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Q3 2016 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 10, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to Aramark's Third Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, I would like to inform you this conference is being recorded for rebroadcast, and that all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will open the conference call for questions at the conclusion of the company's prepared remarks. In order to accommodate all participants in the question queue, please initially limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. I will now turn the call over to Ian Bailey, Vice President of Investor Relations. Mr. Bailey, please proceed.

Ian M. Bailey - Vice President-Investor Relations

Management

Thanks, Caylin, and welcome to Aramark's conference call to review operating results for the third quarter of 2016. Here with me today are Eric Foss, our Chairman, President and CEO; and Steve Bramlage, our Executive Vice President and CFO. I would like to remind you that our notice regarding forward-looking statements is included in our press release this morning which can be found on our website. It is also detailed on page 2 of our earnings slide deck. During this call, we will be making comments that are forward-looking. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of various risks, uncertainties, and important factors, including those discussed in risk factors, MD&A and other sections of our SEC filings. Additionally, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. The reconciliation of these items to U.S. GAAP can be found in this morning's press release, as well as on our website at www.aramark.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to Eric. Eric? Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Thanks, Ian, and good morning. I'm happy to report strong third quarter financial results. We posted organic sales growth in the quarter of 4%, net of about a point of strategic actions that we discussed on our last earnings call. Said differently, our underlying business grew in the mid-single digits for the quarter. Solid productivity gains drove meaningful profitability expansion on a constant currency basis. Margins increased 50 basis points, adjusted operating income grew 15%, and adjusted EPS was $0.34, a 17% increase from prior year. Our outlook for the full-year remains unchanged, so all in, a really good quarter on multiple fronts. Not only were our financial and operational results strong, we were also busy in the marketplace. We hosted and serviced multiple…

Operator

Operator

Your first question comes from the line of Anj Singh. Your line is open. Anjaneya K. Singh - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I was hoping you could touch on your SG&A spend this quarter. It seems like you had a marked decline year-over-year and sequentially. Is that step-down just from ongoing productivity initiatives, or was there something specific that impacted the spend there this quarter? Thanks. Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: Yeah. This is Steve. I'll start with that one. I certainly wouldn't read very much into quarterly SG&A. On the financial statements that we disclosed a lot of the non-GAAP, or the items that we adjust out are rolled in through that line, so that line will be affected by, on a GAAP basis, the gas hedges, positive number of gas hedges that we recognize this year slightly offset by the severance number. So the underlying SG&A spend of the company is quite consistent. We continue to have year-over-year, we will have lower SG&A spending as we continue to look at the initiatives that Eric referenced earlier, but the quarter-to-quarter sequence of SG&A is going to be largely consistent. There has been no significant change in that. Anjaneya K. Singh - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Okay, got it. And Eric, could you talk a little bit about HPSI? I was hoping you could perhaps discuss some terms of the deal, multiples paid versus other deals that you normally do. And what is the purchasing power of this GPO or volume today? Where do you think it could go under your ownership, and any thoughts on how much of an impact this could have on your margins, near term and longer term? Thanks. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Well, I think as we said from really from the beginning, certainly, recently is we look at M&A opportunities strengthening our position in the purchasing space with something that we wanted to do. HPSI really from my perspective is an industry leader with industry leading management and systems. They buy about over $1 billion in annual purchasing, about $1.4 billion. They've been privately held. They've got thousands of largely clients in the healthcare and education space. And, again, what our objective is, is to take this, combine it with our own purchasing power, which we think allows us to strengthen our purchasing capabilities and ultimately, obviously, add scale immediately, but further exploit that scale over time. So, more to come relative to the upside potential. But I would say that strategically, this was a very important move for us to strengthen our purchasing capabilities, and one that we really think is a leverageable asset for us.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Wittmann. Your line is open. Andrew J. Wittmann - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Great. Guys, maybe I missed it. Did you quantify what the year-over-year benefit was from your strong playoffs, not just for the quarter but year-to-date, or could you if you didn't? Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: Yeah. This is Steve. Within the third quarter, it's going to be less than – somewhere in the neighborhood of 0.5% or so on a year-over-year basis just by having obviously both of the champions who we serve go all the way through, go all the way through. So somewhere in the neighborhood of slightly plus 0.5%. Andrew J. Wittmann - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Year to-date? Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: No, no. Revenue on the quarter, in the third quarter we benefited by about 0.5% of revenue year-over-year due to playoff activity. Andrew J. Wittmann - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker): Yeah. Can you give the year-to-date number too, because I think the baseball season was pretty good for you guys as well. Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: It would be less than that on a year-to-date basis. We obviously got a slight benefit in the first quarter, and there is no demonstrable benefit in the second half, so certainly less than 0.5% on a full-year basis. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Yeah. As Steve said in his opening comments. I think it's important to note out. Within a given quarter, it can have a little bit of an impact, but I don't think there's ever been a year where the playoff…

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Sara Gubins. Your line is open.

Sara Rebecca Gubins - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Management

Hi. Thank you. I was hoping you could give us an update on where you are on the rollout of the key initiatives, just to – sometimes you give us a detail on the percentage that has been rolled out for the key areas like Kronos and others. Thanks. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Well, I think, Sara, as I mentioned in my comments, the big emphasis for us has been this focus on the pilot on Ariba. So I think if you look down the various systems relative to where we are in terms of deployment, we're fairly far along as we've told you in the past on Kronos and PRIMA WEB. And then if you look at really I would say Ariba is the big one now that is in pilot and the one that we think has a meaningful upside, as I mentioned in my prepared comments relative to our ability to simplify our menu offering, streamline the number of SKUs and ultimately really help us relative to our food costs.

Sara Rebecca Gubins - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Management

And when do you expect Ariba to be fully rolled out? Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Well, we're just in – we're in pilot right now. So our timing on that will take place as we come out of pilot, we'll make a decision on both the pace of play and the breadth of that rollout. Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: Yeah. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: So more to come (31:05) Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: That will be certainly be a multiyear rollout across the organization. And there's no reason to expect it will happen faster than over the course of several years.

Sara Rebecca Gubins - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Management

Got it. And then just a quick follow-up on the HPSI acquisition. Does that bring revenue that we should be baking in, and where would we see that? Or is it more of a potential margin benefit over time as you consolidate some of the food buying? Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: (31:37) This is Steve. I'll answer first. We will record some revenue from this type of business. We have a small purchasing arm today that mainly supports our Canadian business, and so, it does generate some revenue for us really in the form of commissions that we earn on behalf of purchasing for other parts of the organization. And so, we will record that. I don't believe in the first year, relative to the entire organization, that it will be a material number for us. And then, we would expect certainly it to be margin accretive for us vis-à-vis the average of the entire company. But again, I would not expect it to be a material number for the company certainly in the very near future. It's a first step for us. It's a really good strategic step for us, but it's, nevertheless, a relatively small one in the scale of the entire company.

Sara Rebecca Gubins - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Manav Patnaik. Your line is open.

Manav Patnaik - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Management

Yeah. Hi. Good morning, gentlemen. So just a quick question to just try and gauge the level of progress in this quarter. So in the first quarter, I guess, what seemed like a surprise to us was pretty much as expected for you guys. But the positive surprise this quarter – is it fair to say from your commentary that maybe you guys probably did better than what you had expected to which is why the positive comments on maintaining the long-term guidance? Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: No. I would say that the quarter – we were encouraged by the quarter, but as we said all along, there is a lumpy nature to this business. And so, reading any particular quarter and trying to play that through to the upcoming quarter is not something I would recommend anybody do. But I think the quarter, for the most part, was fairly much in line with our expectations. We saw good growth, we saw good margin expansion, and it was consistent with the financial expectations we had for the business. So I'd say both the quarter and the year-to-date, the business is performing exactly as we kind of planned for and had forecasted.

Manav Patnaik - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Management

Okay. Fair enough. And then on the Uniforms side, I guess the energy impact seemed a little bit higher than we had expected. Maybe if you could just help refresh us with what the exposure to energy is in Uniforms, catering, and then how we should think about lapping those energy headwinds. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Well, again, I think as we said in the past, if you take the entire energy sector, it's a fairly small percentage relative to the impact on the overall company. Now, where it will impact us more significantly is in our South America mining business, which obviously affects the emerging market business. But I think specific to your question on Uniforms, you've seen not only ourselves but I think a lot of our uniform peers talk about how that slowdown has affected sites and therefore jobs and uniform wearers, and that's where I think the sector has begun to feel a bit of a headwind. All-in, again, I think there is probably some continued pressure in the uniform business as we look to the next couple of quarters. But from our perspective, it's pretty much focused on the energy slowdown. Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: Yeah. Broadly based across the company. I'd remind you that our entire kind of energy exposure across all the segments of the company is less than 5% of our total business, and then that encompasses both the Uniforms customers, as well as obviously the direct support we provide on the food and the facilities side globally. So it remains a relatively small portion of the total portfolio.

Manav Patnaik - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Management

Got it. All right. Thanks a lot, guys.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Gary Bisbee. Your line is open.

Gary Bisbee - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Management

Hey, guys. Good morning. Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: Good morning, Gary. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Good morning, Gary.

Gary Bisbee - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Management

(36:06) last quarter, I think there was some sense coming out of some of your comments that maybe the margin focus that you've had has impacted the amount of new business you were bidding on, or at least winning and walking away from stuff that didn't – wasn't in line with your long-term goals. Can you help us frame that commentary. Does that in any way mean that the number of or size of the potential market you're going after is diminished in any way? And I guess really what I'm getting at is an update on the competitive environment, how you're looking at that versus the big players and small players? Any thoughts to help us flush that out. Thank you. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Sure. Well, I think specifically to answer your question, I don't think it's changed the size of the price or the opportunity that we're pursuing, Gary. I think, for the most part, the competitive environment is rational. Certainly, those comments were not intended to change anything relative to our multiyear framework. I think as we look at the business, what we were trying to say is there's no debate in 2016 that we have a couple of headwinds. One of those headwinds are the strategic decisions that we made to either exit unprofitable geographies or unprofitable accounts. Second, like every company out there, there's no doubt that a second headwind has just been the global macro environment. I think third is there's no doubt the energy sector has been under some pressure. And so as we talked about our top line focus, we continue to remain very, very positive about the pipeline, which looks very good. We continue to be confident in our growth prospects going forward. I think what we were trying to say is that our focus will be on profitable growth. And strategically, if forced to choose, and I think there will be isolated instances when we're forced to choose, we will lean into margins and returns, and kind of play our game. That was really the core of the message that we were trying to send.

Gary Bisbee - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Management

That makes a lot of sense. I appreciate that. And then just a follow-up question, Steve, on the cash flow, I think you alluded to your continued efforts on working capital and other things. Any update there on how you're thinking about cash conversion potential over the next couple of years? Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: I think it's consistent with what we've been telling folks, on a medium-term basis we remain – I think we have opportunities in front of us to just consolidate, control over some of the larger working capital leverage. I think the historical decentralization of the company has put us in a position where we don't have a single source or a single point of contact where we collect all the money that's due to us or where we even disperse all of the funds. And so as we roll out a lot of the systems that we've alluded to earlier, that will provide greater transparency for us and will allow us to consolidate control over both receivables and payables that we don't have today. And now having said that, certainly in the short term, a continued general focus on things like DSO, DPO, et cetera, create opportunities for us, and we've made some progress there. And that's partially reflected in the year-over-year improvements we've had thus far in working capital. So I continue to think we have both short-term and medium-term opportunities for us, but they're going to be, to some extent, dependent on the timing and that we roll out systems and consolidate functions behind the scenes.

Gary Bisbee - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Management

Great. Thank you. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Stephen Grambling. Your line is open. Stephen Grambling - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Hey. Good morning, It's Stephen. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Good morning. Stephen Grambling - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Two quick follow-ups. First, you mentioned that 2017 will largely be in line with the longer term or intermediate term outlook provided at the Analyst Day. Was acquiring a group purchasing organization part of that outlook? Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: It will be part of that outlook in terms of what we expect 2017 to be at the time we get specific about it. The HPSI acquisition, as I had referenced before, it won't be material to our results in the very near term, so while certainly the results will be incorporated and we get specific about 2017, we're not going to fundamentally say anything different given the onboarding that we're going to have to do, and the relative size of that organization. Stephen Grambling - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Fair enough. And then a follow-up on the comment about the lumpiness, is there anything specific driving the wider range of guidance outcomes for fourth quarter and any additional color you can provide on expectations by segment in the fourth quarter that could go into that? Thanks. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Yes. Stephen, what I would say about fourth quarter is we'll continue to deal with three headwinds I mentioned earlier in Gary's question, right, the strategic actions, the global environment and the energy volatility. I think the fourth thing that will have a little bit of an impact again in a quarter is last year in the fourth quarter, we benefited from two of our Major League Baseball teams going all the way to the World Series. That is not something that we're forecasting as part of fourth quarter. So I think it's the three things we've been dealing with all year plus that one that really goes into play relative to the top line in the fourth quarter. But again, we continue to feel encouraged by the way the business is performing, and would expect us to finish the year in good shape and set our sights on 2017 with really good momentum. Stephen Grambling - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Great. Thanks. Best of luck closing out the year. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Dan Dolev. Your line is open.

Dan Dolev - Nomura Securities International, Inc.

Management

Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. I've got two questions. The first is on Uniforms. If you look at the competitive landscape, your biggest competitor accelerated about 20 basis points in their most recent quarter. Another competitor that has a lot of exposure to energy actually saw growth improve by about 50 basis points. So is the deceleration just energy, or is there something else to be read into that? Thank you. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Well, I think – let me just make sure you understand when I say deceleration. This was purely top line deceleration. So I think if I look at the sector peers, our performance in the quarter and our performance year-to-date is really right square in the middle of the peer group, with one maybe performing better and a few others performing worse at the top line. Relative to the margin expansion, we've continued post – if you remember early in the year in Uniforms, we did have some capacity issues that we needed to address on the West Coast. But I think if you look at third quarter and even as we look at fourth quarter and beyond, that's a business that has continued to see its margins grow 40 or 50 basis points, and that's something we have seen and (43:43) So the slowdown relative to energy is really top-line pressure not middle of the P&L pressure.

Dan Dolev - Nomura Securities International, Inc.

Management

Yeah. That's what I meant. I meant from a top-line perspective if there is something more than energy that led to the deceleration, not from a margin (43:57) Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: No. No. No. Not at all.

Dan Dolev - Nomura Securities International, Inc.

Management

Got it. Second question, Steve, in the past you've said that there was perhaps an opportunity to improve the tax rate. Can you give us an update on what you see there? Thank you. Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: Yeah. Just to reiterate what we've said previously. We, obviously, our tax rate is kind of in the mid-30%s at the moment, and obviously that a lot of our business is domiciled here in the U.S. with the highest marginal rate in the world, generally. Our medium term opportunity, certainly I think we can do some structuring around ownership of entities and how we tend to finance some of the entities that we have within the organization. That will be a multiyear initiative for us. So I would not expect any material change in the tax rate in the short term, but I would expect this to show slow but steady progress over the next couple of years, as we continue to take advantage of the rules that do exist today and get a little smarter with how we're organized.

Dan Dolev - Nomura Securities International, Inc.

Management

Is there a number that you can quote? Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: We've not provided specific guidance as to where we think the ultimate, end state ultimately will be. I mean, the nature of our business, unlike some of the companies you read about in the headlines with significantly lower rates, we don't tend to be – we tend to be a very local business. As a general rule, we don't move a lot of product or intellectual property across borders per se. And so the opportunities available to us are a little bit less than some other companies they have. But that doesn't mean there's not a chance for us over time to take several hundred basis points out of that rate, though, again, that won't happen all overnight.

Dan Dolev - Nomura Securities International, Inc.

Management

Excellent. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of (46:00) Your line is open.

Unknown Speaker

Management

Hi, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Good morning.

Unknown Speaker

Management

Good morning. The first question is about Yosemite. I wanted to know how that contract is doing relative to your prior expectations of $90 million in the back half, if there are any updates on the contribution that you're expecting. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Yeah. I think, first of all, we're very pleased with the start-up connected to Yosemite. I think it was a seamless transition. I think we continue to develop and bring innovative programs and services. I think as we look at the performance of the business, while it's pretty much in line, I'd say, if anything, it's trending slightly better than we had expected. I think the majority of that is there wasn't as much disruption at the changeover point. The traffic has been, from a guest standpoint, has continued to be very, very strong, and our team is really executing well, and I think the parks system is very happy with our performance. So I'd say slightly better than we had expected relative to the performance to-date.

Unknown Speaker

Management

Okay. That's great to hear. Another question is about leverage and capital allocation. With the goal to get under 4 times by the end of the year, as we inch closer to the target of 3.5 times leverage, how do you start thinking about buybacks, maybe the timing of when we should start to see some buybacks? Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: Yeah. This is Steve. I don't think our thinking around that has changed, certainly, again absent strategic transaction our HPSI where we would direct some funds to the primary use of capital in the near term here will remain deleveraging. I think we've been clear on that, and I don't think that has changed now as we get closer to kind of a mid 3 times sort of a number, we certain will have more flexibility around how we would choose to allocate that capital. So my sense is if you look at just the rate of EBITDA improvement, in general, and the rate of free cash flow generation, you're probably looking into largely deleveraging-focused initiative into the next fiscal year. And beyond that, if we achieve the objectives that we set out for ourselves, I think we start to enter into a period where we'll have a little more flexibility around how we deploy that capital, but it's probably 12 months out.

Unknown Speaker

Management

Completely fair. And just one last question to follow up on HPSI. Thanks for providing that color on the size of the acquisition. Can you give us a little bit of a sense of what proportion of their business has historically been in food service as opposed to non-food clinical products and the like? Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Well, I think the majority of the portfolio is in the food space, although they purchase everything. So they purchase a complete basket of goods.

Unknown Speaker

Management

Okay. Got it. Thanks. I appreciate that. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of (49:16) Your line is open.

Unknown Speaker

Management

Good afternoon, everyone – good morning, sorry, for you. Just a quick question, can you please quantify the impact of your strategic action that you have carried on the EBIT margin? And then my second question is regarding HPSI, their profitability. Can you share with us the profitability level, please? Stephen P. Bramlage - Chief Financial Officer & Executive VP: I'll answer the second one. We aren't going to disclose any of the financials associated with HPSI. It's not a material transaction for us. So you shouldn't expect us to show very much there. Though we will say the nature of that business, again, consistent with the business that we have internally. It will be accretive to the overall margin of the organization, but we're not going to be specific as to how we do that. As it relates to the quarter impact to some of the strategic initiatives we've taken on the productivity front, as we have said several times, our investments – we pull productivity out of the business in terms of the initiatives we have, and then we'll reinvest a portion of that back into capabilities either on the growth side or new business generation. Our investments tend to be front-end loaded if you're looking at our fiscal calendar. And so if we are showing about a 50-basis-point improvement on a year-over-year basis, if you just look at the productivity initiatives in the first half of the year, we would have reinvested probably about half of the productivity that we pulled out of the business, so kind of yielding about 50%. Our yield is up to somewhere two-thirds, 75% of the productivity that we realized in the third quarter as the intensity of some of the investments starts to tail off in the second half of the year. So we're yielding about two-thirds of what we're pulling out of the business in the quarter. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: And I think to get to your question on the strategic shift relative to – I'm assuming part of that question dealt with the exit of accounts and geographies. I'd say the majority of our productivity and margin expansion is really driven by food, labor and, to a lesser extent, SG&A, and I think the overall impact of those actions on our margin today has been fairly minimal.

Unknown Speaker

Management

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Goldstein. Your line is open. Jeffrey D. Goldstein - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Hi. Good morning. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Hi Jeff. Jeffrey D. Goldstein - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Hi. Can you comment on International growth you're seeing across particular industry verticals, and if there's any trend there worth calling out? And then just what are the puts and takes really for what it would take us to see International really accelerate to the top of your 3% to 5% long-term revenue guidance? Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Well, if you look at our performance in International, I'd say a couple of things. Again, the business is performing very consistently with our expectations. You're continuing to see our core markets, emerging markets, as I've said, China, Korea, Mexico grow at double digit. Europe has performed well both in the quarter and year-to-date. I think if you look at lines of business within our International geography, you really have to go country by country. So, obviously, the South America has been under a bit of pressure given the mining situation connection to the energy sector. Our China business is largely a facilities business in the healthcare space. It's continued to perform very, very well, and then our business in Europe is largely – it's a little more broadly mixed. But again, you have to look at it within Ireland and Germany. But that's going to be more business dining education. We have a big sports business in Germany. So again, it's almost on a country by country basis. We'd have to walk you through that. But I'd say our International business continues to perform very much consistent with…

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions in queue at this time. Eric J. Foss - Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer: Great. Well, thank you, Caylin, and thanks, everyone, for their time and your continued interest in Aramark, and we look forward to talking to you on our fourth quarter call. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thanks once again for joining us today. This does conclude our webcast, and you may now disconnect. Have a great day.