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Q3 2023 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 3, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. Thank you for attending Aspen Aerogels, Inc. Q3 2023 Financial Results Call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity to questions and answers at the end. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Neal Baranosky, Aspen’s Senior Director of Corporate Strategy and Finance. Thank you. You may proceed, Mr. Baranosky.

Neal Baranosky

Management

Thank you, Elliot. Good morning, and thank you for joining us for the Aspen Aerogels fiscal year 2023 third quarter financial results conference call. With us today are Don Young, President and CEO; and Ricardo Rodriguez, Chief Financial Officer. There are a few housekeeping items that I would like to address before turning the call over to Don. The press release announcing Aspen’s financial results and business developments as well as a reconciliation of management’s use of non-GAAP financial measures compared to the most applicable U.S. generally accepted accounting principles, or GAAP measures, is available on the Investors section of Aspen’s website, www.aerogel.com. In addition, I’d like to highlight that we have uploaded to our website a slide deck that will accompany our conversation today. You can find the deck at the Investors section of our website. On today’s call, management will make forward-looking statements about our expectations. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially. These risks and uncertainties include the factors identified in our filings with the SEC. Please review the disclaimer statements on Pages 1 and 2 of the slide deck, as the content of our call will be governed by this language. During this call, we will refer to non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA. These financial measures are not prepared in accordance with GAAP. These non-GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. The definitions and reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures and a discussion of why we present these non-GAAP financial measures are included in yesterday’s press release. And one final note, during the Q&A session, in the interest of time, we ask that you limit your questions to two questions at a time. If you have additional questions beyond the initial two, please get back into the queue and we will get to all questions. I’ll now turn the call over to Don. Don?

Don Young

Management

Thanks, Neal. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our Q3 2023 earnings call. My initial comments will highlight our Q3 performance and Q4 outlook, the status and impact of several critical elements of our strategy and our EV OEM development pipeline. Ricardo will dig deeper into our financial performance and our business strategy. Ricardo and I will expand upon last week’s announcement related to our upgraded revenue and adjusted EBITDA outlook for 2023 and the addition of Audi and Scania to our list of OEM design awards. We will conclude with a Q&A session. Q3 revenue was a record at over $60 million. PyroThin thermal barrier revenue was $33 million, surpassing that of energy industrial of our energy industrial business for the first time. We believe PyroThin thermal barrier revenue for the second half of 2023 will be 3 or 4 times larger than it was for the first half of the year. Gross profit for the second half of 2023 will be 2 or 3 times larger than for the first half of the year. Energy Industrial activity remains strong while the team manages through a supply constrained period as we shift Plant 1 to produce PyroThin thermal barriers and, quote, test the system of our planned supplemental supply for Energy Industrial. We are making good progress on both initiatives. In addition to the ramping of the PyroThin thermal barrier business, a highlight for Q3 is the continued progression of our gross margins through 2023, 11% in Q1, 17% in Q2, 23% in Q3. We anticipate continued gross margin expansion in Q4 as we progress on the path to achieving our targeted 35% gross margin. Based on our Q3 performance and current momentum, on October 24, we announced a revenue outlook of at least $225 million,…

Ricardo Rodriguez

Management

Thank you, Don, and good morning, everyone. I’ll start by covering our third quarter and year-to-date results before moving on to the 2023 outlook and then handing the call back to Don. For this quarterly call, I don’t have any meaningful strategic updates to cover, and I’m happy to simply focus on reporting our results. With the third quarter representing an important transition period towards higher revenue run rate levels that enable meaningful reductions in our operating losses. Our strategy is also yielding positive developments in our commercial pipeline, such as the recent conversion of the LOI from Audi into an award, and our gearing up of production to begin supplying Scania at higher volumes next year. As Don mentioned, we feel confident in our ability to receive additional OEM awards as we focus on delivering results with our existing assets. To cover our performance, I’ll start on Slide 4 beginning with revenues. We delivered $60.8 million of revenue in Q3, which translates into 66% growth year-over-year and 26% growth quarter-over-quarter. As Don mentioned, this was an all time company record. We didn’t suffer any supply disruptions, thanks to the team’s efforts over the past 12 months in Rhode Island and Mexico to preemptively manage our supply chain. Year-to-date, we have delivered $154.5 million of revenue, which reflects a 28% year-over-year increase. Year-to-date, energy industrial revenues were $97.3 million, an 8% year-over-year increase. Given our limited aerogel production capacity in Q3, we continued to focus on optimizing our energy industrial product mix to lighten the load on our operations by making those products that require the least standard hours of processing and deliver $27.9 million in sales, reflecting a 21% quarterly decrease and a 13% year-over-year increase. As we’ve previously mentioned, our energy business is sold out. We have a…

Don Young

Management

Thank you, Ricardo. We have covered a significant amount of ground today in reviewing Q3 and our near-term outlook. Before we move to Q&A, I would like to emphasize our focus on driving significant profitability from our existing resources and opportunities. We believe the near-term business profile as we have it constructed and again consistent with our current assets and commercial opportunities has the potential to produce on an annual basis approximately $550 million of revenue, approximately $200 million of gross profit, and approximately $140 million of EBITDA. We believe Q4 will be the next significant step towards this level of business performance. At the same time, we believe that we maintain our full longer term upside potential as we continue to win design awards from EV OEMs to expand our profitable base load of energy industrial revenue and to leverage our aerogel technology platform into additional high value markets, including our ongoing work in battery materials. The key point is that we are seeking to avoid unnecessary dilution for our shareholders by optimizing the use of our existing assets and opportunities to create a dynamic and cash generating business. With that, we welcome the Q&A session.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question today comes from Colin Rusch with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.

Colin Rusch

Analyst

Thanks so much, guys. With the cadence of these incremental wins and the start of production, can you talk a little bit about the dynamics around sell in to just fill the channel and get these guys supplied up to start production and how much actual sell through you’re seeing on the vehicles at this point.

Don Young

Management

Sorry, Colin, maybe just to clarify, so sell through on the end of General Motors specifically, or is this more related to additional OEMs?

Colin Rusch

Analyst

The dynamic we’re trying to get after is how much of the growth is really coming from selling into the OEMs. And as you have an incremental cadence of new program wins, there’s going to be growth to support the production. But there’s a lot of concern around how these vehicles are selling and potential stagnation in terms of growth at some point. So that’s the dynamic we’re trying to get after.

Don Young

Management

Yes. I mean, I think there’s sort of two parts to thinking about this one, right? I mean, we’ve known that some of these EVs have been sitting in lots for over a year at this point, right. And we factor that into our conservativism as we factor in the volume plans, not only when we are making our own plans, but also when we’re quoting these opportunities. And when it comes to Ultium specifically, it’s a little tough to assess how close General Motors is to hitting the demand limit when they only produced, we estimate around 14,000 vehicles in Q3. And there’s roughly 3,000 to 4,000 Chevy dealers in North America. And that doesn’t even come close to getting up to the limits of consumer demand for these vehicles. So we do think that GM has ways to go in terms of ramping up production before they start to see any limit on consumer demand. Now, as we look at additional opportunities, kind of going to the second part of the question, I mean, we – in the same way as we plan the ramp from GM, and we truly have learned a lot through the delays with GM’s ramp on how to deploy capital in these opportunities, how to design the processes to execute them. And we apply a very similar level of discounting to some of these opportunities in 2025 and 2026 that we’re being awarded here in the near-term. And it’s worth noting that, once an OEM puts together a sourcing package for a vehicle that is two to three years away, a lot of work has already been done and a lot of investment has already been made. And so we do feel pretty good about our ability to get more wins for this 2025 and 2026 time frame. Now, additional programs, I think for that 2027 and 2028 timeframe, we do expect that to continue being retimed and frankly, see the recent news of some retimed EV investments as something that was kind of inevitable, just given everyone’s cost of capital. And we were surprised that it actually took this long to ratchet back some of these investment expectations. But we still feel very good about the opportunities that we have in the horizon for 2025, 2026. And even if we go back to our plans in 2021, we have not had to adjust those downward based on what we’re seeing.

Ricardo Rodriguez

Management

Colin, I would just add, I think the momentum that we’ve had moving from Q2 to Q3, I think you’ll see that momentum continue for us here as we move into Q4 into the new year.

Colin Rusch

Analyst

That’s super helpful. Thanks so much, guys. And then as you work through contracting on new product wins with these new customers, the value of both mechanical and the thermal performance of the material is becoming really well understood. I guess, I’m curious about any potential for price leverage on your part or at least price preservation, even as you get into higher volumes with some of these customers, given that mechanical performance.

Don Young

Management

Yes. I mean, for us, it’s really not just about the underlying merits of the material and the critical problems that it solves, but also the amount of capital that we’ve deployed and that we will continue to cautiously deploy here and an emphasis on paying it back, right. So we will manage pricing in a way that kind of come hell or high water, we really align with the gearing that we’ve presented here on Slide 6, for example, right. I mean, we want all programs and all sales that we execute here to not pull us away from this path of getting 35% gross profit margins, and we’ll manage pricing to do that.

Colin Rusch

Analyst

Thanks so much, guys.

Don Young

Management

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

We now turn to Eric Stine with Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Hi, Don. Hi, Ricardo.

Ricardo Rodriguez

Management

Hi, Eric.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Hey. Good morning. So maybe for me, I know in the past you had talked about that $550 million run rate, 25% EBITDA margin, and very good slide appreciate that, that you gave this morning. I think previously you’d said thought that was possible in the next four to six quarters. And I know you’re managing the contract manufacturer and ramping things up and you’re constrained in EI and all of that. Is that still something that you see as possible on a run rate basis by, I guess, your expectation had been 3Q of 2024.

Ricardo Rodriguez

Management

It’s not unlikely, I mean, we actually included a slide in the back for everyone’s benefit on. If you just look at GM alone and the ramp that they’re in, right, so kind of in spite of the headlines, if you just look at the IHS ramp and if you see GM’s intended ramp, it’s even higher than this. But there’s the potential for them to just continuing doubling production every quarter for at least two more quarters, right. And the implications of that on our revenue run rate, supplemented by the supply from China for our Energy Industrial business, put us on this path to be able to get there. Now, whether it happens in Q2, Q3, Q4, we’re just cautiously managing it. But we do see it as something that is still possible.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Understood. Yes. Just making sure that’s still kind of the expectation that is helpful. And then maybe for my follow-up, maybe just an update on the DOE loan that you’re in the mix for. I know previously you’d talked about potentially hearing kind of next steps by year end and the expectation that if you’re invited for further diligence, that’s a great sign towards the eventual award or possible award. Just curious if that’s still the view.

Don Young

Management

Thank you, Eric. Yes. The DOE – the LPO process, we continue to be closely engaged with the LPO office and the team, if you will, on that side of the table and working very closely with them. Our team’s doing a great job. I think we’re putting our best foot forward. And of course, it’s always an unpredictable process. But we do believe that we’re on that timeline that we outlined earlier, and we hope to be able to keep you posted on that here as we work our way through Q4.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Don Young

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We now turn to Alex Potter with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Alex Potter

Analyst

Great. Thanks, guys. So I was wondering just maybe obviously, you’re working on the contract manufacturing avenue with your partner in China. Any update you can give on how that’s progressing? What gives you confidence that everything is on track and on time?

Don Young

Management

Well, again, we’re impressed by them. We’re working very closely. It’s a matter of qualifying our products, setting up the supply chain, the logistics, working with our energy industrial customers. And it’s going very well. And we have said that we will test the system here over the course of 2023, and we’re doing just that now, and that it should be up and contributing at the early part of 2024. And Alex, we’re right on that path. So we’re confident. We’re impressed by the work that we’re doing together with our supplemental supplier and again, right on track.

Alex Potter

Analyst

Okay, that’s great to hear. And then the second question I had was on the PyroThin volume that you’re selling into GM for the Ultium product. Just kind of curious, are they putting PyroThin themselves in their own inventory or are they taking it from you putting it directly into a vehicle and pushing the vehicle out? I’m just trying to understand, obviously, you’re producing, you sell to them. But I don’t know if just I guess trying to gauge whether there’s the potential for inventory buildup or shortages at any point between you GM and then downstream of GM.

Don Young

Management

Yes. I mean, I think the best way to think about it is that it’s fair to say that a part that we’re making in Mexico right now probably won’t find its way into a finished vehicle for about a month. And so when the ramp is as significant as what we’re seeing right, looking at the 14,000 vehicles, Ultium based vehicles that we believe GM built in Q3 isn’t totally enough to explain our revenues, right. If you take our revenues divided by 14,000, you end up with a CPV that’s way higher than what’s actually there. And so GM is building up a decent amount of inventory here to enable the ramp. And from what we understand, I mean, they’ve been hand to mouth here during Q3. And we’ll have to see really kind of going back to Colin’s question on, we’ll see how long these vehicles then spend on the lot to translate that into ultimate sales for GM. But we do see about a one month delay, which kind of gives us the chance to recognize revenues and build revenues of a month ahead of the end of the quarter, right.

Alex Potter

Analyst

Okay, got it. Thanks. That’s very helpful. I’ll pass it on.

Don Young

Management

Thank you.

Alex Potter

Analyst

Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jeff Osborne with TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Jeff Osborne

Analyst · TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Thank you. Good morning. Two quick ones on my side. I was curious on the Audi win, that’s great to see. Is that part of a broader program as part of the VW family that maybe is just starting with one vehicle in 2024? Any help there would be helpful because I thought you were targeting more pack designs across multiple vehicles as opposed to a one off. So understanding that would be helpful. And then any other updates that you could share on the battery materials side of the business. You haven’t talked about that in a few quarters, but I’m just curious how that’s progressing would be also helpful to understand.

Ricardo Rodriguez

Management

Yes. So I’m happy to jump in on the first one there, Jeff. Yes. So the Audi program is an electric vehicle platform, which means that multiple different Audi nameplates could be based on this platform.

Don Young

Management

And then on the battery material side, we continue to work on advancing the technology and we are endeavoring to solve a hard problem. And we are making, I think steady and interesting progress on that. We’ve kept quiet on it to a great degree on purpose as we’ve continued to advance that. I think it will be an opportunity for us to talk about it in the coming earnings call or two, and I would really like for that to not only talk about the status of the technology, but perhaps also the status of one or two working relationships we have with third-parties at that point, helping us advance the technology and taking it that next step. But it’s a very exciting program for us. We’ve got an excellent team of people working on it, and its – we’re careful in our expenditures, but it’s adequately and well resourced to continue to advance that technology.

Jeff Osborne

Analyst · TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Excellent. I appreciate it, Dan. That’s all I have.

Don Young

Management

Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

Operator

We now turn to George Gianarikas with Canaccord. Your line is open.

George Gianarikas

Analyst

Hey, good morning, and thanks for taking my question. Maybe just to focus on some of the potential EV OEM awards that you haven’t announced yet that could get announced by the end of the year. Curious, can you just shed a little light on when you expect potential volumes to start there? Just so we can understand, when we look to 2024, how diversified will your PyroThin business be away from GM? Thank you.

Ricardo Rodriguez

Management

Yes. Thanks, George. So I mean, those awards would really kick in, in 2025. The meaningful volumes, and the ramp would happen in 2025. So for 2024, it’s fair to say that we will still be fairly concentrated on GM, which is proving out to not be a bad thing now and then Toyota and the Scania will also ramp up in the second half of next year.

George Gianarikas

Analyst

Thank you. And maybe to the extent you could share any details on Toyota, I mean, they seem to be at least in their public pronouncements going back and forth with their commitment to EVs. I mean what sort of momentum do you see with that account? Thank you.

Ricardo Rodriguez

Management

Yes. I mean I think we would put them in similar bucket as the other OEMs. I mean they still haven’t announced a broad battery platform strategy. Instead, it’s more of a nameplate by nameplate approach, and that scope can increase, but we don’t see anything here in the near-term for 2024.

George Gianarikas

Analyst

Thanks.

Don Young

Management

Thank you, George.

Operator

Operator

We now turn to Chris Souther with B. Riley. Your line is open.

Chris Souther

Analyst

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my questions here. Could you talk through the moving pieces on the revenue and EBITDA guidance for the fourth quarter? You said revenue is expected to grow, gross margins are expected to increase, and you had a $7 million EBITDA loss in the third quarter. So what are the moving pieces around the low end of the EBITDA guidance, $8 million loss? Can you talk through what you’d need from a revenue perspective to hit the positive EBITDA in the fourth quarter or is some specific output out of China or other factors that would kind of be in play there?

Ricardo Rodriguez

Management

Yes. No, that’s a good question. We knew you’d kind of go there. And we really are protecting for the doomsday scenario here. If you look at the negative 40 of EBITDA, right, of potential EBITDA. I think we’ll be forthcoming tightening that up as November materializes here. But for us, really, when we looked at the UAW agreement not being ratified, some of the big certification work streams with the contract manufacturer still in full swing and the potential cost of an additional turn of certification on those products. Really, if you combine all of those negative things, that could happen, albeit with low probabilities, that’s how you end up at the negative 40 of EBITDA. And yes, I mean I do think that given the ramp that we expect for Q4, we will have an opportunity to potentially tighten that range.

Chris Souther

Analyst

Understood. Okay. That’s really helpful.

Don Young

Management

Yes. Chris, I would say that there’s a reasonable chance that we’ll provide one more update before year-end on some of these topics that you and your colleagues have asked about revenue and EBITDA, additional OEM awards, commentary on the DOE LPO, those sorts of things I think it could very well be appropriate for us to again to update you all one more time before year-end.

Chris Souther

Analyst

Got it. Okay. That’s really helpful. And then just you kind of talk through your sales not matching up kind of as a leading indicator of GM production because obviously the implied ASPs otherwise would have been very high here. Where are the ASPs kind of shaken out if we exclude the Scania stuff just for kind of general cars SUVs that are in your OEM awards? And how much revenue are you guys getting from awards that you haven’t yet received as far as kind of component sales that are related to testing and the like? I just wanted to see if you could kind of provide a bit more clarity around that.

Ricardo Rodriguez

Management

Yes. I mean, the prototype revenues right now make up, well, less than 10% of our PyroThin revenues. And then I’m assuming you mean more around in when it comes to the rest of the PyroThin revenues, you mean more around our content per vehicle, right. How that is tracking?

Chris Souther

Analyst

Yes, exactly. Yes, exactly.

Ricardo Rodriguez

Management

Yes. And so I mean we’re still pretty consistently seeing our content per vehicle in that $700 to $1,000 per vehicle range, given that the bulk of what we’re supplying is vehicles with pretty large packs and pouch cells, right. And when we add one of these prismatic programs, I think the content there is more in that $350 to $400 per car range, and – but nonetheless, I mean it’s a much simpler part to produce. It requires a lot less capital. And so we’re happy with the economics of those awards as well. But right now, I mean if you’re looking at what we’re producing here, what we produce here in Q3, what we’ll do in Q4, and most of 2024, it’s still going to be this large pouch configuration with the CPV in that $700 range.

Chris Souther

Analyst

Got it. Okay. That’s really helpful. I’ll hop in the queue. Thanks.

Don Young

Management

Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Tom Curran with Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open.

Tom Curran

Analyst · Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open.

Good morning, guys. When it comes to the supplemental supply that you’re in the process of testing with your Chinese contract manufacturing partner, is the expectation still that once that’s fully ramped to the maximum expected capacity, that your available quarterly revenue capacity for Energy Industrial would be around $37.5 million? And then when it comes to that $118 million backlog of unfilled orders, how much time do you feel you have to catch up with those orders? And do you have any risk or liability related to letting them remain unfilled past a certain point in time?

Don Young

Management

Well, it’s a good question, Tom. We are very close to our Energy Industrial customers and the distribution channels and the engineering firms, and we actively communicate with them to be sure that we’re meeting their expectations. And – but we are in a position to switch over to the supplemental supply again early next year. And we feel that we will fulfill our obligations, our responsibilities to those customers, and quite frankly, that business is strong. Our sales team on the Energy Industrial side is very active on the Pyrogel side of the business and the Cryogel side, and the LNG part of the business. And so that business is going to continue to grow and be an important baseload of revenue and gross profit for our company. And so again, we feel we’re in a good position with those customers communicating well. Yes, the backlog and you might remember if you go back to the last time we were short of capacity. The backlog is substantial, and – but we’re in good shape. As long as we communicate well, I think we’re good.

Ricardo Rodriguez

Management

Yes. And if I may add, I mean, the team is pretty good at assessing what gets into that $118 million backlog and which orders they accept. And an order there makes it into that $118 million if the team has line of sight to fulfilling it within a reasonable time frame.

Tom Curran

Analyst · Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open.

Glad to hear that. That’s reassuring. And just to follow-up and try to clarify, within the $550 million, would you think of fully – eventual fully available annual revenue capacity for EI being around $150 million?

Don Young

Management

Yes. Yes, we would.

Tom Curran

Analyst · Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open.

Okay.

Don Young

Management

I mean when we think about the $550 million, we do think about the PyroThin part of that being $400 million, and the remaining part being the Energy Industrial side of our business.

Tom Curran

Analyst · Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open.

Got it. Thanks for that clarification, Don. And then turning to EV TB, when it comes to these next two potential awards that you remain very optimistic about landing before your-end, would you still expect at least one of those to result in a new customer essentially, what would be customer number four?

Ricardo Rodriguez

Management

Yes. That’s correct. Yes, I mean, we kind of put your bingo board there on Slide 3, Tom, and we would expect different logos on there.

Tom Curran

Analyst · Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open.

Ricardo, I love playing my bingo. I’m almost 50. Thanks, guys. I’ll turn it back.

Don Young

Management

Thank you, Tom.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our Q&A. I’m going to hand back to Don Young, CEO for closing remarks.

Don Young

Management

Thank you, Elliot. We appreciate your interest in Aspen Aerogels. We look forward to staying in close touch with you and reporting our fourth quarter 2023 results to you early next year. Be well and have a good day. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, today’s call has now concluded. We’d like to thank for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.