Jay Horgen
Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.
So let me take the second part of your question, Dan, and just talk about the outlook for maybe some of the businesses and the flow profile of those businesses really the pipeline. Putting this into the -- in context that overall, we're about 41% alternatives. Of that, something like 20%-25% in the neighborhood is liquid alternatives. And as Tom said, good performance, the assets are up and in general, pipelines are growing for those firms. So I would just highlight the names for everyone, Systematica, AQR, Capula, Garda, Winton, and maybe to talk a little bit more about two of them. I think I would highlight Systematica, and that's a business that we made an incremental investment in January of last year -- this year, excuse me, at the very beginning of this year. And the performance, again, is kind of a microcosm of all of these firms. Systematica's SAM business. Systematic alternative markets is what it's called. It's up more than 50% since the beginning of 2021. Blue Trend this year is up 36%. That is consistent with a number of products that they have as well as at AQR and some of the other affiliates. So I'm just trying to give you a flavor using this one as an example. I think the other thing that I would say is, on AQR, as people know, after some choppy times, their liquid alts business has really come back, and they're having similar performance in their products. They have kind of two businesses within AQR, liquid alts business and a long-only quant business. And even the quant business, we're seeing the flows begin to ameliorate in particular because of their value consciousness and that's another theme that we've pointed out that value-sensitive investing is coming back. This year, value has outperformed growth by an enormous amount, and we think that will continue. So taking those two businesses together, when you look at pipelines and you look at forward prospects for new client flows, they are both building. And so we're constructive on flows into 2023 in these products.