Joe Puishys
Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open
Yes. Sam, there are four businesses, now, five, with the Sotawall acquisition and there's no question, we have strategically been focusing on expanding our presence and capabilities that has been our largest investment thrust for us for a couple of reasons. The margins are attractive. It is far more fragmented. So the share demand profile, there are many, many regional players. If you have a high quality company like the four, now five businesses under the Apogee umbrella, you can gain share and we've been doing that. All four of the existing businesses are growing substantially on the top line and bottom line. Your comment about backlog, again this is more of a faster turn business. So the increase in backlog reflects real true long term revenue growth potential in that business. Within the business, our window business based in Wausau has the longest lead time and we've had tremendous success in growing that business in the United States. So Sam, all four businesses are growing significantly and that has contributed to the revenue growth and the backlog. This business can be lumpy as well and we have that warning, but it does not have that dynamic that our services segment has with the lumpy sales, as Jim pointed out. And I tell you guys all the time, I have great visibility to what should be entering backlog. We purposefully highlighted our focus on the services segment as Jim mentioned. It’s two-thirds of the backlog. Right now, I have -- I believe more work in contracts and review, meaning awards that are going to go into backlog going into a quarter than I'd seen since I started here. So unfortunately, it wasn't a smooth year for services. When the year is over, this business will have grown nicely. I will simply say, I expect a substantial increase in backlog, actual backlog entering the services segment in Q4. I am telling you that now I'm not going to brag about when it happens. We have seen strong momentum in project bidding and award activity in the third quarter. More work is being released to the street in both this segment and in framing systems. So long way around the barn, all four businesses in framing systems are growing nicely. The backlog bodes well for F18 and in our services segment, the backlog growth I'm forecasting bodes well for F19 and F20. I do wish we had a more smooth quarter-by-quarter flow to that, but when the year is over, I think you're going to be impressed with our services segment backlog.