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Q4 2011 Earnings Call· Thu, Jan 26, 2012

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AutoNation, Inc. Q4 2011 Earnings Call Transcript

Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by and welcome to AutoNation's Fourth Quarter 2011 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Today's conference is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. Now I will turn the call over to Ms. Cheryl Scully, Treasurer and Vice President of Investor Relations for AutoNation.

Cheryl Scully

Analyst

Good morning, and welcome to AutoNation's fourth quarter and full year 2011 conference call and webcast. Leading our call today will be Mike Jackson, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Mike Maroone, our President and Chief Operating Officer; and Mike Short, our Chief Financial Officer. Following their remarks, we will open up the call for questions. Kate Keyser-Pearlman and I will also be available by phone following the call to address any additional questions that you may have. Before we begin, let me read our brief statement regarding forward-looking comments and the use of non-GAAP financial measures. Certain statements and information on this call will constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements involve risks, which may cause the actual results or performance to differ materially from expectations. Additional discussions of factors that could cause actual results to differ materially are contained in our SEC filings. Certain non-GAAP financial measures, as defined under SEC rules, may be discussed on this call. Reconciliations are available on our Investor Relations website at investors.autonation.com under Financials. And now I'll turn the call over to AutoNation's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Mike Jackson.

Michael J. Jackson

Analyst · Stephens

Good morning, thank you for joining us. Today, we reported an all-time record adjusted quarterly EPS from continuing operations of $0.51 for the fourth quarter, a 13% increase on a per share basis as compared to $0.45 for the same period in the prior year. Fourth quarter 2011 revenue totaled $3.7 billion compared to $3.2 billion in the year-ago period, an increase of 13%, driven primarily by stronger, new and used vehicle revenue. We also reported an increase of 7% in operating income to $144 million. In the fourth quarter, total U.S. industry new vehicle retail sales increased 7% based on CNW Research data. In comparison, during the same period, AutoNation's new vehicle unit sales increased 13%, or 10% on a same-store sales basis. For the full year, adjusted EPS from continuing operations of $1.94 was a record, up 24% over prior year. Revenue for the full year was up 11% over the prior year. In 2011, we repurchased 17.1 million shares, or $583 million, average price of $34.14. From January 1 to January 25, 2012, we have repurchased an additional 3.5 million shares or $122 million at an average price per share of $34.74. Since the year I arrived in 1999, we have bought back 395 million shares or $6.5 billion, at an average price of $16.44 per share. Today, we also announced that our Board of Directors authorized the repurchase of an additional $250 million of AutoNation common stock. AutoNation has $278 million remaining board authorization for share repurchase. AutoNation has an optimal brand and market mix that position us well for strong performance and new vehicle sales as the market rebounds. As we look at 2012, we believe that the improvement in new vehicle sales will continue. The recovery has 3 drivers: the first is the aged fleet on the road, which is now approaching 11 years old; the second is the accelerated price of new products being launched by the manufacturers; and, finally, the availability of credit financing to our customers. Our planning assumption for 2012 industry new vehicle light sales is 14 million units, which should be around a 10% improvement over 2011. We have been consistently demonstrating our ability to perform in what we expect to be a multiyear recovery in auto retail. I'll now turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Mike Short.

Mike Short

Analyst · Stephens

Thank you, Mike. And good morning, ladies and gentlemen. For the fourth quarter, we reported adjusted net income from continuing operations of $71 million, or $0.51 per share versus $68 million dollars, or $0.45 per share during the fourth quarter of 2010, a 13% improvement on a per share basis. Our fourth quarter results for this year exclude $1.4 million, which is $0.01 per share, of debt refinancing costs. There were no adjustments to net income in the prior-year period. Adjustments to net income are included in the reconciliations provided in our press release. Last quarter, we indicated that we expected to receive the remaining incentives under the Premium Luxury program during the fourth quarter. Gross profit was favorably impacted by $2 million this quarter due to these incentives. This compares to gross profit of $13 million from incentives recognized in the fourth quarter of 2010. In the fourth quarter, revenue increased $432 million, or 13% compared to the prior year, and gross profit improved by $35 million, or 6%. SG&A, as a percentage of gross profit, was 71.3% for the quarter, which represents an 80-basis-point improvement compared to the year-ago period. Excluding the benefit from the additional incentives in both quarters, SG&A as a percentage of gross profit improved by 220 basis points. In December, we entered into a new 5-year, unsecured credit agreement with a $500 million term loan facility and a $1.2 billion revolving credit facility. This refinancing extended our debt maturities, lowered our borrowing costs and increased our available liquidity, better aligning capacity with our growing EBITDA in a rising SAAR environment. In the new facility, the maximum leverage ratio increased from 3.25x to 3.75x, and the maximum capitalization ratio increased from 60% to 65%. We also decreased the pricing from LIBOR plus 225 basis points…

Michael E. Maroone

Analyst · Stephens

Thanks, Mike, and good morning. In addition to delivering the best ever EPS in the company's history for both a quarter and a full year, I'm pleased to report that for the fourth quarter and the full year, AutoNation achieved solid increases in both new and used unit volume, revenue growth across all areas of our business and double-digit gross profit growth for new vehicles and finance and insurance. In addition, we delivered a solid operating margin of 3.9% for the quarter and 4.1% for the full year, illustrating the resiliency of our business model and our ability to navigate changes in the marketplace. Fourth quarter total segment income of $133 million grew 8% or $10 million compared to the period a year ago, with increases across all 3 segments. A $44 million Domestic segment income increased $8 million, or 21%; import segment income of $53 million grew $7 million, or 15%; while Luxury segment income of $70 million grew by $4 million, or 6%. As I continue, my comments will be on a same-store basis compared to the quarter a year ago, unless noted otherwise. In the quarter, AutoNation delivered 59,000 new vehicles on a same-store basis, an increase of 10%, comparing favorably to industry retail sales, which were up 7% according to CNW Research. On a total-store basis, we recognized increases across all 3 segments, with Domestic new unit sales up 21%, Premium Luxury in new unit sales up 28%, and imports up 3% as supply continues to rebuild. Relative to geography, Texas was exceptionally strong in the quarter and our Florida and California markets showed solid improvement. At $2 billion, new vehicle revenue increased $257 million, or 14%, with revenue increases across all 3 segments driven by increased volume. Revenue per vehicle retailed was up $1200 or…

Michael J. Jackson

Analyst · Stephens

Thanks, Mike. Over the next several years, we will continue to see all the OEMs accelerate the new product launches with an industry average of over 40 launches per year through 2015. The industry replacement each year has historically averaged about 15%. This will increase to an average of 25% through 2015. This, along with an improving economy, a genuine replacement need, great financing, will drive new vehicle sales back to 16 million units. As we look at 2012, we believe that the improvement in new vehicle sales will continue. Our planning assumption for 2012, industry new vehicle unit sales is 14 million units, which would be a 10% improvement over 2011. We will now take questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question is coming from Rick Nelson of Stephens.

N. Richard Nelson - Stephens Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Stephens

I'd like to ask you, Mike, about the 14 million-unit SAAR forecast, what you're assuming about incentives, I guess, particularly from Toyota and Honda as their inventories normalize and do you think the domestics follow suit and...

Michael J. Jackson

Analyst · Stephens

Rick, I do not see any dramatic changes in the incentive gain. There could be some moves here and there, maybe the Japanese do something as their product availability comes online. But I really don't think that's the game, today, that I see in the marketplace. I can't describe to you how much closer production is aligned with consumers than 5 years ago, and both in quantity, type and configuration, and therefore, will you have to use extreme incentives to bridge the gap between what the consumer wants and what's been produced has been narrowed dramatically. Now there will always be tactical incentives, but I do not see the disconnect that existed in the past. Also, I believe the Japanese will regain share simply by having further improvement in availability, and they have a pretty good product cadence, also, to help them. So I see the share shaking up, probably, a 45-45 split between the Asians and Detroit, and with the Europeans taking the balance. And going forward, I don't see massive shares achieved through massive incentive programs. I really believe those days are behind us.

N. Richard Nelson - Stephens Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Stephens

I'd like to ask you about the margin, also, on the new car that grossed in the 2450 area. As inventories more fully recover, do you think we'd backtrack back to the first quarter where we were at 2200 a unit, where do you see the growth shaking up?

Michael E. Maroone

Analyst · Stephens

Rick, it's Mike Maroone. We are optimistic about our ability to manage margins. Obviously, it's subject to supply. Our goal is to take market share while maintaining or improving our margins. If you take out the onetime manufacture incentives from a year ago, we were up $267 in the quarter. All year, we have improved margins in the Domestic and Premium Luxury, in addition to the Imports. So the margin expansion was not just driven by the Import segment. So we think there's opportunity there, but of course, supply is also a driver.

N. Richard Nelson - Stephens Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Stephens

Now if I could ask a final question on the SG&A. To growth, how many, 1.3%. I went back, it looks like that's the lowest fourth quarter level we've seen since '04. But, obviously, unit volumes were a lot heavier for the industry, and, I guess, adjusted for some of the incentives you got a year ago, the big improvement, it was bigger. Where do you see SG&A as we're in this recovery mode?

Mike Short

Analyst · Stephens

Rick, this is Mike Short. As you know, this has been a focus item for the company for as long as AutoNation has been in existence. We're very focused on managing our net to gross and leveraging our cost structure. We got a lot of initiatives in place to continue to do that over time. We hold out there as the brass ring, the fact that we were below 70% as our historic low SG&A as a percentage of gross, and we intend to get back there and we're working hard to do it. And you're correct to point out that we are near record highs despite the fact that we are at still a much lower SAAR level, and I think that points to the level of productivity improvement that we've had organizationally during the downturn and it's a discipline we plan on staying on.

Operator

Operator

The next question is coming from Ravi Shanker of Morgan Stanley.

Ravi Shanker - Morgan Stanley, Research Division

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Another margin question, but this time on used in parts and services. I think you said in 3Q that the high acquisition costs, ahead of the inventory shortage, got a floor to your margins there. The sound [ph] that's below the 4Q as well, and also on parts and services, I think I can arguably say that warranty business is probably at a normalized level now versus an elevated level a couple of years ago. Does that mean that parts and services margins are probably going to be in this 41%, 42% range?

Michael E. Maroone

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

It's Mike Maroone. First, on the used car side. You're correct in what you said. The real pressure on used-car margins for us came out of the certified preowned, where we had some margin compression in both the Domestic, Import and Premium Luxury. We have reduced the size of our inventory. We're more focused to stay in that low 30-day supply and believe that there's some opportunity going forward in improving our used-car margins. And the service and parts side, or what we know call Customer Care, we also agreed that the warranty should be stabilized at this point, subject to any major recall activity. Our margin compression there is really our aggressiveness in going after the tire business and other businesses that we haven't been as deep in before. We've got a lot of initiatives in the company to penetrate the lower margin business that we believe long term is a key element in our customer retention strategy.

Ravi Shanker - Morgan Stanley, Research Division

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Is there any level of incremental margin for those businesses, i.e., as you mature in those business and grow them, do those margins improve as well?

Michael E. Maroone

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

I think they've got opportunity to grow. At this point in time, we want to earn the customers' business. The tire business, especially, has always been a lower-margin business, but I think there's other segments that we can penetrate in with the what we call a good, better, best strategy, and we're actively pursuing those. So I think there is some incremental margin opportunity going forward, but at this point, it's a share of a garage issue in attempting to have our customers return to us for all services, not just the select ones.

Ravi Shanker - Morgan Stanley, Research Division

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

And sticking with you, can you give us an update on the VVO initiative?

Michael E. Maroone

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

The VVO initiative? We now have 27 of those stores open and they're still maturing. We're still learning, and we're very optimistic. We believe that it's allowed us to expand our offerings to customers, giving customers much better choice in -- with less-expensive vehicles. And we would anticipate opening more of those as the year goes along. It's very linked to supply, so as long as the new vehicle markets stay strong, we believe we'll have the inventory to make those offerings to customers. So we feel very good about that business.

Ravi Shanker - Morgan Stanley, Research Division

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

All right. And just finally, a question for Mike Jackson. I think a couple of your large dealer peers have been on a bit of a dare with new acquisitions. Can you just comment on what you're seeing in the space and if you're going to go down that path as well?

Michael J. Jackson

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

We are looking in our existing footprint. We're looking for brands that we don't have in given markets. We've made some acquisitions, big Toyota stores, we've had some greenfield sites from Audi to FIAT. We're still very disciplined on price and we're always looking at the arbitrage between share repurchase and doing an acquisition with the risk premium on the acquisition. So my experience in these things is you never know, you never know. So we have no fixed target on acquisition or share repurchase. The only annual commitment we have on capital was to the existing stores, an aggressive investment in existing stores to make sure they're all top-flight; an ongoing commitment to invest in technology that we always are state-of-the-art; and then we really look at acquisitions and share repurchase opportunistically. So I really can't tell you how the year is going to unfold.

Ravi Shanker - Morgan Stanley, Research Division

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

On that point, have you given a CapEx forecast for 2012?

Mike Short

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes, we called that $145 million.

Operator

Operator

The next question is coming from John Murphy, Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

John Murphy - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst

First question, as we think about the industry, Mike Jackson, you've sort of highlighted there being a lot of rationalization on the automaker side, in particular on inventory, but there's also been a lot of rationalization in the last 4 or 5 years on the dealership counts, and we've declined by almost 5,000 dealers over the last 5 years. So just curious, are you seeing any -- the benefit to that consolidation yet and do you think those benefits may increase quite dramatically as the SAAR increases as well?

Michael J. Jackson

Analyst · Stephens

Ah, John, first and foremost, thank you for your work on the manufacturer's product cadence. It's the best in the industry. It's a must-read for us. Look, I think the consolidation that occurred in '08, '09 and '10, particularly the bankruptcy with the Domestics, was a mischance. It could've been far more comprehensive, particularly in the major markets. So I think there is some benefit there, but I would not say that it is what it could've been or should have been. And I still think there is more representation that's needed in the major metro markets. So There is some benefit, but I don't see some inflection point that I would call out and say, when the volume moves past this, you're going to see some huge payoff from it.

John Murphy - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst

Second question, just thinking about the share repose, it seems like you've gotten a lot more comfortable taking on leverage to buy back shares. I'm just curious, obviously, you have lots of room on your net debt-to-EBITDA covenant, but just curious as far as the limits on RP baskets that still exist and if you would be willing, really, to bump up against the net debt-to-EBITDA leverage covenant to really push the share buybacks, given where the shares are right now?

Mike Short

Analyst · Stephens

John, Mike Short here. Just a couple of things. First, mechanically, there is no basket. So our limits are...

Michael J. Jackson

Analyst · Stephens

Yes, we have an investment-grade covenants. There's no basket.

Mike Short

Analyst · Stephens

And so, our -- it's really the leverage ratio that's the governor on it, and I think the 2 characteristics I would use to describe the way we think about it is flexibility and being opportunistic. So in terms of flexibility, that's why you saw us go out and do the level of refinancing we did, and you can see how much flexibility that new credit facility got for the organization. And opportunistic is looking at value. Mike talked about the way we think about capital. We have and we'll continue to maintain a very strong balance sheet. We think it's one of the hallmarks of AutoNation, and it's a critical strategy for us. And so within that context, we try to redeploy capital in the most value creative way possible.

John Murphy - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst

And it would be fair to say, at this point, given that the level of share buybacks recently, you view your shares in the open market as the best return on capital, at this point?

Mike Short

Analyst · Stephens

Yes, again, it depends on the deal that comes...

Michael J. Jackson

Analyst · Stephens

And if you're looking backwards, absolutely, yes.

Mike Short

Analyst · Stephens

Yes, and that's -- you'll look at that relative to the next acquisition opportunity that comes up. If there's a golden opportunity that we identify through our business development team, then, at that point, that might become the better use of capital. But Mike's obviously correct, given our track record, we see the opportunity to create and believe we have created significant shareholder value through share repurchase over the years.

Michael J. Jackson

Analyst · Stephens

All the while, maintaining excellent liquidity, with daily trading volume that's 3.5x our peer group.

Mike Short

Analyst · Stephens

We remember the lesson of 2008, and that is that organizations like us do very well to be protected by a strong balance sheet and when the tide turns against you, you really want to have that strength there, and so we're covetous of that.

John Murphy - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst

Okay. And then just lastly, it sounds like a small nuance when you change the name of parts and service to Customer Care, but, actually, might be more than just a small nuance. I mean, just curious, as you're looking at that, is that going to be a whole rebranding effort in your stores, in your communication to customers, where instead of just being sort of a segment name, it really becomes a real branding tool in changing the name? Just curious, what kind of studies you've done there and, really, what kind of benefit that might drive in the new Customer Care segment?

Michael J. Jackson

Analyst · Stephens

John, if you look at, it's really -- there's really 2 indicators there. One, we changed the structure of the organization, and we don't do that lightly, but we say these 2 disciplines, these 2 opportunities, need a singular focus to realize all the potential that's there. Next, we have top talent taking both those responsibilities, and I think we have embraced a flag in the name that really says what that division is all about, and that is caring for the customer. So everything that goes behind that has to wait for another day, and we will talk about it on another day, but as an indicator of seriousness and direction, yes.

Operator

Operator

The next question is coming from Patrick Archambault, Goldman Sachs.

Patrick Archambault - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst

I guess, first, on the comment you had about the product cadence, you said that, that was 1 of 3 reasons for driving growth forward for this year in terms of volume. Curious, what your experience in the past tells you about product cadence and pricing for you guys. I mean, it's obvious that new product will help repricing, but in terms of sort of the premium to MSRP or maybe not the premium, but lessening maybe the discount to MSRP, is it something that we should look to as having a positive gross margin impact for you guys as well?

Michael J. Jackson

Analyst · Stephens

Absolutely, Patrick. You're spot on. There's no question that new product is a tremendous benefit and a tremendous margin opportunity, depending on market acceptance and volume of Premium Luxury, how long that opportunity is there can really vary. But we're really -- it's a combination, we're really in a new era here where we have this increased product cadence complying with manufacturing discipline, with a focus on producing what the customer actually wants. So I see the potential for profitable growth at both the retail level and the manufacturer level. There are still certain manufacturer practices that are inconsistent with that, stair-step incentives being one of them. It's a very destructive incentive program that we would wish would go away. There's still practices out there that are not in alignment with where today's customers and today's marketplace is. We work against them so we're not at perfection yet, but we're in a dramatically different world with a lot more opportunity. We are simply not going -- as we make this journey back to 16 million plus units, it would be completely wrong to say, oh they're just going back to where it was. That is not the case. It is a new world with new opportunities. Very exciting.

Patrick Archambault - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst

Great. And one more on used, if I can fit it in. The ratio, the used-to-new ratio went to 70 from a run rate of more or less the high 70s over the last, call it, looks like the 5, 6 quarters. How should we think about that going forward? Is -- are we reaching a point in the cycle where we're kind of changing, seeing a change in the tide between new and used demand and used growth going forward is going to be permanently slow and permanently meaning slower over a sustainable period of time or is this just a temporary issue with inventory acquisition costs, how do we think about that?

Michael E. Maroone

Analyst · Stephens

It's Mike Maroone. I think that there is still lots of opportunity in used. I think the new vehicle market had obviously shrunk. The used vehicle market has been more stable. So now we're seeing recovery in new. We're projecting more recovery in new. But I think there's still plenty of opportunity in used. We were still able to grow our used volume by 5%, our revenue by 8%. Yes, supplies are tight. We are working very hard on alternative supplies, doing some very creative online buying. And I think it's a supply-driven issue, but we still see plenty of opportunity in the used vehicle business, and it may not be as volatile as the new business, but it's -- there's still a lot there, and I think we'll continue to work hard to improve our capabilities there.

Operator

Operator

The next question is coming from Simeon Gutman of Credit Suisse. Simeon Gutman - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: We talked about F&I, Mike had mentioned a few of the drivers. Can you expand a little and maybe talk, if the mix of vehicle's helping, and then as we think about returning Japanese supply next year, how that factors into the F&I per car?

Michael E. Maroone

Analyst · Credit Suisse

It's Mike Maroone. First of all, we are very pleased with our F&I performance. It's the first time on a full year basis that we've exceeded $1200. I think it's a reflection of our ongoing efforts in store operations with training and certifying and continually working on compliance issues, so there's a strong tactical effort. More importantly, the lender environment is very favorable for both customers and retailers, there's a lot of lenders that have had great experiences with automotive credit and there's certainly some aggressive buying going on. In our company, there's going to be a continued or an even stronger focus on products and we've done a good job on products in the past, but specifically, on vehicle service contracts and prepaid maintenance, more on sending our whole organization to do a better job of linking that customer, bringing him back into our Customer Care business. So I think there's more opportunity there. I think it's a very good environment, and I see it doing nothing but getting better going forward. Simeon Gutman - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: Okay. And then, as a follow-up -- not a follow-up. I guess, talking about the middle of this year where we have an interesting period where we cycle some fantastic grosses from last year. The volume should be better, but how do you -- I guess, how did you manage it last year? It was something smoothed out as far as compensating on gross versus volumes? And how do you manage the potential volatility that the business could see because of that event or that dynamic that took place?

Michael E. Maroone

Analyst · Credit Suisse

It's Mike Maroone again. I think we did a very good job in Q2 and Q3. We developed a proprietary pricing tool. And the pricing tool itself doesn't get more gross, what it does is it helps your stores have in their mind what is the target on a per-vehicle basis, benchmarking a lot of market data. And I think the tool and the training that goes with it really helped us with our margins. Certainly, as we go back to normalized inventory level, the margins will drop some, but I think we still have an opportunity to expand margins above a predisruption level, and that is clearly our target here. Supply is a big driver, but -- so we have an assumption that there is going to be some real thinking done by the OEMs and that the market will not be heavily oversupplied. But we think we can do a good job if you take out the onetime manufacturer incentives from Q4 of 2010 and this year, take them out of both years, our gross is -- we're up $267 a quarter, Q4 '11 over Q4 '10. I don't think we can necessarily maintain that kind of spread, but I think we can be very positive. We are very encouraged to see margin expansion in the Domestic and Premium Luxury, not just in the Import segment, which gives us a little bit of confidence in our capabilities. Simeon Gutman - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: Okay, and then, I guess, follow-on to that, the pricing analytic tool, how are you measuring how much better it's helping gross versus what the business is sort of giving you naturally?

Michael E. Maroone

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Well, first of all, what we do with that tool is we use 3 of third-party benchmarks before we set our prices. So we're looking at a number of different sites saying what are vehicles sold in that market. We then establish a target and what we call a floor price and we measure our stores' performance against those target and floor prices. I think, ultimately, the bottom line is, is that you want to take market share and we measure market share very carefully, well, improving your margins. And I think we're doing a decent job at that, but it's an ongoing effort.

Operator

Operator

The last question is coming from Mr. Rod Lache of Deutsche Bank.

Rod Lache - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

Also just a follow-up on used. It looks like the supply of used vehicles is going to decline quite a bit in 2012 and '13, just because there was such a big a downturn in '08, '09 and '10. But you're mentioning that you think that used margins can continue to rise, and I'm just trying to just square the various issues. Are you thinking that there's very little impact on you guys from the shifting kind of demographics in the used market, or on your comps? You mentioned some alternative inventory sources that becoming -- is there enough momentum there to offset it? Can you give us any color on how big a factor that's been for you?

Michael E. Maroone

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

Well, this is -- it's Mike Maroone. There's no question that supply is very tight. What we know is that we don't believe that we want to be a big auction buyer and bid against several hundred other people on the same car. So our focus is twofold: one is, it's doing a better job in store, so we measure our stores' ability to generate appraisals and what appraisals they win, it's a key metric for us in our operating strategy. So we call it buying at the door. We want to acquire more vehicles at the door. It obviously creates a transaction, gives us a number of margin and revenue opportunities. But at the same time, we don't want to limit ourselves there, because we do believe that the market is so much larger and has so much more potential. So we are doing online work with a number of different -- we're doing some acquisition with eBay, so with Edmunds, with Autobytel, using some online opportunities to get out and buy some cars. And there are early efforts, but we're very optimistic about our capability of buying cars online, and it's a very customer-friendly process as well. So we really look at those 2 as opportunities and we believe that the more inventory we can acquire at the right price, the more sales opportunity we have, and I think it's got an opportunity to pay off going forward.

Rod Lache - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

Do you have any statistics you could share on the percentage you source nowadays from auctions versus where it used to be just to kind of for us to be able to gauge the success you're having there. And just also on the retail side, I'm wondering, are you seeing any changes in the advanced rates that banks are offering on the used cars side of the market, just given how much used car prices have risen?

Michael E. Maroone

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

Let me start with the auction first. I don't have a ready stat at my hands, but I will tell you that most of our auction buying is certified preowned units that are bought online. It's a unique opportunity to keep our people in the stores and buy specific products that we need to fill out our CPO footprint. Beyond the CPO footprint, we buy very little at auctions.

Rod Lache - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

Do you have any thoughts on the financing market for used?

Michael E. Maroone

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

The financing market is -- first of all, the financing environment is very healthy right now. I can't tell you the advanced rates are way up, but what I can tell you is the lenders that really want that business are looking at both the advanced rate and the quality of customer. And we've got plenty of lender opportunities, and financing doesn't seem to be anything that can hold back that business at this point.

Michael J. Jackson

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

Thank you, everyone, for joining us today.

Operator

Operator

This will conclude today's conference. All parties may disconnect at this time.