Kenneth Bernstein
Analyst · Green Street Advisors
Kind of. So -- and I was touching on this before, Jay. The sales run the gamut. And so as you can imagine, if you have a thriving Lululemon, for instance, who can do $2,000 a foot in sales in a $1,000 a foot market in general, rent-to-sales are going to look very well. But Lulu, to their credit, said, "That's fine. Those are our sales, not your sales." So it really does run the gamut. And I would caution any of us from being overly focused on just that metric because, as I said before, not all sales are created equal. And as you get into the higher-higher-productive locations, rent-to-sales is less of a factor, when we talk to our retailers, than a broad base of factors. That being said, what we are seeing is, in our suburban portfolio, the flexibility that I was just articulating does not seem to come up in our retailer conversations with the many retailers that I love very much but ranging from Bed Bath & Beyond to T.J. Maxx. And they're very disciplined about their rent-to-sales ratio. Those two will range but they'll often be single digit, high single digit, to 12%, 13%, in some instances. And they need to be -- if it is a more common productivity location, they're going to be very vigilant about that. They have their model, they have their tight margins and they need to watch that carefully. So the suburban side, it matters, and we would need to drill down retailer or category by category because, as you can imagine, Kmart sales -- and a good Kmart looks very different than a good Target. On the street retail side, we're watching it because we need to know in general that not only are our retailers passionate about coming to Rush Street, passionate about being on M Street in Georgetown, but that they're also profitable. And in those discussions, they have assured us they're are not doing these leases with us for kicks. These are profitable locations. They're renewing because they're profitable locations, but the -- I am hesitant to point to one rent-to-sales and say, "This is good. And anything higher rent-to-sales than that, we're in trouble, and anything lower, we're safe," because it just doesn't play out that way.