David S. Graziosi
Analyst · Morgan Stanley
Angel, it's David, thank you for those questions. Let me -- I got a lot in there. Let me try to unpack that one a little bit. So your question or your comment on backlogs, clearly, the industry is catching up with what was a very challenging time for all market participants. So a lot of costs being incurred to get product out the door. Clearly, the market's dramatically improved. Suppliers have caught up. The one, I think, portion of the market that really is not -- it's improved, but I don't think it's really moved yet, thus still a constraint, our bodybuilders. So to your point on backlogs, yes, those have certainly come down. Inventory is in a better position at the retail level. There's also a fair amount of chassis sitting at bodybuilders, which is why we believe the North America OEMs, which I think is to your question, why they've made the adjustments. I don't think any of them really want to be in a position of entering 2026 to get to your other point there and really what is an oversupplied market, especially given the amount topics for uncertainty would seem to be, frankly, endless and being added to every day, whether it be tariffs. You asked about EPA emissions, financing costs, macroeconomic outlook, et cetera, pick your item, but it's hard -- it's not unreasonable to appreciate the position of end users, which are really in a highly uncertain wait-and-see mode. So that reluctance has then translated into this point about deferring investment decisions to more clarity is available. And I think some of the OEMs have talked about that, thus the reduction in build rates, which I think better positions the overall industry going into '26 to get to your other points there in terms of 232, certainly, the commercial vehicle industry has commented on that extensively with public comment letters, et cetera. So we're tracking it as well as everybody else. Having said that, to earlier comments on the call, we believe we're very well positioned in terms of USMCA sourcing. So the vast majority of what we use is actually sourced out of the U.S. and to a degree the balance out of Mexico and Canada. But we're, I think, very well placed in that regard and positioned. Also, as part of that, as you think about other things that are happening from a regulatory perspective, the most recent announcements from the EPA over the last probably 2 to 3 weeks, as you know, are very meaningful in terms of potentially changing the entire missions regimen, if you will, around whether it be greenhouse gas, et cetera. So we, like the rest of the industry are waiting for clarity there. That being said, as I think you're familiar, our products do not require significant meaningful changes with emissions changes. So our product portfolio exists today for On-Highway. It is very well placed to be compliant, whether that be current regs or future regulations. So the work is done. The products are ready and I think we'll await more clarity from the market. But as I said earlier, overall, our view right now is North America On-Highway is more of a deferred versus a loss in longer-term demand.