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American Woodmark Corporation (AMWD)

Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Thu, May 26, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the American Woodmark Corporation Fourth Fiscal Quarter 2022 Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded, May 26, 2022. During this call, the company may discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures included in our earnings release, such as adjusted net income, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, free cash flow, net leverage and adjusted EPS per diluted share. The earnings release, which can be found on our website americanwoodmark.com, includes definitions of each of these non-GAAP financial measures, the company's rationale for their usage and a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures. We also use our website to publish other information that may be important to investors, such as investor presentations. We will begin the call by reading the company's Safe Harbor statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All forward-looking statements made by the company involve material risks and uncertainties and are subject to change based on factors that may be beyond the company's control. Accordingly, the company's future performance and financial results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in any such forward-looking statements. Such factors include but are not limited to those described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and the annual report to shareholders. The company does not undertake to publicly update or revise its forward-looking statements even if experience or future changes make it clear that any projected results expressed or implied therein will not be realized. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Paul Joachimczyk, Vice President and CFO. Please go ahead sir.

Paul Joachimczyk

Management

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to American Woodmark's fourth fiscal quarter conference call. Thank you all for taking the time today to participate. Joining me is Scott Culbreth, President and CEO. Scott will begin with a review of the quarter and I'll add additional details regarding our financial performance. After our comments, we'll be happy to answer your questions. Scott?

Scott Culbreth

Management

Thank you, Paul and thanks to everyone for joining us today for our fourth fiscal quarter earnings call. Our teams delivered fourth fiscal quarter net sales of $501.7 million, a growth of 6%. Our made-to-order backlog represented by days of production decreased slightly versus the prior quarter but remains elevated. Our April made-to-order production levels were at all-time highs. The staffing levels and performance of our supply base continues to improve, and we ramp up our new assembly line in our Gas City plant. Our stock platform was challenged with staffing levels, leading to a decline in units versus the prior year. Our operations team has developed a number of actions we will execute by the fall to increase capacity of stock kitchen and bath production via footprint adjustments are being shifted to other locations within our network along with the addition of new sales. We're also implementing new compensation plans to improve attraction and retention of employees. Within new construction, our business grew 8.5% versus prior year. Strong order growth remained across our markets. Interest rate increases and home price increases created a concern in the market that a slowdown is possible. We monitor many factors when assessing the strength of the market and note that although mortgage rates are 12-year highs, rents have been increasing and housing inventory remains low. Our backlog is healthy and should for any short-term disruptions in demand. Looking at our remodel business, which includes our home center and independent dealer distributor businesses, revenue grew 4.5% versus the prior year. Within this, our home center business was up 2.5%. Our made-to-order business and stock kitchen business delivered above-average comps for the period. With regards to our dealer distributor business, we were up 11.9% for the quarter as remodel demand remained strong. Our adjusted EBITDA…

Paul Joachimczyk

Management

Thank you, Scott. Financial headlines for the quarter. Net sales were $501.7 million, representing an increase of 6% over the same period last year. Adjusted net income was $22.9 million or $1.38 per diluted share in the current fiscal year versus $22.5 million or $1.32 per diluted share last year. Adjusted net income for the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2022 increased $0.4 million due to higher sales and a onetime tax benefit, partially offset by higher material and logistics costs, combined with supply chain disruptions. Adjusted EBITDA for the fourth fiscal quarter was $44.5 million or 8.9% of net sales compared to $48.2 million or 10.2% of net sales for the same quarter of the prior fiscal year. Financial results for the fiscal year ended April, net sales for the current fiscal year were $1.857 billion, representing an increase of $113.2 million or 6.5% from the prior fiscal year. Adjusted net income was $54.8 million or $3.30 per diluted share in the current fiscal year versus $111.4 million or $6.54 per diluted share for the prior fiscal year. Adjusted EBITDA for the current fiscal year was $138 million or 7.4% of net sales compared to $226.5 million or 13.0% of net sales for the prior fiscal year. Just a reminder that our prior year financials were restated due to the change in accounting methodologies from LIFO to FIFO for our inventory. Looking at our sales channels for the quarter, the combined home center and independent dealer and distributor channel net sales increased 4.5% for the quarter, with home centers increasing 2.5% and dealer and distributor increasing 11.9%. New construction net sales increased 8.5% for the fourth fiscal quarter. Timberlake direct business grew both in units and dollars as demand continued to be strong throughout the quarter. New construction sales…

Operator

Operator

The first question is from Julio Romero of Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

Julio Romero

Analyst

Hey. Good morning. Thanks very much for taking the questions.

Scott Culbreth

Management

Hey. Good morning, how are you?

Julio Romero

Analyst

I guess to start on the quarter, can you talk about how much price dollars you realized in the fourth quarter?

Scott Culbreth

Management

I'll just share that we didn't come in quite at what we had expected, primarily due to a function of lower shipments. A quarter ago, we had predicted and communicated approximately $55 million. We did come in below that. Again, more of a function of units and not a function of price capture.

Julio Romero

Analyst

I guess thinking about the more recent price increases. I was hoping you could put a finer point on how much incremental price capture you expect from the, I believe, third round of price that started flowing through in April and maybe how much dollars you expect from the fourth round of July increases?

Scott Culbreth

Management

Yes. I'll just say, Julio, that's all built into the overall guidance for the year. I'm hesitant to get into the details specifically on that because we've not finalized all the communication of each of those elements of this most recent price increase. So the 1 you're referring to is the fourth as all effective July 1 for our new construction dealer distributor business. The time line and effective percent for home centers is, of course, going to be something that we'll be working on over the coming weeks. But it's built into the overall guidance of both mid-teens to high-teens growth overall for the year as well as the EBITDA range that Paul shared with you.

Julio Romero

Analyst

I guess the last one for me is just based on the prepared commentary. I guess, you expect the price lag to delay sequential EBITDA margin expansion until Q2 to Q4. I guess how do we think about Q1 EBITDA margins? Do you expect in the same range of the fourth quarter or a step down from the fourth quarter EBITDA margin? .

Scott Culbreth

Management

My expectation is it will be comparable to Q4.

Julio Romero

Analyst

Okay. Thanks very much for taking the questions. I'll hop back in queue.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Garik Shmois of Loop Capital. Please go ahead.

Garik Shmois

Analyst

Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to be clear on the sales guidance as it relates to volumes, are you anticipating volume growth in fiscal '23? And just how should we think about that in the context of the labor additions that you're shooting for?

Scott Culbreth

Management

So our guidance does include unit growth inside fiscal year '23. Of course, price is a major driver of that mid-teens to high teens, but we do have volume growth factored in as well.

Garik Shmois

Analyst

Okay. Is it fair to assume that the volume growth should be a little bit more weighted as you move through the fiscal year?

Scott Culbreth

Management

I'm sorry, could you repeat that question?

Garik Shmois

Analyst

Yes. Just a follow-up was, should we assume the volume growth will be to the extent that it occurs, a bit more back half weighted given the timing of the labor additions?

Scott Culbreth

Management

No, I don't think that's how it will necessarily play out when you're thinking about quarterly comps. We would expect likely stronger overall sales growth, I believe, in the first half and second half.

Garik Shmois

Analyst

I wanted to ask just 1 bigger picture question, just how you're thinking about revenue growth moving forward, just considering some of the weaker housing data points of late? Are you seeing any change at all in whether it's kind of order rates or the rate of kind of the backlog? Just any kind of big picture color that you have around the macro environment would be helpful.

Scott Culbreth

Management

Sure. Yes, a couple of thoughts I can share there. Obviously, home price appreciation is a factor that we're all seeing and experiencing. We certainly have a thesis that, that drives home improvement demand, specifically back on the repair and model side. And I think consumers are going to continue to invest in their homes. On the new construction side, we continue to be underbuilt. There's still demand there even at higher prices and at higher rates. And our belief is new construction is going to continue to be strong, certainly for us throughout the remainder of this calendar year. . Other data points that we take a look at is CPI, which is -- we've seen increases there that have been significant and they're starting to erode consumer confidence, the interest rates already touched on, and obviously, in fact, the affordability for new homebuyers, but rents are also increasing at record rates. So if you're looking for a place to live, both are increasing, how do you navigate both of those particular situations. Recently looking at the backlog of single-family homes under construction, significant growth in the most recent reported period, 26% growth and now at the highest level since November 2006. It starts still grew -- authorized starts, sorry, in the month of April by 9%. We continue to see very tight supply. So we're still pretty bullish on new construction. We're not seeing anything slow down with our customers. Switching over to repair and model, a bit of a foot traffic lag in the month of May. I'll tell you that May was our highest comp period, specifically in some of our pre-model customers. So we were expecting a slowdown. It came in a little light to that. So that's what we're keeping our eye on is exactly what the trends will be over the summer months in repair and remodel.

Garik Shmois

Analyst

Great. Thanks for the color and best of luck.

Scott Culbreth

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Steven Ramsey of Thompson Research Group. Please go ahead.

Steven Ramsey

Analyst

Maybe to continue with this line of thought, the bookends of your sales guidance on the low or high side of that. Is that most dependent on units delivered and are those units -- is that more dependent on incoming orders or shipments of the existing backlog?

Scott Culbreth

Management

It's more dependent on the price actions that we've communicated, and we'll be realizing in fiscal year '23 as well as shipments through the backlog.

Steven Ramsey

Analyst

And then on the EBITDA guidance and the sequential expansion through the year, is there a cadence to that? Or will it be pretty steady coming off of Q1?

Scott Culbreth

Management

Yes, I don't want to give exact percentages by quarter, but we would expect it to continue to improve each quarter as we push throughout the year, certainly will be positive from a year-over-year standpoint in each quarter.

Steven Ramsey

Analyst

And then last quick 1 for me. The dealer/distributor growth far outpacing the home centers, can you go into what factors drove that delta there? And if you expect dealer distributor to continue at a pace that is superior to the home centers?

Scott Culbreth

Management

Yes. A bit of that was just the overall strength of our major order business. And as I mentioned earlier, we were able to get the output across that platform certainly in the month of April and the dealer/distributor business took a larger percentage share of that shipment volume in that particular period. So that was 1 of the key drivers.

Steven Ramsey

Analyst

Helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Josh Chan of Baird. Please go ahead.

Josh Chan

Analyst

Hi. Good morning, Scott and Paul. Thanks for taking my questions. I guess from a price/cost perspective, by the end of fiscal '23, do you expect to have sort of caught up all the inflation in '22 and '23 combined? Is that how we should think about sort of price versus cost next year?

Scott Culbreth

Management

Absolutely. That's how we've modeled it with the assumptions both on the price side as well as future inflation that we're expecting.

Josh Chan

Analyst

And then I think, Scott, you had mentioned like $90 -- $90 million kind of number in your prepared remarks, can you kind of contextualize for us like how you meant -- what you meant to communicate there? Because I think you mentioned something about that being associated with the high end. So is it the case that your EBITDA should grow by something less than $90 million, all the way up to $90 million, is that the right way to think about it?

Scott Culbreth

Management

So compare that with Paul's remark, he indicated EBITDA margin percentages on the full year would be high single to low digit. At the high teens growth rate, $90 million would put you in that low double digit. So basically just walking you towards the high end of the range that Paul communicated.

Josh Chan

Analyst

And then I guess last question for me is -- are you seeing any kind of continued pushouts in terms of the builder cadence because of supply chain issues or labor or any other combination? Is there any risk that the builder schedules need to be kind of further reduced from where we are now? Or are you seeing sort of improvement on that front?

Scott Culbreth

Management

I would say it's been similar. No significant improvement or deterioration. So we've been in that mode for quite some time. The category moves around. It typically drives the delay, specifically on the completion of the home. For us, getting the home drying getting windows on pretty important before you can start getting the sheet rock up and getting the cabinets on. So we've adjusted that over the last fiscal year. So we understand extended cycle times from when a home starts to when the cabinet install is going to begin, and we've not really seen a significant change in the last 90 days.

Josh Chan

Analyst

Great. Thanks guys and good luck for the rest of the year.

Scott Culbreth

Management

Thanks Josh.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Collin Verron of Jefferies.

Collin Verron

Analyst

I was just wondering if you could touch on what sort magnitude of cost inflation you guys have baked into your 2023 EBITDA margin guide and sort of walk through the cost buckets where you're seeing the most pressure and where you're starting to see maybe some relief?

Scott Culbreth

Management

Yes. So in my remarks, approximately 7.5% above and beyond on COGS versus what we experienced in fiscal year '22. A lion's share of that's in materials, and it's across the main commodities we buy. So whether that be MDF, particleboard, plywood, hardwood you name the commodity. We've got ongoing carryover inflation as well as some new inflation modeled into that percentage.

Collin Verron

Analyst

And then just in terms of -- you touched on some of the pressures that the consumer is feeling from rising costs, have you guys started to see any changes in your product mix that's being ordered is these dynamics? Any color there would be helpful.

Scott Culbreth

Management

We've not yet seen any significant movement in mix across our customer base. The 1 exception might be, as I think about our new construction customers. Our origins offering, which is more tailored to opening price point. If builders start to shift more towards that as part of their overall offering, we may see some mix shift into that category versus our core Timberlake offering, but it's not been significant to date.

Collin Verron

Analyst

Great. Thank you for the color and good luck with the fiscal year.

Scott Culbreth

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from McClaran Hayes of Zelman & Associates. Please go ahead.

McClaran Hayes

Analyst

Hey, how is it going. I was just wondering if you could provide a little bit more detail on the backlog conversion in your stock business, it was good to see that improve in the mid to order. But where are the challenges in stock? And I guess what are some of your action plans to address that?

Scott Culbreth

Management

Yes. So specifically on the stock side, our issue has been around labor as well as availability of materials into the platform. The material availability has improved. So our real challenges of weight has been around staffing levels. So we've put a number of changes into place on our three major stock assembly plants around compensation as well as attraction and retention programs in those facilities. But maybe more meaningfully, we are doing some things to move capacity around across the network. So when you think about our stock plants, we're principally producing stock kitchen and bath in those particular facilities. Moving bath cells to other destinations where labor is a bit more available, and that will allow us to redeploy the existing labor in the stock plants back in the kitchen. So we're executing those plans throughout the summer. And by fall, we expect to have some capacity gains in both our bath and kitchen business, which will allow us to ship. Touching on the notion of backlog, just the backlog is really a commentary specific to our made-to-order business. Our stock business doesn't have what I call sort of a classic backlog definition. We're basically selling into the home centers, meeting their inventory needs. So where you would see that is we're not at the appropriate inventory levels inside the retailer. So that's how we're managing what the overall backlog is in that business, and we've got opportunity to make improvement against that.

McClaran Hayes

Analyst

And then just lastly, any supply disruptions related to like Russian birch or the geopolitical conflict that you guys have had to manage around?

Scott Culbreth

Management

Nothing significant. We don't buy anything directly. We did have some secondary and tertiary supply that came through some of our vendors, and they've been navigating that with alternate solutions to mitigate the risk.

Operator

Operator

As I do not see there is anyone else waiting to ask a question. I would like to turn the line over to Mr. Joachimczyk for any closing comments. Please go ahead, sir.

Paul Joachimczyk

Management

Since there are no additional questions, this concludes our call. Thank you for taking the time to participate.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.