Becky Weyenberg
Management
Oh, certainly, Certainly, we had - we've seen some softness in MS but we don't expect that to continue. We are seeing signs that that will come back. And part of that comes from the fact that on our Infrastructure Solutions side of the house, we are largely direct sales. So we don't have the same pressures from - we don't internally have the same pressures from interest rates. Certainly our customers do, but we have some pretty large customers, that can weather these storms a little bit more than we can at our size. But on the dealer sales channel, that's where we're seeing the most pressure. And if interest rates come down, I think everybody can read what's out there the same as I can, but we expect maybe one or two cuts to come next year. If that happens - we're not, we're not banking on it, but if that happens, then that'll give some confidence to our dealer network and they'll be able to carry some more inventory. Right now, they're kind of wait and see. They want to see that these rentals convert, but certainly we were pretty pleased, every single quarter this year we had above 23% gross margin and we know that we can do better than that as we saw in Q4, so if we can get the sales, we feel pretty strong that we have a runway to expand both gross margins as well as EBITDA and profit margins going forward. We're also very confident in our programs that we're rolling out, the return on our invested capital grew quite a bit this year, finishing the year at 9.9%. So we know that we're tracking very well with our programs that we're spending money on and we make sure that they hit our metrics for approval. So we do see quite a bit of opportunity, and Jaco mentioned this as well, the other point that gives us confidence is our ability to increase our parts fill rates. We should never have parts in backlog, so that is part of our drop in backlog. We are turning parts' orders at a regular routine. We want to satisfy the customer in 24 hours when possible, a little bit longer if we have to manufacture something that's, on older equipment, but we've seen very good progress there and - but we're not where we want to be, so we'll continue to focus on that and that should also give us some room for expansion.