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Artisan Partners Asset Management Inc. (APAM)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 7, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Chad and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only-mode. [Operator Instructions] After the prepared remarks, management will conduct a question-and-answer Session and conference participants will be given instructions at that time. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. At this time, I will turn the call over to Makela Taphorn, Director of Management Reporting at Artisan Partners. Please go ahead.

Makela Taphorn

Analyst

Thank you. Welcome to the Artisan Partners Asset Management business update and earnings call. Today's call will include remarks from Eric Colson, Chairman and CEO; and C. J. Daley, CFO. Following these remarks, we will open the line for questions. Before Eric begins, I would like to remind you that our earnings release and the related presentation materials are available on the Investor Relations section of our website. Also, the comments made on today's call and some of our responses to your questions may deal with forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties. Factors that may cause our actual results to differ from expectations are presented in the earnings release and are detailed in our filings with the SEC. We undertake no obligation to revise these statements following the date of this conference call. In addition, some of our remarks made today will include references to non-GAAP financial measures. You can find reconciliations of those measures to the most comparable GAAP measures in the earnings release. I will now turn the call over to Eric Colson.

Eric Colson

Analyst

Thank you, Makela, and thank you everyone for joining the call. Next month will be the fifth anniversary of our IPO. Our transition to a public company structure was important to the evolution of our business. We've retained our independence and culture while establishing an employee equity structure that allows us to evolve and grow our business. Over the five years since our IPO, we have seen dramatic changes in the investment management industry. The rotation to active to passive has accelerated. Risk based asset allocations continue to gain popularity as the expense of the style box approach. And the demand for ETS and other efficient investment vehicles has grown. In navigating these changes to meet client needs and at the same time evolving our ownership structure, we are proud that we have stayed faithful to who we are. We've remained focused on generating high value added investment returns by creating the best environment for our investment talent. We have also evolved our business in important ways and consistent with who we are. We have added more degrees of freedom to our investment strategies and we have opportunistically sourced talent from new places and backgrounds. Since 2013, we have added three new investment teams and six new strategies including our first two credit strategies and our first two private funds. We have also expanded our distribution capabilities so that we are now distributing our strategies more broadly than even before. Since 2013, our AUM from clients outside of the U.S. has increased from 7.9 billion across 32 relationships to 22.7 billion across 128 relationships. Slide 2 shows the investment results, net of fees for Artisan's 13 existing strategies launched prior to 2017. To give you a different view of our business, we have grouped the strategies by U.S., non-U.S. oriented…

C. J. Daley

Analyst

Thanks Eric. Good morning, everyone. Financial results for the quarter and the year presented on Slide 7 and include both GAAP and adjusted results. I'll focus most of my comments on adjusted results which we as management utilize to evaluate our business operations. 2017 was a strong year for Artisan. The firm added our eighth investment team and launched four new investment strategies. Assets under management increased 19% to end the year and 115.5 billion, as a result of positive market returns included strong Alpha generation. Revenues for the year rose 10% and adjusted operating income rose 14% as we realize scale from higher AUM levels ending the year with a higher adjusted operating margin of 37.6%. Our adjusted results exclude the impacts of Tax Reform enacted in the fourth quarter of 2017. As a result of rat reform, the Company reported a $62 million non-cash GAAP charge in the December quarter from the revaluation of differed tax assets and liabilities. The net amount of 62 million is comprised of a 352 million non-cash tax expense related to lower tax benefits primarily from our TRA related differed tax assets, offset impart by a $290 million non-cash benefit from the corresponding reduction in the amounts payable under the tax receivable agreements. We currently estimate that our adjusted effective tax rate will be 23.5% in 2018. A summary of AUM is on Slide 8. Quarter end assets of 115.5 billion were up 2% compared to last quarter end. The increase in the current quarter reflected market appreciation of 4.3 billion, offset impart by 2.5 billion of net client cash outflows. For the year, AUM increased 19% as a result of $24 billion of market appreciation, offset impart by net client cash outflows of 5.4 billion. Net client cash outflows were primarily in…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Michael Carrier with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Michael Carrier

Analyst

Thanks guys. First question Eric, just, when you went through some of the strategies and where you're seeing the outflows versus the growth opportunities, just wanted to get an update on when you look at the Midcap strategies, I guess how much of a headwind we can see the aisle in there but probably on the opposite side, where are you seeing the opportunities for growth, which strategies are capped or closed you need a new money. Just trying to get a sense of maybe when that inflection going to happen, where the growth starts to offset some of the headwinds that you noticed?

Eric Colson

Analyst

Yeah, sure, Mike. There's obviously two levers there, the outflow and inflow and we addressed the Midcap outflow and. Now just given a combination of the absolute performance that asset classes generated over the last few years, I mean you just look at that five year time period of producing 15% in that asset class and they put on top the success of our Midcap value and Midcap growth. Any slight change in asset allocation or preference for proprietary target date has exacerbated the flows there. So we think that and in the Midcap value have subsided and with Midcap growth, we still have a good size of BC asset in there as well as some headwinds. But to offset that we have been in the Midcap growth space specifically launch the global discovery to have a more broader view of the Midcap space by creating a global - version of Midcap in some degree and that increases degrees of freedom for that space. Midcaps are fairly rigid category that has more limited degrees of freedom than our other strategies. So we like the fact that we launch the global discovery to help offset the Midcap grow. And so we think that's one area of an authentic move. And given the success of global opportunities and the Growth Team, we think we're well positioned to mitigate some flows in Midcap or also we're really at nice inflection points for the Credit Team and the Developing World Team given their three and close to three year track record with Developing World that there are right at those inflection points and the institutional marketplace lies to three year track record and process integrity. And we've hit those marks of those strategies. And it's nice to see some volatility back into the marketplace. Volatility is the friend of active management and so we're - we have a good out left given where those strategy that and where the market is moving towards.

Michael Carrier

Analyst

Okay, thanks. And then C. J. you gave a lot of expense guidance. Just on the capital side, when you - you mentioned in terms of the distribution policy just given the tax rate, you are potentially reviewing that, just wanted to get a sense of if you did go to the variable type of distribution, when you think about how much that you are able to payout versus if you look at the growth opportunities in front of Artisan and just how much maybe you see capital that you need or is that already have enough you know that's and that can recycled you know that the distribution of the payout could be close to 100%?

C. J. Daley

Analyst

Yeah, so fundamentally you know Tax Reform doesn't really change how we think about, how we operate the business and where we are going to invest back into the business. From a cash perspective you'll notice that our cash levels are down compared to last year and then that's really reflective of our seeding some of additional strategies we launched four strategies this year, so we stated about $40 million. That money will eventually make its way back in the cash because you know still money is left there for a define period of time you know normally 12 to 24 months. And in addition, we accelerated some bonus payments to take advantage of the higher tax deduction this year. So our cash level was depressed at the end of this year for those two reasons. The variable dividend the way we think about it is as a private company, we always paid out quarterly dividend after the end of the quarter and we typically paid out 100% of the earnings. As you know we are a low capital intensive business. So we think that and thinking about moving to variable dividend, it would provide a greater appreciation of actual cash generation you know get return capital to our shareholders in a more timely fashion. And really it's a reflection of how we are and how we think about the business. So I don't think our philosophy on returning capital to shareholders has changed at all. It would just be more a timing.

Michael Carrier

Analyst

Okay, thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Alex Blostein with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Alex Blostein

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Great. Good morning, guys. Just a quick follow-up for your guys on just expense trajectory on, so it sounds like and you guys gave a lot of details around just add some specifics on the occupancy side. But if you look at the non-com bucket, I guess as a whole just kind of excluding distribution expense, what sort of the growth rate you guys expect to see next year and it's going to sounds there is a couple of transitory things in there. How much of they in total as restructured to give our 2019 more of a kind of cleaner run rate what the growth there should be again kind of thinking about whole non-com bucket?

C. J. Daley

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Yeah, I mean the two areas that I highlighted occupancy and technology and I tried to I did breakout sort of thought were sort of the incremental type cost in 2018 which are quite significant for us. So I think you would - we would expect the trajectory to be back to normal mid-single-digits after you back out those onetime expenses which I highlighted with. They were about 4 million each in occupancy and communications. But then thereafter you know sort of back to normal levels.

Alex Blostein

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Got it. But I guess this is a normal level being 2017 or part of that like 2017 you guys also have some incremental built out, your build in the teams?

C. J. Daley

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

I mean we did a lot of in 2017 with new team and four new strategies, our first two commercial hedge fund products. So there were some elevation in 2017 as well. It all depends you know if we wind up having another like 2017 I think you would some elevated expenses as well.

Eric Colson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Yeah, Alex, it's Eric. We are experiencing some growth what C. J. mentioned with a new teams over the past few years and having a growth mindset given where our performance and our strategies are positioned right now. Looking forward, there is ample examples in that with regards to the Credit Team. And Brian came to me and said that he really wanted to position his franchise to be extremely durable and ready for growth given the performance and the foundation is left. So he requested to move to Denver to get greater access to one just new investment talent, more talent for his team, he feel it's a good location for that. In fact definitely, Well Kansas City a good central part - good central for the country or is not getting the exposure and traffic from consultants and prospects and clients and we think that would pick up. And we also think we'll get more meetings for with company management, self-side and research. And really that was a growth mindset move and we're happy to invest in that. And we thought the same way with Thematic. It's now in a great spot and we're moving it out to temporary location that we are housing it one of our floors that we had in New York and we've built there four walls and their space that matches who they are and their culture. And these are growth initiatives to our firm and we are happy to reinvest in that. And as C. J. mentioned, if we continue to have a growth orientation, you'll see that expense spend.

Alex Blostein

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

That totally makes sense. Certainly the theme we've heard from a lot of our peers in the space of the last few weeks here. I guess my second question to you guys, Eric kind of duff tails in what you are saying in terms of the build out. As we think about scaling some of the private funds, what's the process you know do you guys think it will be, you need to put a year on this but you now is this is a one to three year process before they start reaching more critical mass just as the fund raising dynamic in those products I know could take a little bit longer or do you think it will - could expense sort of beyond that sort of move the needle?

C. J. Daley

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Yeah, the private funds don't have the same timeframe as traditional strategies where you tend to need at least a three year record for capacity constrained, liquid oriented strategies and a certain level of assets so that the consultant and other buyers can take off their buy lift criteria. The private fund tend to be shorter than that. And so we wouldn't expect the full three years needed as we would with other strategies. But we do want to be thoughtful on how we move into the space. So we're not looking to take very asset that comes to us. We want to thoughtful of getting the right clients on the right terms that have the right outlook with regards to the time horizon for our strategies. And we think it's critically important to lay that foundation which I mentioned in my opening remarks about where the Credit Team and where the Developing World and the Thematic Team are as we think we lay in that foundation for a real strong franchise as opposed to getting one product for act. So we're going to have [Technical Difficult]

Alex Blostein

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Yeah, that makes sense, great. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Bill Katz of Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Bill Katz

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much for taking the question everyone. So couple of things, C. J. let's come back to the capital management discussion a little bit. You sort of talked a little bit about not kind paying the impact of taxes, is there other than the elevated earnings as a result of lower taxes, is there anything else that changes in sort of add backs to get what could be the potential for the quarterly variable dividend? And then separately, how do you think about repurchase now relative to the variable nature of the dividend given the ongoing drift in the share count?

C. J. Daley

Analyst

Yeah, so, first of I think that the high level answer on the dividend is there is no change in how we think about calculating. We basically look at our adjusted earnings which will include the impacts of the incremental spending that I highlighted add back non-cash expenses, primarily the equity based comp. And then there's some deferred tax which is somewhat immaterial. And the reason I stated that we didn't contemplate the impacts of Tax Reform in the dividend that we just announced. Obviously moving forward, we'll generate more cash as a result of Tax Reform. And we'll think about running the business and our dividend levels the same as we did last year will there just will be more cash available.

Bill Katz

Analyst

You had mentioned that you used have $0.25 this year as some of that reserve. Where's that reserve sand today?

C. J. Daley

Analyst

So, we basically flushed out the reserve we had held, if you recall that was probably a year ago where we're getting a lot of questions around our abilities to sustain our quarterly dividend because our earnings were around the same level. Obviously we had the non-cash expenses which generated cash which weren't in our adjusted earnings for the quarter. So we had held cash back in 2016 and 2017 as an insurance policy for that quarterly. And obviously now we're generating cash flow and excess of that and that's not a question. So again, same philosophy just a larger question there.

Bill Katz

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. Then Eric, just a big picture for you, I appreciate all the sort of big high - so you see the industry transforming in the evolution of APAM as well. What changes this dynamic then that you sort of you got some pressure on the Midcap side and makes from the style box, legacy style box, small but scaling high yield and it helps for Thematic? Is there anything that else can do to sort of catalyze the growth because when I look at the gross sales of the company that has come down a fair amount over the last year or so. And so the question is, if not now then when, you start sort to see a bit of a bump in the net sales overall?

Eric Colson

Analyst

Yeah, we're seeing the delta is when you really get to large scale account is that we're seeing more competition with regards to feed discounts for those really large accounts. And that's an area we've just held the line on. And so we've held that line on not negotiating steep discounts of, in our minds capacity constraint strategies and everything we do. I mean if we're going to deliver Alpha over the long run, we have to manage the philosophy of assets, we have to manage the mix, we have to manage the absolute AUM and every strategy and we're unwilling to take those large mandates that today's rate. So the other thing we're doing to offset that is to go deeper and to the intermediary space both in the U.S. and abroad. And we're starting to see some progress outside the U.S. to offset the large mandates that quite frankly, we pass on. You get into a negotiation and you get to a certain rate and at some level, we rather take a pass and just be patient. So we think that in the long run preserving that fee rate, especially if we're delivering the after fee returns that we've delivered and continue to deliver, we would rather be patient to manage that for the long run. And it takes broadly now to the distribution a bit more and having that play through over the next year or two.

Bill Katz

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Chris Shutler with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Chris Shutler

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead.

Hey, guys. First, couple of quick clean up questions on the model. So the $4 million of onetime expenses in both tech and occupancy, how should we think about the timing of those expenses hitting the P&L?

C. J. Daley

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead.

So, I think the occupancy is probably going to be mid-year and technology typically ramps up through the year. So near the end of the year the projects typically ramp up. So I think a little heavier in the mid to end. But admittedly Chris, we don't budget to the month, so those are just sort of high level expectations.

Chris Shutler

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead.

Okay. Fair enough. And then let's see, so I want to get your thoughts on the new factor classification system factor box being marketed by MSCI and Blackrock here recently, is that something that you think is at least the idea is good for the industry, do you think of framing investment performance using that factor land as opposed to style box land is something that's actually going to gain significant traction in the intermediary channel? Thank you.

Eric Colson

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead.

Sure. Chris, I think that the file boxes were a nice way to categorize various managers that compare and contrast and when style boxes came in and people created style indexes and then the marketplace got quite structured and product then followed suit and created strategies that tracked these style indexes. So I think style factors take that even further. And my view in the industry is going the opposite way with regards to the categorization of products for consultants, clients and intermediaries. With that being said though that the factors are taking hold in the ETF marketplace and we're seeing those factors causes some volatility even today especially if you lever these factors. And where I think the factors will come through to us is how we analyze, how markets are trading and how some of our teams a look at those factors influencing the portfolio and we'll understand that positioning, are we on the right side of those factors given our philosophy and process. But I don't view the end client or consultant micro-managing asset allocation or manager structure to that level.

Chris Shutler

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead.

Okay. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Surinder Thind of Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Surinder Thind

Analyst

Good morning, guys. Just following-up on the discussion around fees in perhaps some of the larger clients asking for discounts in terms of trying to get a new assets. Has there been any discussion around perhaps meeting them part way in the sense that maybe you go to like a performance fee model or something like that were maybe give them the discount but you say hey if we outperform by X then we get to recapture X amount or something like that?

Eric Colson

Analyst

Yes, Surinder, it's Eric. We've always been open to performance based fees and we are having more of those discussions at that account level. Really that the baby comes around, what's the base rate, what's the fulcrum and what's the symmetry around that fulcrum. And those are always the variable that you talk about. And if I had that to look forward and expect that we would see more of a performance based fees out of our traditional and new strategies on a go forward that will be part of the solution.

Surinder Thind

Analyst

Understood. And so I guess just kind of looking at the SME gross sales activity, obviously there been a quite a little past two quarters and this quarter is kind of the lowest in quite some time. So is that part of kind of what's going on in the sense of just there's a lot more discussion around fees that's kind of causing clients to hold off at this point or how should we think about that or is that just kind of the normal ebb and flow for the SME channel?

C. J. Daley

Analyst

I'm not sure if there's any normal ebb and flow for the SMA. We've said it's lumpy, it takes a longer time frame to normalize out. And when you actually win an account and get something own funded report and then look out into the future, you never really know when the exact funding is going to come and how it's going to settle. And it creates that lumpy outcome. So I wouldn't read into a quarter or try to create an SMA pattern. I just haven't seen that over the years in my experience.

Surinder Thind

Analyst

Understood. And then maybe touching based on earlier but your comments about kind of the Midcap products and then maybe if we just focus on the U.S. Value Team. They've maybe stretched struggled a little bit more than some of the other teams and I mean obviously everybody goes through periods of underperformance, but your other teams have bounced that as well but they've tended to bounce back perhaps a lot quicker. Is there any color you can provide on maybe what the delta has been and then maybe with the addition of new PM, I think it was last summer and stuff, if there's any been discussion on the teams investment approach or is it just literally their investment philosophy is just not quite the right fit for the current environment that we're in it at this point?

C. J. Daley

Analyst

I mean clearly that I think the primary discussion is the investment philosophy and process within this nine year bull market that's very narrow and it's had a big impact and it's had a longer and more extended time horizon than past cycles. We always talk about the philosophy a bit it or how to navigate, but yet have integrity and we think of new talent to bring in and to bring fresh new ideas. And that it both those occurred over that timeframe, the individual we brought in Tom Reynolds, who is I think had a nice impact on the team, but it's still early, these things take time. And as the market conditions change and it's not a one way trade, I think this strategy and this team will do quite well. And the Midcap value has been around since 1999, it's produced close to 400 basis points in Alpha and they've been with the same leader on that strategy in the same philosophy and process. So when clients and consultants look at buying, performance is important. But they want to be ensured that there's a high quality team and process integrity at some place, so that they can evaluate it. We think all that's in place and it really won't take a whole lot for performance to start coming back and for us to be in a positive position with this group.

Surinder Thind

Analyst

Understood. That's helpful. That's it for me. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question will be from Robert Lee of KBW. Please go ahead.

Robert Lee

Analyst

Hi, thanks. Good morning, guys. Just curious, maybe Eric, going back to your comments about looking at intermediary channels both the U.S. and outside the U.S. a place where maybe for more emphasis given let's see better fee structure, particularly outside the U.S. so that intermediary challenge has been a pretty expensive place to access and while fees tend to be high, it tends to be a lot of distribution expense around it. So you may be more not only in other specific non-U.S. intermediary channels where you feel like you have a better shower that spending as much as, just trying to get a feel how where you're focused outside the U.S. on expanding intermediary and how we should think of that from kind of an incremental spend beyond what C.J. has mentioned?

Eric Colson

Analyst

Certainly, Rob. The historical fear of the intermediary market in Europe primarily is the number of vehicles, share classes and expense that goes with distributed in a more fragmented marketplace. Our belief is that that's consolidating and the regulatory environment is moving to a more clean share class structure which we see in the U.S. that's happening quite a bit in Europe. And we think that is extremely favorable to our model. And so we're picking and choosing those platforms and partners that fit our institutional mindset. But there will be some additional expense above what we do in the U.S. just given the number of countries you deal with and languages that you have to translate to. So they'll be some I think minor expense on top of that but those are all coming down and that's one of the real reasons we're getting excited about that space is it is coming down in the expenses.

Robert Lee

Analyst

Okay. Thanks. And maybe at a high level, you gave some good color around some of the challenges faced in Midcap strategies with re-bouncing and what not. But I mean at a high level, could you maybe talk a little bit about kind of more broadly speaking kind of RFP activity that you're seeing out, are you expecting that Global had pretty good run for a while, you expecting to see more re-bouncing there or are you seeing more people come back to active or liquid strategies maybe from even some alternative strategies given I was saying in the last week or so there's seems to still be some optimism about the market outlook for next couple of year or so?

Eric Colson

Analyst

I don't think if we've seen any major change that I can identify. That's going to change the flow dynamic that staring at us today obviously there's volatility creeping into the market and a lot of material written that active is the imposition better than it was before. And I think that active and passive do have cycles. And so we are optimistic about the near term. And I would define that over the next three years to five years, but I don't see any catalyst right in front of us today.

Robert Lee

Analyst

Hey, thanks. Maybe one last just technical question. With the Class B shares I guess seems poised to convert so one vote. Is that all, is that any kind of change in control from the fund contract perspective, it's going to require some proxies or anything?

Eric Colson

Analyst

No. We've obviously thought about the design of this outcome to minimize disruption for clients prior to the IPO. We've been very thoughtful about this outcome. And it's not going to create a need to have a proxy vote for validating the change of control. So that won't be in place and we've just looked at all the areas that going from private to public, we've just tried to smooth everything and create the outcome to be gradual and thoughtful. And we think that transition for the most part is complete.

Robert Lee

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my question.

Operator

Operator

The next question will be from Kenneth Lee of RBC Capital Markets.

Kenneth Lee

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I just had one question on - the follow-up on the non-U.S. client AUM which is the nice growth. I wonder if you can give us a sense of the mix between institutional intermediaries I mean it sounds that it's going towards the intermediary but just want to get a better sense. And also relatedly what particular strategies or products are getting a particular attraction for these non-U.S. clients? Thanks.

C. J. Daley

Analyst

Sure, Ken. The design of going into the non-U.S. distribute marketplace was really through the institutional consultant and our institutional presence. So we have quite a few global consultants that were well positioned with. And if you look back to the launch of our global strategies in our immerging markets that provided for the first time strategies that will be positioned quite well for non-U.S. investors. And so the foundation of our early and continued non-U.S. access is through the institutional marketplace. We have been successful with some intermediaries but we haven't applied the same resources that we apply in the U.S. to outside the U.S. and we're going to uptick our resources towards the intermediary space in Europe and broaden that out for the future.

Kenneth Lee

Analyst

Gotcha, thanks.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question-and-answer session and thus concludes today's call. We thank you very much for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.