Michael Weinstein
Analyst · Jeffrey Kay, Private Investor. Please go ahead with your questions
Yes. That’s fine. First of all, we are really, really comfortable with our business right now. The change for our business in what we have done in the last couple of years of buying properties, whereby now over 20% of our operating income is coming from properties that we own is significant for us. Losing the regions we lost over the last few years, which were highly productive and probably $6 million worth of [indiscernible] led us to this conclusion that we had to own more stuff and we started to look at things that we had never looked at before. Obviously, we are debt at first and recently because of theses acquisitions on some debt, but that’s sort of a good governor for us because we are buying things that we think really are cheap and we are going to get a significant play out into real estate as well as the operating income following. So that’s one part of the business that we are really excited about and we are looking for more opportunities. The rest of our business has held up very, very well. And we are seeing deals. We are a company that doesn’t guarantee leases. So everything is a standalone entity, but difficult to deal with because if we are taking a lease, we wanted to be a tenant friendly lease and the rising real estate prices over the last couple of years, commercial rents, those opportunities has frequently presented to us or we don’t consider them because they are just expensive. That part of the world is changing also. Commercial rent is starting coming down. So we see ourselves with a good balance sheet, with assets that are undervalued in terms of real estate that we own. And we just like – we are very comfortable with our position. When we look at our business – and believe me, I am not saying this – I am being candid when I say this. We are not stock office, we are restaurant guys. I didn’t know what the valuation on our company should be. I just know that we are trying to build value. And – but the way I always look at this in my own way was that we have now some $25 million plus from coming from restaurant operations. We got $11 million corporate overhead, part of that’s attributable to what’s going into Meadowlands, which now is probably 2 years from something happening, but we have $25 million of corporate overhead – for restaurant operating profit and $11 million of corporate overhead. But we find the right guy to sell this to, looking at $25 million worth of restaurant operating profit, not the $40 million we expect plus – $40 million plus this year, but so I don’t know what the multiple should be on that. And I don’t know how Wall Street looks at that. But we look – if we were to sell, we would look to pair off with somebody who mirrors our locations with their locations and doesn’t need a corporate overhead. Conversely, there are companies out there that we would look at who align well venue to venue with us, where we don’t need their overhead. We tried that ones. We are not successful in making that acquisition, but we think our balance sheet and the business we are running now has a very favorable trend. We are not looking to sell our business. We get once every three months, four months good investment banker that’s how you should take in this private. The problem with that is I don’t want to be talking to a subordinated lender which needs one day and have to look at refinancing what are on doing, what we did. So I think you got to be patient with us and say hey you just got, it’s going to build a very strong business going forward. They are watershed of old leases is behind them. I think I described last 5 years or 6 years being one of these acrobats with the bamboo sticks, spinning plates on the sticks and you get down number 17 and watch number 1, 2 and 3. That’s what’s happening here. We have been hugely successful in finding operating income from either leases we have done, like Robert or Southwest Porch or acquisitions we have done like Rustic and Shuckers, hugely successful. But the problem is we have been chasing lost EBITDA. That lost EBITDA is one we lost anymore. Our lease is in good shape. We own significant number of properties. So I think we are in a position to build and that’s very exciting for us, very exciting. And we will see deals. Now, we don’t have a real estate department here to deal started to come with us and whether it’s one, two a year, now, there will be deals that will be done that I think we will be excited about. But you just have to have some patience with us. We are not sellers.