Yes, as far as lateral lengths, the Utica is even more smooth, I guess I would say more plainer than the Marcellus, virtually no ripples in it or anything. And so in terms of long laterals, we use a certain downhole tool, where we can make at least a couple of thousand feet a day in the lateral, the acre, auto track. And so we see that we can go quite long in the Utica. Right now, we've only gone in the mid 5s to mid 8s range of lateral feet, but we feel we can go quite a bit longer than that. There'll always be a little bit of a limit on frac-ing the tow and pressures required and so on. But in terms of that aspect of it, of course, our economics improve as we go longer, spreading that vertical across over more bcfs. So this advances, I expect to still be made on longer laterals. We've got a number of longer ones planned. In terms of interlateral distance, I think we're pretty comfortable with 1,000 foot in our lateral distance. And as we told the market, we've got 1 pilot, the Wayne pilot, where we drilled 3 wells at 500 foot inter lateral distance. Looks good so far, but it's still early, so I think we could say we're pretty comfortable with 1,000 foot, and we'll see about 500 foot. The locations that -- the number of locations that we talked about to the market is about 700 or so laterals that we have planned so far on our acreage, and that's all on 1,000 foot interlateral distance. But so far so good, maybe on tighter, but I think we feel pretty good about 1,000 foot.