Joseph Zakrzewski
Management
Yes, on NCE, guys, again just to remind people, we except that we're getting approval and then you'll also expect in the Orange Book that's issued in the following month, that's when you find out if you got into there [ph] or not. I would just say, commenting that getting the patent issued, the 598 patent, I think it's taken a lot of pressure off the NCE. Of course, while we feel very strong in our position to get the 5 years, as well as the benefits of the drug, a lot of, I would say, the tanks [ph] with NCE, we still want to build the, if you will, the moat around the castle, the electrified trench as we build exclusivity around the product. I think a lot of the pressure is off there. I think -- while the FDA could always give you 0 or 3 or 5 years, we think we should get 5. We think worst case, again, you can never guarantee, it's probably 3. And however you structure that, however that works out, it gives you plenty of time to continue leveraging other patents, and it gives you plenty of time to continue leveraging other trade secrets and other manufacturing barriers to entry. So we feel pretty good. I think in a simple way maybe, Tommy, is what I'm saying is that pressure is not the same as what it was, okay? I think a lot of what was out there on us, and clearly, watch -- what's happened to the stock price. What the Street was probably feeling was, "Great, they've got the one patent, hopefully there are others coming." I think the getting guaranteeing the 5 years of NCE becomes less of an issue. Although we are doing everything that we can proactively with the agency here. And again, I can't comment too much on there, but we've got a great team led by Joe Kennedy, our General Counsel, and working with outside folks, just doing everything we can as possible. Again, this is about protecting the overall exclusivity of the asset.