employees, customers and suppliers of Tempress. The foundation is governed by an independent Board with restructuring expertise and no affiliation with Amtech. The foundation is a stand-alone entity with no shareholders, partners or members. Effective with the closing of the sale of Tempress, Amtech no longer has any financial interest in the future losses or profits of Tempress or the Foundation, and has no further involvement or connection with and no control over the Foundation, other than the right to receive loan repayments upon occurrence of certain events and receive limited information from the Foundation pursuant to the covenants set forth in the term loan agreement with Tempress. Our objectives in selling Tempress were to stop the losses resulting from our solar operations, which were over $10 million in 2019 alone, and to dedicate our internal resources to our power semiconductor strategy without the continuing distraction of the solar operations and its losses. As we stated in the press release, we went through a robust sales process with an independent financial adviser that spanned nearly one year. And the parties who emerged as potential buyers offered terms that were unfavorable to us and most required a large cash infusion from Amtech. We evaluated these offers along with other options, which included keeping Tempress and restructure it ourselves in preparation for another sales attempt, wind…

Jong Whang

Analyst

Thank you, Robert. Thank you for joining our call today. We look to the future 100% focused on our semiconductor business and the opportunities they present as the solar business is now behind us. In line with that, our Board has decided that it is the right time to promote Michael Whang, previously Chief Operating Officer, to Chief Executive Officer of Amtech. Michael has been overseeing U.S. semiconductor businesses and has in-depth knowledge of power semiconductor and silicon carbide markets we serve. He has worked side-by-side with the leadership of our semiconductor divisions, has ongoing discussions with our customers regarding their forward needs and has been instrumental in developing our power semiconductor and silicon carbide strategic growth plan, our roadmap to future successes. As the Executive Chairman, I look forward to working with the Michael to capitalize on the growth opportunities in front of us. In the January 28 press release, we also announced the retirement of Robert Hass, who many of you have spoken with over time. Robert contributed much to Amtech over his 27 years with the Company. And I speak for the entire Amtech team as we wish him the very best in his retirement. I will now turn the call to Michael Whang, our Chief Executive Officer. Michael?

Michael Whang

Analyst

Thank you, J.S. With the completion of our solar divestiture, we can now focus our full and diligent attention on our semiconductor and silicon carbide businesses and the growth opportunities they present. We have well-recognized brands, great products, distinguished role technologies, dedicated and talented employees and excellent service capabilities. We have a diverse global customer base of market leaders with attractive long-term growth profiles. We are on a very exciting path. We are focused on new product development to drive and sustain organic growth. We look to continue to evaluate strategic acquisitions to expand our product and technology portfolios and build upon our strengths in areas that we believe will outgrow the overall semi market. We are diligently focused on continuous improvement as we invest in capacity expansion, our people, our technologies and our management systems. While we are pleased that our first quarter performance exceeded our expectations, we continue to look to the second half of 2020 for solid growth to return in the industry. We are confident that we have very strong platforms to deliver value-enhancing results in an improving operating environment. BTU is a solid consistently profitable business with a worldwide customer base and diversified back-end semi product portfolio that supports many end markets and touches all key geographies. We look to grow through deeper penetration of our markets, product development as well as by highly selective acquisitions to advance or expand our capabilities. We have never ending focus on product development. In November 2019, BTU featured Aqua Scrub. Our patent-pending technology at a trade show in Munich, and again, just this week in San Diego at the APEX trade show. There was strong interest in its capabilities to deal with flux management in a more efficient way. In addition to Aqua Scrub, in San Diego, the…

Lisa Gibbs

Analyst

Thank you, Michael. Net revenues increased slightly compared to the preceding quarter and decreased 11% from the first quarter of fiscal 2019. Semiconductor revenue in fiscal Q1 2020 includes the shipment of our 300-millimeter diffusion furnace to a new top-tier power semiconductor customer, which contributed to the sequential increase in revenue. Semiconductor revenue decreased compared to the prior year quarter due primarily to lower diffusion furnace shipments. Silicon carbide/LED revenue decreased sequentially due primarily to lower machine shipments and was relatively flat compared to the prior year quarter. At December 31, 2019, our total backlog was $13.4 million, a decrease from a backlog of $15.9 million at September 30, 2019, which is adjusted to exclude R2D. The decrease is due primarily to shipments of our 300-millimeter HCR diffusion furnace and other shipments that were not immediately replaced with new orders. Backlog includes customer orders that are expected to ship within the next 12 months. Gross margin increased in the first quarter of fiscal 2020 compared to the prior year quarter, primarily due to a favorable product mix, while decreasing on a sequential basis primarily due to a higher-margin product mix in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2019. Selling, general and administrative expense, or SG&A, in the first quarter of fiscal 2020 was $5.9 million compared to $6.1 million in the preceding quarter and $6.6 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2019. Sequentially, SG&A decreased due primarily to lower employee-related expenses partially offset by higher legal fees related to our solar divestitures. SG&A decreased compared to the prior year quarter with the prior year quarter including legal and other costs relating to the departure of our former CEO, and in the current period, lower commissions on lower diffusion furnace sales partially offset by increased legal expenses relating to our solar…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from Craig Irwin with ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Craig Irwin

Analyst

Hi, good evening, and thanks for taking my questions. So as we look down the runway in 2020. I know there are a number of sort of external factors that cloud visibility a little bit. But you did make the strategic decision in the last few months to move Hoffman to a new space. Can you maybe describe what you see as the visibility for increased sales out of Hoffman, both on the equipment and the consumables side? What do you see as the primary drivers there? And are there any other points of diversification in that business that supported your decision to increase your commitment?

Michael Whang

Analyst

Hi Craig, this is Mike. Thanks for your call. When we look forward into the later part of this year, and then also 2021, we still see significant growth drivers from Hoffman's customer base. If you follow all the leading SiC wafer manufacturers, they all have very large considerable planned capacity expansions. And quite a few of them are also running through or experiencing the same headwinds that we are facing today. So in some sense, we are tied to the CapEx expansion of these large players. However, we're still very bullish on the long-term demand for silicon carbide devices, wafers. The forward-looking applications are there. There is a real demand for it, unlike solar, which was heavily subsized. I'm very excited. This has been a long time that I felt this excitement in our future prospects.

Craig Irwin

Analyst

Okay. That's really good to hear. So then there's the expectation that there will be between three and five major fabs built for silicon carbide devices over the next – single-digit number, yes, small single-digit number, hopefully. Can you maybe describe for us what the potential content is for your diffusion process in a typical semiconductor plant? How we should look at that for conventional silicon-based power semiconductors versus silicon carbide? And do you see potentially a greater opportunity still serving the silicon demand given that the world is still really short MOSFETs and IGBTs.

Michael Whang

Analyst

So in terms of silicon carbide devices, we currently have no say with our fusion furnace right now. I want to make that clear. However, for silicon-based power ICs, and also just general power chips, we do see a growing trend to move from 8-inch to 12-inch. The economics are there. The current leader, Infineon, has shown the value of that economics and more and more of our Tier 1 customers are either, at the very least, investigating it or asking for budgetary quotes to move into 12-inch power chip manufacturing. For silicon carbide, all of that is dependent on the SiC wafer manufacturers and their capacity expansion for the substrates. And so we're preparing ourselves with the new facility. We're working on some new products. And where we stand right now is that as long as we execute, and we are executing, we're going to meet their next CapEx cycle that's expected towards, we believe, the end of this year.

Craig Irwin

Analyst

Excellent. Excellent. And then last question, if I may? Your $53 million in cash, give or take, is a pretty nice war chest now that you've completed your restructuring. It allows you to look towards investment for the future. Would you be more likely to invest in new products and new business initiatives organically? Or do you consider Amtech to be in an acquisitive mode where you could potentially acquire competitors or adjacent products, adjacent technologies that supplement the existing portfolio?

Michael Whang

Analyst

So Craig, that's going to be a combination of both. We have to make investments in organic growth. I will remind everyone and you that when we focus on solar for many years, we neglected our U.S. semi operations. And now we have to catch-up and also be very competitive with our peers. Also, from an acquisition standpoint, we are constantly and recently looking at opportunities, either direct acquisitions that fit well within our value chain or adjacent. And acquisitions have been in Amtech's DNA. We've gone through several, and we've been successful.

Craig Irwin

Analyst

Excellent. That's good to hear. Well, keep up the solid execution and we look forward to continue progress.

Michael Whang

Analyst

Thanks, Craig.

Lisa Gibbs

Analyst

Thank you, Craig.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Jeff Osborne of Cowen and Company. Please go ahead.

Jeffrey Osborne

Analyst

Hey, good afternoon, guys. Craig asked most of the questions that I had in mind. But could you just level-set us on China and corona? What your headcount is there in terms of staffing as a percentage of the total? And then revenue exposed either directly or indirectly as you sort of formulated the guidance?

Michael Whang

Analyst

So I'll try to answer that, Jeff. So we have approximately 175 to 200 employees in our Shanghai factory for BTU. Shanghai provides the majority of our reflow oven revenue. So there is a great amount of uncertainty right now. We've never faced this. The only thing that I vaguely remember now was the H1N1 outbreak back in 2009. And I don't remember, unfortunately, how we cope with that. So we're navigating through unchartered waters. Thankfully, all of our employees and our partners are in good health and in good condition. They're itching to get back to work. Outside of what Lisa mentioned, we're just keeping an eye out for any changes. The expectation right now is we will start resuming operations after – or the February 10.

Lisa Gibbs

Analyst

Yes, on Monday. So Jeff, we looked at a number of different models and how this could impact and to a wide end, as Mike mentioned, our revenue range for our outlook. And we'll just watch it closely. And if we certainly hope February is more productive and better than we anticipate, there's a material update to provide. We will do so.

Jeffrey Osborne

Analyst

Makes sense, completely understandable. Maybe just following up on one of Craig's other questions around PR Hoffman. And you mentioned, Michael, the visibility that your customers have in terms of multiyear expansions of 5x, 10x, 30x in some cases of expansion of capacity. Can you just give us some insight into the conversations around – you mentioned quoting activity has picked up for PR Hoffman. Is the intent of your customers and your relationship with them to have this be a one-off every three to six months purchasing cycle? Or is there any sort of sitting down and coming up with a master plan over multiple years of – here's the number of polishing tools we'll need over a multiple iterative process to avoid one-off negotiations. I'm just trying to get a sense of how strategic you are as part of that process, if at all?

Michael Whang

Analyst

So we've had a number of discussions with our leading customers and SiC in terms of consumables and machines. They've been, unfortunately for us, coy on the exact nature and timing of their expansion, other than just giving kind of like one-liners like "be prepared." This is what we need, right? We are heavily invested in our future capacity expansion. So in terms of aligning with them, we – they tell us where to go, and we follow that they have certain needs, and they're different across each customers. And then we find a path to provide a very competitive solution for them. As time goes on, I do predict there'll be more closer discussions in terms of exact timing and nature. But outside of that, I'm not at liberty right now to say anything more.

Jeffrey Osborne

Analyst

Makes sense. May be just one follow-up on that. Hopefully, you can answer. But with the quotes today, you alluded to better visibility in the second half of the year on broader semiconductor applications. I assume silicon carbide is in that. Is there a reasonable lag of sort of two quarters from a quote today to when you would record revenue or what historically in the SiC/LED segment has that delta been?

Michael Whang

Analyst

Yes. I would safely say is, it will be approximately two quarters worth of lag.

Jeffrey Osborne

Analyst

Okay, that's all I had. Thank you.

Lisa Gibbs

Analyst

Okay. Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will come from Mark Miller with The Benchmark Company. Please go ahead.

Mark Miller

Analyst

Just wondering if you can give us any insights about OpEx and tax benefit in the March quarter?

Lisa Gibbs

Analyst

I think that we'll still continue to have some legal fees within this quarter. So I would expect OpEx to remain fairly flat. The tax situation, it will depend on where our income is generated in terms of foreign jurisdictions, but we will be able to continue to offset our U.S. income like we did this quarter.

Mark Miller

Analyst

Okay. What was cash flow from operations in the December quarter?

Lisa Gibbs

Analyst

Cash flow from operations in the December quarter. I'm pulling that right now. It looks like it was just negative $168,000.

Mark Miller

Analyst

Was there any CapEx in the quarter?

Lisa Gibbs

Analyst

There is some CapEx in there, a little bit of picking the odds.

Mark Miller

Analyst

Thank you.

Lisa Gibbs

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Lisa Gibbs for any closing remarks. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Lisa Gibbs

Analyst

Thank you for your time today and for your interest in Amtech. This concludes today's call.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.