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Artisan Partners Asset Management Inc. (APAM)

Q1 2014 Earnings Call· Wed, Apr 30, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Artisan Partners Asset Management’s First Quarter 2014 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Gary, and I will be your conference operator today. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. At this time, I will turn the call over to Makela Taphorn with Artisan Partners. Please go ahead.

Makela Taphorn

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that our first quarter earnings release and the related presentation materials are available on the Investor Relations section of the website. I would also like to remind you that comments made on today's call and some of your responses to your questions may deal with forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties. Factors that may cause our actual results to differ from expectations are presented in the earnings release and are detailed in our filings with the SEC. We undertake no obligation to revise these statements following the date of this conference call. In addition, some of the remarks this morning may include references to non-GAAP financial measures. You can find reconciliations of those measures to the most comparable GAAP measures in the earnings release. And with that, I'll now turn it over to our Chief Executive Officer, Eric Colson.

Eric Colson

Analyst

Thanks, Makela. Good morning. Welcome to Artisan Partners Asset Management business update and quarterly earnings call. I'm Eric Colson, CEO; and I'm joined today by C.J. Daley, CFO. Thank you for your time today, and I hope you find this discussion useful. As with past calls, I want to reinforce our business model relative to the quarter and go deeper into our business philosophy and approach that drives the results over a longer and more meaningful period. This quarter, I will spend time on the evolution of our high-value added investment strategies towards increased degrees of investment freedom. More specifically, I want to explain that evolution as it relates to 2 secular market trends: globalization and investment policy evolution towards passive and alternative investing. Once I'm done, C.J. will take the lead and walk you through our financials. On the first page, I would highlight 2 points for the quarter. First, our overall AUM has increased to over $107 billion, owing to positive net flows and market appreciation. Second, although the sliver of pie is small, our credit team is live with its first strategy, Artisan Partners' high income. We expect the team to represent a small percentage of the firm assets for a while, as we allow Bryan and his team to focus on investing. We are discussing the strategy with early adopters that are familiar with our firm and interested in Bryan's strategy. I will elaborate on the credit team and the high-income strategy later in the call. The next 2 slides provide the current view of our long-term investment results. As a reminder, we analyze performance around several key points, faithfulness to a stated investment process, solid absolute performance and performance compared to peers and the index. All of our strategies continue to execute their distinct investment…

Charles Daley

Analyst

Thanks, Eric. Good morning, everyone. I'll begin a review of our first quarter March 31, 2014 financial results on Slide 14. In summary, for the quarter, AUM increased to $107.4 billion and net client cash inflows to $1.4 billion. This is our tenth consecutive quarter of positive client cash flows and represents a 5.4% annualized organic growth rate. Revenues for the March quarter were $201.8 million, up 2% over revenues in the preceding December quarter of 2013, and up 36% over the corresponding March 2013 quarter. Our adjusted operating margin rose to 45.1% as the result of higher revenues with lower operating expenses. Net income per share on an adjusted basis was $0.78 per share compared to $0.77 per share in the December quarter. Our Board of Directors declared a regular quarterly dividend of $0.55 per share. On a GAAP basis, we recorded a loss of $2.29 for the current March quarter. The GAAP loss per share was a result of the market price per share of the common stock sold in our March follow-on offering exceeding the per share carrying value of the convertible preferred equity we repurchased with a portion of the operating proceeds. On an adjusted basis, we reported earnings per share of $0.78 for the current quarter. Our earnings measures remove the accounting impact of certain transactions related to our IPO and the March follow-on offering. These non-GAAP measures provide investors with the same financial metrics that we, as management, use to manage the company. Slide 15 is the review of our AUM for the current quarter. Ending assets under management of $107.4 billion were up 2% from assets of $105.5 billion at December 31, and up 29% from assets a year ago. Average assets for the March quarter were $106.2 billion, up 5% from average…

Eric Colson

Analyst

Thanks, C.J. And now we'll open the call up for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Bill Katz with Citigroup.

William Katz

Analyst

Okay. First question, just coming back to the dynamic between sort of the unique alpha generation that you sort of see through your degrees of separation, if you will, versus this sort of more structural movement to lower cost beta exposure. Is there further pressure on any parts of the business that we should be concerned about in terms of other lumpy mandates that may be coming out? Maybe the converse is are you seeing an increasing traction for your value alpha generation?

Eric Colson

Analyst

Bill, it's Eric. We haven't been on notice or given any indications from current clients that fees are in issue right at now. Those things pop up from time to time, as I mentioned in the call, as people start reevaluating. And as people want to increase the beta exposure and then also a barbel back and go into more degrees of freedom, sometimes we'll get caught in the middle there. And with regards to our current products and new product suite, I'm seeing that trend just increasing freedom. So whether it's one of our mid-cap products where we're just increasing the ability to use non-U.S. exposure or global, international fix -- global and international value being able to use more fixed income within their portfolio, we've been taking those strides to increase the freedom to distinguish our products. And that's been working quite nicely. And the majority of our clients, if not all of them, are adjusting their investment policy statement to allow us to use that freedom.

William Katz

Analyst

Okay. So this is a bit of a one-off for now, the way to think about it that way?

Eric Colson

Analyst

Yes.

William Katz

Analyst

Second question is, and I appreciate the details in some of the other line items, but as I look at into the second and third quarters, it does seem to be a few more moving parts in the comp line. So when you look into the second quarter, C.J., I'm sort of curious, any sense of where the actual number may settle out here a little bit? Because I think you had maybe a fuller impact from buildout of the high-yield team or perhaps maybe it's already embedded in the first quarter. So any thoughts how we should be thinking about that? Because obviously, Q1 was a pretty good quarter.

Charles Daley

Analyst

Yes. I mean, I think in the second quarter, you're largely going to see the comp ratio very similar to the first quarter here. We've built in most of the costs of our new fixed income team. There'll be a little bit more but nothing material. Where you will see the change will be in the September quarter when we layer in the next grant of equity in July. So I think next quarter would largely be consistent with the first quarter and react as you would expect with the increases or decreases in AUM levels.

William Katz

Analyst

Okay. And just one last one for me. You highlighted the opportunity for outside the United States, but if you look back, the absolute dollars have still been relatively small in terms of the net new business. Do you sort of size the potential that, that distribution channel might be? And then maybe as a second part of the question, what is your institutional pipeline today maybe versus where it was 6 months -- 3 months ago or a year ago?

Eric Colson

Analyst

The pipelines are tough to measure there. The pipelines we see -- feel right now give us quite a bit of opportunity, and as C.J. said on the call, much more robust outside the U.S., in Europe and Australia is where we're seeing quite a bit of activity. And despite the asset being flat year-over-year with 11% of our total assets in non-U.S., we've had 28 new clients year-over-year join us there. So in some of those clients, we'll seed with a smaller amount and then we'll build assets over time. So we're seeing quite a bit of activity outside the U.S. despite the flat percentage there year-over-year with 11%.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Mark Irizarry with Goldman Sachs.

Marc Irizarry

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Great. So just a question in terms of the buildout of the -- if you look at the investment strategy spectrum and maybe some of the more alternative-based product, what should we be thinking in terms of adding additional teams and product there? And when you think about just the barbelling between low cost beta and high value alpha, I guess the pricing on the alternative side in terms of fees, I mean, when you think about the teams that you're adding, should we be thinking about more of the alternative next year growing over time?

Eric Colson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Mark, it's Eric. Yes, certainly through the graph we showed in the presentation, Artisan has definitely directionally increased those degrees of freedom and get into the alternative space. So the strategy that we think could come online down the road may not have as much capacity with regard to assets, but they'll have a higher fee rate. And so we will see new strategies that would come on would give us an uptick in fee. But as you guys know, the capacity that -- an alternative strategy that has quite a bit of degrees of flexibility will be limited.

Marc Irizarry

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Okay. And then just -- I might have missed this in terms of capacity. How much of your flows went into product that was soft closed in the quarter? And maybe you can give us an update just on the existing sort of trends as you see them today in retail maybe through April?

Eric Colson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Yes. I'll let C.J. take a look at the capacity numbers there. But with regards to the trends in retail, we haven't -- given our small percentage in retail, we haven't been analyzing what flows have occurred in what buckets over the first quarter. Our retail business is relatively small. We don't stack a lot of assets towards that. We have seen in the intermediary channel quite a bit of activity since that's where the bulk of the activity is in the intermediary space for us with high demand in non-U.S, equity as C.J. said. And so we saw good growth rates in our non-U.S. growth strategy.

Charles Daley

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Yes, mark, so majority of our flows this quarter were in strategies that were opened, led by international growth and opportunities strategy that we've talked about where we've had capacity and we've had interest. So certainly, a tilt towards open strategies.

Marc Irizarry

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Were there flows in closed strategies?

Eric Colson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Yes, absolutely. When we close our strategies, we consider them soft closed. We -- some strategies we push harder than others to limit flows. But there's always opportunities for existing clients in open platforms to add dollars, and that always happens.

Marc Irizarry

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Okay. And then just one follow-on, if I can. We're hearing some pensions talk about maybe the funding status is improving and moving into more LDI strategies. Is that something out there that you think is -- you expect to see that on the comp or you hear -- is that not as much of a concern for you on the equity side?

Eric Colson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

It's been a concern over the years. We've seen quite a few pension plans moving to an LDI. We haven't heard or seen our client base talk about that as much these days as in probably, say, 3 to 5 years ago.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Robert Lee with KBW.

Robert Lee

Analyst · KBW.

I guess my first question is -- I guess it's probably a little technical in nature. But with the deferred tax assets in TRA, for you guys, what's kind of the ongoing kind of incremental kind of cash tax benefit you expect to get kind of maybe on an annual basis? Was it -- because I'm coming up with something kind of $5 million, $6 million, $7 million or so. Does that seem right?

Eric Colson

Analyst · KBW.

Yes. I mean, it's initially very small because we have to amortize that tax deduction over 15 years. And it's measured at the time of the exchange. And that's why we booked that whole entire tax deduction in the balance sheet, the asset, as well as the amount payable to the selling shareholder. And then as you know, we retained 15%. So roughly, if you look at 15% of that deferred tax asset, and over 15-year period, that would be the amount that we would eventually realize.

Robert Lee

Analyst · KBW.

Okay. Eric, I'm just curious, you kind of talked a little bit in the past about the DC business kind of being -- well, you have -- several years ago, you had a good growth business. Now it's been probably more mature for you guys. So is there any signs you see that as you talked about changes in the institutional landscape more unconstrained, any signs that you're seeing any kind of shift in the DC landscape that could mean more opportunities for you guys or -- I guess that's my question.

Eric Colson

Analyst · KBW.

Yes. We're starting to see a bit of activity in the middle market for the -- excluding some of the really large DC plans there. And we saw a positive growth rate in the DC channel for us this quarter. And the large plan market where we would see more opportunity and customized target date funds is still moving slowly. We've seen a few consultants build out customized funds and moving away from the proprietary target-based funds. But that's going to be a slow process. That's always been a little bit more of an investment and an administrative sale as opposed to the straight DB [ph] business. So we continue slow movement, but no tipping point, Rob.

Robert Lee

Analyst · KBW.

And maybe just one last follow-up, if I could. I'm just curious, I mean, do you continue to look to grow your non-U.S. business and relationships there? Has becoming a public company at all helped some of those conversations? Does it have no impact? Or I mean, how does that tend to be received outside of the U.S.?

Eric Colson

Analyst · KBW.

Well, most of our business comes from the consultant channel and intermediary channel outside the U.S. That's our major leverage point. From that standpoint, being public has been -- has not been an issue there or a benefit. When it gets to the end client, being public has actually helped out. They put up our name or our name has been out more often. So we have a slight positive there. And then obviously, it's helped out with regards to new teams as well as more investors become aware of Artisan. So it gives us more opportunities outside the U.S. to find investment teams. So I would say that outside the U.S., being public has given us a slight positive overall.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Cynthia Mayer with Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Cynthia Mayer

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

A question on industry trends. I guess given the move toward barbelling which you were talking about between active and passive, are you seeing any more competition among traditional managers who will introduce a lot of unconstrained products? And is that leading to any more pressure on fees, any more fee competition? Or should we just view the pension redemption as kind of a one-off?

Eric Colson

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Cynthia, it's Eric. We view our -- the one client that we lost as a one-off there. We do see quite a few competitors creating strategies that have more and more degrees of freedom. They can be -- their name is quite a few things as we've seen. Let's go anywhere to alternatives. I mean, calling something a hedge fund today is a very broad term. So we clearly are going to see more competition there. We're going to see more product come out to the marketplace. We haven't seen much movement on fees, though, in that space. As you've added degrees of freedom, as you create strategies that are differentiated from indexes, fees have been holding tight there.

Cynthia Mayer

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Great. And just on the emerging market strategy, it looks like the outflows there picked up in the quarter, and the assets left in there are getting smaller. Are the outflows at this point creating further pressure on the performance in the remaining assets? And is there anyway you can stabilize those?

Eric Colson

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

We did have a bit of outflow there at the Q1 for emerging markets. The performance we saw uptick with the January and February and then rolled off a bit in March. And so we continue to hold tight with the strategy. But the strategy, for it to really stabilize, we'll have to start reducing performance above the index. But at this point, we haven't seen the outflows putting any pressure on performance though.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Eric Berg with RBC Capital Markets.

Eric Berg

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets.

I still want to home in on this large outflow in March institutionally. The client said he wanted to save money by consolidating his money managers. But it seems to me people are more interested in saving money when they don't think the product -- and I don't care whether it's money management, TV sets, cars, what have you -- is delivering the value. How do you know that when the client says it's a price issue, it really wasn't about the performance? And it's still unclear to me. This is sort of a 2-part question. How do you know this wasn't about performance? After all, it was in the -- with the team that has been struggling at least over the 1-year period. And why are you expressing optimism that this is a one-off?

Eric Colson

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets.

First -- Eric, it's Eric Colson here. The strategy was producing alpha over that period. So the strategy, we felt, was well positioned. The client told us it was well positioned. But they were reducing their number of managers there and then increasing the allocation of those dollars to the existing managers. And with that increase in assets and consolidation, they expected a significant fee discount for higher assets. And the significance of that fee discount was, in our mind, fairly extreme. So we opted to not participate. It was very clearly to us a cost-cutting measure. Every manager was given the same discussion. So -- and it was a fairly long conversation that occurred over months. So there are times, though, I'll agree with you that you'll get a reason for being terminated. And you're not really quite sure if that was the exact reason or was it just a polite reason to move you along. I would -- in this case, in this example, we had a good dialogue. And it was a good long-term client that we didn't want to lose, but we had to move on.

Eric Berg

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets.

And so if I could just follow up, you mentioned that this was in the value team's effort, right?

Eric Colson

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets.

Yes.

Eric Berg

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets.

Okay. My only remaining question is this. Your answer was very responsive and very helpful. Exhibit 6 shows -- in your materials shows that over the last 1 year, all 3 of the strategies have been pretty -- have not been creating alphas. So when you say that the strategy was creating alpha, what are you referencing?

Eric Colson

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets.

I have to look back to that exact client and their inception date. I mean, inception date is a very important component to every account. And that team's alpha -- let me open that Exhibit 6, the large cap value, the 1-year period of underperformance. The year-to-date we have is -- I'm sorry, I was looking at the year-to-date of a positive 108 versus just the 1 year over -- year-over-year. But for that client, I will have to go back to the inception date so we can get specific numbers on it to see where they were at. But it wasn't a performance issue with that client.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Michael Kim with Sandler O'Neill.

Michael Kim

Analyst

First, just a follow-up on the non-U.S. opportunity. Just based on some anecdotal evidence, it does sound like investors outside of the U.S. seem to be re-risking portfolios maybe a bit quicker relative to individuals here in the U.S.. I know it varies by region, but just curious how that dynamic could potentially set up for your growth prospects, particularly in the context of where you may have the most capacity as you look across your investment teams.

Eric Colson

Analyst

Michael, this is Eric. I'm not sure if we've had direct dialogue around client specifically saying we're re-risking. I do think that our global strategies are performing quite well versus the index and the peers. And we're clearly getting good opportunities. And as people look at equities outside the U.S., the interest is into -- is in active or high-value added, global strategies that tend to be a little bit more concentrated and are distinguished from the index. And our strategies are showing up quite nicely in the peer groups, and we're getting some good opportunities overseas.

Michael Kim

Analyst

Okay. And then maybe just one for C.J. I know a big part of your expense base is variable. But just curious to get your take on sort of the outlook for margins just given equity comp is stepping up and you talked about maybe a bit of a pickup in IT spending going forward versus ongoing revenue growth and obviously your focus on fee discipline.

Charles Daley

Analyst

Yes. I think you saw in this quarter what -- the leverage that we have in our model as we ticked up a couple of hundred basis points in our margin as a result of higher average AUM and the roll-off of some of those expenses that we had highlighted. So our expense base right now from a fixed cost expense other than that technology, which is guiding $0.5 million or higher so, is largely -- the fixed base is largely where we expected to be until we make that next equity grant. So I think formulaically, you could see our P&L react as you would expect in the second quarter. And then based on the size of the equity grant and the stock price at the time, we could see up to a couple of hundred basis points degradation in the margin as we layer in that. But over time, as we've guided, we think as layer in all those effects with our growth assumptions that we'll still settle back in the mid-40s on the margin, which is approximately where we were this quarter.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Surinder Thind with Jefferies.

Surinder Thind

Analyst · Jefferies.

Just a follow-up on the redemption. So in light of that, can you provide some color maybe around how many other large accounts you may have within the SMA segment or maybe perhaps some color just around the average size and range? I mean, I think in the K, you guys talked about like a minimum investment is roughly $20 million to $50 million, and there's roughly 140 client relationships with maybe like 200 accounts.

Eric Colson

Analyst · Jefferies.

Yes. Surinder, this is Eric. Those sound about right for the numbers. I mean, the minimums range from $20 million to $30 million up to $50 plus million depending on the strategy. But otherwise, your numbers sound approximately right there with regards to the number of accounts and average size there.

Surinder Thind

Analyst · Jefferies.

Okay. And so I guess just related to that, are there other -- do you have a few other clients in there that are maybe, let's say, $500 million or more in assets? I guess that's kind of what I was trying to ask, if there's other large concentrations of clients.

Eric Colson

Analyst · Jefferies.

Yes, we certainly have a handful of clients above the $500 million mark that would in that mix.

Surinder Thind

Analyst · Jefferies.

Okay. And then one other quick question. I think you guys were mentioning you guys are beginning to see some good traction in your Global Equity strategy, especially within the broker dealer channel. I think if you take a step back, I think there was a PM change a little over a year ago. Kind of given that it's got a terrific 3-year track record now and that it's been more than a year with the new PM there, is that enough kind of for the consulting community? Or has there been additional dialogues there? Or can you maybe elaborate on that?

Eric Colson

Analyst · Jefferies.

Yes, certainly. If you went back a year ago, we had co-portfolio manager structure. And then we did lose one of those portfolio managers who was leading the Global Equity strategy. The team of the Global Equity team was supporting that Global Equity product, though, from research. So with the co-manager, the addition of 2 other individuals as portfolio managers on the strategies to replace the individual and the consistency of the performance and the product integrity, consultants and clients look at those factors. Clearly, the single portfolio manager loss will be brought up in discussions. But I do think now with a year timeframe and the consistency and the outperformance will help the strategy move forward to build its pipeline and opportunities.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Chris Shutler with William Blair.

Christopher Shutler

Analyst · William Blair.

So the Global Op strategy, I know that's beginning to get some traction, particularly overseas. Can you talk about where you're at right now with consultants on that one? Are you -- do you feel like you're where you need to be? Or is there still a good bit of work to educate the consultant community?

Eric Colson

Analyst · William Blair.

We feel like we're in a good spot with the Global Opportunities. We're in searches. We are looking at finalists. And so that's clearly given us signs that consultants are putting us as a buy rating or putting us into opportunities. And so we see that pipeline moving in forward quite nicely. The strategy is definitely distinguished versus many strategies that we go up against given its concentration and its growth orientation. So we feel it's still very well positioned.

Christopher Shutler

Analyst · William Blair.

All right, great. And then last question for me. So Eric, I know that you said historically that growing number of strategies at Artisan is going to be both a balance between both new teams and existing teams rolling out new products. So really just curious on the latter, where you see opportunities right now with the existing teams.

Eric Colson

Analyst · William Blair.

Right now, we're focusing on the credit teams. And as I mentioned in the call, just broadening out our operations with fixed income. I think some of the other existing teams may look at that as an opportunity to use those instruments and securities that broaden out strategy. But at this point, we have no new strategies that will be launched in the near term off of an existing team. We're in constant dialogue with our groups to see what strategies we'd want to incubate and roll out. And we also think that's a great way to help build out new decision makers over time to build out succession. So it's a constant dialogue. But we have nothing on the docket right now to announce.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Colson for any closing remarks.

Eric Colson

Analyst

Good. Thank you for your time today. We appreciate your participation.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.