Joseph M. DeVivo
Analyst · HMTC.
Yes, it's the same answer every quarter. We continue to go back and forth on pancreas. It's almost why I just stopped talking about it until I have positive news and we make progress. It's really the same story. And -- but that said, there are a lot of good clinical activities going on in the U.S., with sites that's used to do it for pancreas. And we still think it's a very good application. But we have not made the kind of progress, and we'll just continue to work at it. And when finally when we break through, maybe I'll pick up the phone and call you, Larry. You'll be the first one to know. But we do have a lot of good clinical activities happening, and we are preparing our site for the U.S. safety study for prostate. We are accruing patients. I'm not sure how many we're up to, but it's in -- I think we're double digits with our CROES study in our -- yes, 12 patients with our CROES study, which is excellent. The activities, and I'll tell you, I have a tough time with IRE because it is probably one of the technologies I'm most excited about but I purposely don't talk about because I don't want to create expectations, that -- until I see the market activity. But clinically, Larry, seeing what's occurring with investigators who were using it for early intervention of local ablation's internationally, the response of the investigators, and I was saying, it's very, very exciting. But -- and just to be cautious and not overhype and overfocus. My attention is to focus on what are the things are going to deliver revenue today and when we achieve key clinical or technical milestones that I think represent near-term commercial activity, then I'll get more and more excited about it. But we are still investing in Nano. We are -- and the CROES study is actually happening, and when that safety study is over, we will go into a pivotal study. The Endourological Society over in Europe is very excited about it. And we have several investigators who are doing a bunch of procedures, and that could -- especially if the data continues, it could be a wonderful opportunity. So we are continued to be excited about it, and we'll see -- when we come up with important clinical milestones, Larry, we will be very vocal when we get there.