Yes. I mean that's a very good question. So what I would say, I mean, if I look at where we are, in China, we don't see a recovery, quite frankly, I wouldn't say in the next 1 or 2 years. The reason for that is that China needs to go through structural issues that they need to fix on the property sector, and we continue to see actually deacceleration on the investment in the property sector, which very much drives the coatings market in China. So we will continue to see some. I think it's stabilizing more at the bottom, but we will continue to see some softness, I would say, into 2026. And then when you think about North America, I mean, the key drivers in the coating markets, I would say is two. Is the sales of homes and those can be existing homes or it can be new construction and, let's call it, repaint, remodel kind of market, right? And when you look at sales of existing or sales of homes, that's driven by interest rates and that's driven by housing prices. And interest rates are still relatively high and housing prices are also relatively high. So I don't think that it's going to be -- there is -- that's why there is some conservatism in the market about those two. But then when you look at the repaint and remodel, the do-it-yourself market, that one continues to be pretty flat. And the price is slightly better, but not really picking up momentum a whole lot. If you look at our customers, if you look at what the market is saying, I mean, they tend to kind of follow this view that maybe the first half of 2026, calendar year 2026 is going to be soft because of these conditions. Now having said that, I've been surprised in the past, the market can recover, can pick up if the construction market picks up, and we'll have to be ready for that. But for now, what we're seeing is Europe is pretty stable. North America is stable. China, we know the story. And then we'll see some competitive pressure in Middle East, Africa, India and rest of Asia that we've been managing kind of throughout the last year.