Michael Arougheti
Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Sure. Each one is different and it's interesting because of all the things that you highlighted, I think it's a good indication of the types of things that we can do strategically, given how the business is positioned and where we see either gaps in product or new addressable markets. Crestline Denali, fairly small transaction as we you saw in the press release, acquired some management contracts. The good news is when we do things like that, which is really a bulk-up trade for our liquid credit team, we can drop down any acquired management fee revenue at a very high marginal profit rate. So if we're in that business acquiring CLO management contracts, they're going to really drop down at close to 100% marginal profit. So a really nice way to generate earnings accretion, but I would say that, that's a tuck-in, not a new strategic avenue of growth, obviously, given our current leadership position in the CLO market. Australia and SSG, I think, are two really good indications of how we can take existing capability and track record and existing product and open up new geographies. AAM, obviously a little bit more on the distribution side, given what we see as a long-term opportunity to satisfy demand for fixed income product in the superannuation market. And SSG, as I said, really a gateway into the pan-Asia region. That team, their approach to market, their approach to investing is so in line with the way that we approach our business. And culturally, they're so aligned with our approach. We just have very, very high expectations for what we can do with that platform going forward. Today, it's predominantly focused, as we mentioned, on direct lending and special situations. Given the capability of that team and given the capabilities of our platform, our expectation over time is that the entirety of our business will be in Asia, i.e., not just credit but private equity and real estate. So we're excited about that. And then Aspida, it's early days but we think that we have a wonderful platform to build from. We have a high conviction on a high growth rate there. We've committed significant resources and capital to make sure that, that grows according to plan. And as we've articulated on prior calls, we're already in the market, lining up third-party capital partners to help make sure that we can scale that business the way that we want to across the plan. So other than Crestline, I actually think that each of those three is opening up new markets and new geographies for us that are going to be very meaningful contributors to the profit picture over the next three to five years.