Stephen Trundle
Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open
Good question, Saket. So the amount of rip and replace is actually declining somewhat. The team we have at OpenEye has for a long time, supported a wide variety of cameras on the video side. Some of that supports enabled via a standard that is known as ONVIF. So we support a pretty wide range of cameras, not just our own. And what that enables is for us to go to a potential commercial customer and get them on platform, get them all the value of our cloud services without ripping out everything they have. Obviously, newer cameras and newer models enable more functionality. And especially on the analytics side, more of the analytics is being done on the edge, on the camera. So more capabilities are possible with newer equipment, but you want to sort of land and then expand, and that's what we're trying to do. We brought that capability back into the full Alarm.com platform, by the way meaning broader camera support. On the access side and I talked a little bit about the access control market. There, we are using fairly -- in most cases, we are leveraging what are fairly common market standard readers, which are the devices that you actually see next to a door that someone scans in or out with. So we can go in. In this case, I mean, of course, our service provider partner can go in and take over a lot of those existing readers and begin to deliver enhanced new services without a ton of rip and replace. We're increasingly trying to avoid having to always kind of especially the commercial customer and these bigger ones, we just can't go in with the rip and replace message and be successful very often. So try to avoid that as much as we can. To your comment about the TAM, I mean, I think -- we think we're sort of early days in our penetration of the TAM. The TAM is generally regarded as every small business or enterprise in North America, if we at least look at the North American TAM, number of sites there, I try to think do we have sizing for roughly 4.5 million, 5 million sites, we think are available, and we're sort of steadily chipping away at that.