Scott Weiner
Analyst · Bank of America. You may proceed.
Yes, sure. So I'll start. I'll go back -- I'll start with the office question. I would say, look, similar to the U.S., every market and city is a little different. I would say, thankfully most of our exposure is in London, which continues to be one of the better, tighter markets, people going back to the office. I would say the other phenomenon, if you will, in London and Europe, much more so than here in the U.S. is the importance of LEED and environmentally friendly offices. It's taken much more seriously by occupiers. And so you see a real need for tenants to be in new modern green space. And at the same time, I think London is viewed as a safe place for capital. So you continue to see international capital going there. So I would say you're seeing in London in particular people being back in the office, occupiers, signing leases at the newer buildings. And you also see capital, both financing is available as well as acquisitions. Thankfully for us, our largest office exposure is in London. And it also is a long-term lease headquarters building. So we have a 20-year lease to a large financial institution as their headquarters. So that's our largest one, and that will continue to fund up over time. So that's why you're seeing our office exposure going up because that continues to fund. But obviously we're very comfortable on that deal. But I would say generally seeing positive trends in London and other markets in Europe. As far as deal opportunity, I would say, Europe, given solvency, for other reasons, really has never had a large CMBS market or capital market that way. They did have, I would say, a much more robust corporate bond market that the REITs over there took advantage of. But CMBS really never took root. So whereas in the U.S. everything seems to be getting done by the SASB market, that doesn't really exist in Europe. And so for us, we've really seen opportunity where you're getting into pan-European deals because of having to go multi-jurisdictional. The banks there don't like as much. We have some good technology there, acquisition facilities, industrial, other property types. just larger deals where we can marry Apollo Capital across vehicles, right, and basically not have a bar and not take syndication risk. Those have all been things where we've had a competitive advantage. And I would say similar to the U.S., the loan-on-loan or warehouse financing business is very much alive in Europe. So we're able to get very attractive terms in terms of not market-to-market stuff, advanced rate spread, so we're able to create a -- attractive absolute return. And then I would say on the hedging basis, things obviously shift. I would say there's not much of a pickup right now from pound or any pickup really from pound to dollar. It does continue to be a little bit of a pickup from Europe's [indiscernible].