It's -- actually, we're talking about delivering a beta system here this fiscal year. We delivered a beta system in degaussing several years ago, and we've already done at sea trials. We have operational experience, and we already have an order for systems on our books, as you know. I think the hard part -- to be very blunt, in dealing with the same size or bigger than the degaussing, the permanent system, and I know that doesn't make your life easier in trying to predict revenues, but in the near term, we're trying to get the permanent solution on yet another ship platform. We're trying to get the portable solution through beta, go through qualification and do all the testing. And then at that point, it's probably the right time to ask that question again, which is now that you understand really the functionality, can you talk about the size of it? From a value standpoint, the deployable system certainly is not on the size of the large ships, but it's in the range of a small ship, let's say. If you do simple math, the surface fleet is just north of 200 ships. If they're building new builds of 8, 10, 12 a year between now and 2040, it means we're only getting at a fraction of that surface ship market. So the hope is this deployable solution will help be able to get value in the fleet faster. And when I say faster, I mean, let's say, in the first year, they build 10 ships and say there's 200 in the total fleet, right, so we have 190 still that we don't have addressable, but they become open with this deployable solution. So when you go out in time, the hope is it doesn't take us 10 years to get the technology in the whole surface fleet. We can do that faster with a permanent plus a deployable solution. And that's what the Navy's after, and that's why they've funded us to do the second product, this deployable solution.