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Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your live is not live
Yes. Hey Korinne, it's Todd. So what I would say is, obviously, we believe in the business long-term, which is why we're heavily investing in lead gen. Our cost basis has definitely gone up. A lot of that is due to just competitive activity. But -- there's a few changes that we've made that seem to be really -- the early signs are very, very promising, which is what is giving us the optimism. Number one, we've kind of way -- historically, we've relied very heavily on paid search. It's been kind of the majority of our kind of lead gen efforts. We're starting to diversify away from that solely. And so we've been experimenting with connected TV, display media retargeting. In some markets, we've done some radio and outdoor. And what we're seeing actually is more organic search, which obviously is very promising for us. So ultimately, you're seeing more people come to us as opposed to us to ultimately go out and kind of buy those leads, if you will. So that's very encouraging, and we're seeing that part of it. The second is what a new initiative or kind of doubling down on an initiative, which is our -- what we call existing or aged leads. We have a lot of people kind of in our databases that obviously are interested, but have not converted. A lot of our effort over the last year or so has been put against people that are first coming in, those kind of fresh leads, we have all these leads that we can go after and try to convert. So now with some of our analytics tools, we're able to get to them a little bit more selectively, and we're seeing some very promising improvement there. And then lastly, just optimization of our paid search. I mean it will remain a key lever for us, but we're always trying to kind of optimize the spending and make sure that it's more efficient and more targeted. We're doing things with ZIP codes, get to the right people, and getting the right messages to the right people. So there's a lot of changes that we've made. And again, the early signs, as Dennis pointed out, leads are really just kind of the leading indicator. Obviously, those ultimately have to convert to sales and then eventually to procedures. So the early indication on leads, which are improving, but it's also just the quality of the leads that we're seeing, which are a lot of them are coming from organic search, which tend to be higher-intent consumers. So that's kind of the headline, I would say on your question related to CAC. In the short-term, our CAC is going to remain high. We are keeping our foot down on the pedal to drive that revenue. But over time, all of these changes that we're making should ultimately enable us to be much more efficient in our spending. In general, if you're going to get more organic search as opposed to paid search that is going to be much more efficient. So a lot of the diversifying that we're doing in media that's driving more of this kind of organic lead gen over time will enable us to start to take our CAC down over time. And obviously, that will ultimately be our goal.