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Agilysys, Inc. (AGYS)

Q3 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 9, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Agilysys Fiscal 2017 Third Quarter Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Some statements made on today’s call will be predictive and are intended to be made as forward-looking within the Safe Harbor protections of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Also, the company believes that its forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions. Such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that would cause actual results to differ materially. Important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements are set forth in the company’s report on Form 10-K and 10-Q and news releases filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, management will be discussing some non-GAAP metrics on today’s call, primarily adjusted cash from operations and adjusted EBITDA, which eliminates the effect of restructuring and other items that are either non-cash or non-recurring. Reconciliations to GAAP metrics are provided in the financial section of the press release issued earlier today. I’d now like to turn the call over to Ramesh Srinivasan, Chief Executive Officer of Agilysys. Please go ahead.

Ramesh Srinivasan

Management

Thank you, Jonathan. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us to review our fiscal 2017 third quarter results ending December 31, 2016. Joining me on the call today are Tony Pritchett, our Interim CFO; and Larry Steinberg, our CTO. I am happy to be with Agilysys and with all of you here today. We are in a good stage now in the history of Agilysys. A tremendous amount of investment, hard and smart work during the past few years have created significant competitive advantages for us, which we can now leverage to improve financial performance and enable significant value creation in the near and long-term. I am grateful to our Board of Directors, management and other teams in Agilysys for this opportunity to use the experience gained during my past successful stints at similar situations in enterprise software companies and to leverage the previous investments already made here to lead Agilysys to greatness. I have been here for about 1.5 months now and while I am still in the process of learning and getting my arms around all the details, the opportunities for disciplined revenue and profitability growth are quite clear to me. I don’t expect the turnaround to happen overnight, but I am confident that it will happen in the near-term. There will be a transition period both for myself and our team members as we look at approaching and handling many parts of our business differently. During the recently concluded December quarter, revenues increased 7% to $33.4 million, with recurring revenues posting a quarterly record of $16.2 million or 49% of total net revenue. Subscription-based SaaS revenues, which is one of the significant parts of our recurring revenue base, increased by 48% year-over-year. Gross margin during the quarter was 48.6%, reflecting the impact of amortization of software…

Tony Pritchett

Management

Thanks Ramesh and good afternoon everyone. Beginning with the review of our income statement, third quarter fiscal 2017 total revenue was $33.4 million, representing a 7% increase from total net revenues of $31.3 million in the comparable prior year period. Breaking down our revenue mix, product net revenues, which is comprised of both third-party remarketed products, including hardware and software and on-premise proprietary software license sales decreased 16% to $10 million and represented 30% of total revenue during the quarter compared to $11.9 million and 38% of total revenue during the prior year period. The decrease compared to the third quarter of fiscal 2016 is related to a reduction in third-party remarketed products. Q3 of last fiscal year includes a couple of outsized third-party product deliveries, which we were able to benefit from. On a sequential basis, product revenue was flat. Support, maintenance and subscription revenue or recurring revenues grew by 9% to $16.2 million and represented 49% of total revenues compared to 48% in the third quarter of fiscal 2016, driven by a 48% increase in our subscription based SaaS revenue, which itself accounted for 24% of support, maintenance and subscription revenue or approximately $3.9 million compared to $2.6 million or 18% of support, maintenance and subscription revenue in the fiscal 2016 third quarter. Going forward, we expect support, maintenance and subscription revenue will showed similar growth trends and that we will end fiscal 2017, with a 4% to 6% year-over-year growth rate. The ongoing growth in our subscription revenues is creating a larger base of recurring revenue that we will be able to recognize in coming quarters. Professional Services revenue grew 61% to $7.2 million compared to $4.5 million in the third quarter of fiscal 2016, reflecting a greater utilization of our services resources and increased capacity in…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Phil Bernard from Eilers, Krejcik Gaming, your question please.

Phil Bernard

Analyst

Thanks for taking my call. Two quick questions, first one for Ramesh, next one for Tony, Ramesh, first congratulations on the new appointment. And I will just dive right in. We have been following the industry for a while and a few years back, you were instrumental in training around Bally’s systems business, I am curious as to whether you see any similarities between that position and your current situation in current role?

Ramesh Srinivasan

Management

Hey, Phil, so nice to talk to you again. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Yes, there are a lot of parallels not only with Bally Systems but before that, about 7 years with Manhattan Associates when that company grew its revenue like 7x in 7 years or so. So there is a lot of parallels here. Both are in the B to limited B, right. B to – it’s not B2B like big companies, but – like Microsoft or Oracle, but B-to-limited B enterprise software. There is a lot of similarities among Manhattan, Bally systems and this. And when I look at the current situation where we are, both positives and negatives and how much improvement is possible both on the top line and in profitability, there are a lot of parallels. And I hope I have learnt my lessons well and I hope I carry a few lessons well with me that I can bring to bear in this situation.

Phil Bernard

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks. And then Tony, I know you mentioned revising revenue guidance down moderately, I am wondering what impact you think that will have on the EBITDA line, I know this is not guidance that you provided, but previous management team, at the beginning of fiscal ‘17, guided for 2x the previous year’s EBITDA, I am curious as to your thoughts?

Tony Pritchett

Management

Yes. Hey Phil, thanks for the question. We are not – like you said, we are not providing specific EBITDA guidance for this year. What I can tell you is that will be a few million dollars up of our original estimates due mainly to two things. There is a couple of million dollars related to the reduction in revenue that you mentioned and that we guided to this in the press release. That’s mainly due to lower product sales. The other thing that will drive our EBITDA down a little bit is a couple of million dollars of extra expense that we didn’t originally plan. That’s necessarily in order to help expand the business and that’s related to the investment that we talked about on the last call.

Phil Bernard

Analyst

Okay, great. That is it for me. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Allen Klee from Sidoti, your question please.

Allen Klee

Analyst

Yes. Hi. With the – if you can add a little help on how you are going to think about the extra spending that’s associated with winning new customers in terms of what it’s going towards and kind of where you stand with these larger customers and the opportunity there?

Ramesh Srinivasan

Management

Yes. You kind of broke up a little bit Allen, in between your question. You are talking about extra spending on what, please?

Allen Klee

Analyst

For your products to tailor them for larger customer wins?

Ramesh Srinivasan

Management

Okay, got it. Okay. So as far as the large scale hotel operators Allen, the larger deals that you are talking about, those opportunities continue to grow for us and InfoGenesis product line is our top focus area there. And implementations in the initial properties of the large scale operators are already underway and that will be an important component of our top line growth going forward. Now with respect to the extra spend and I will also kind of connect this with Phil’s question before about lessons that I have learnt before, a lot of what we are facing now is being more cost effective with what we do, focusing on our productivity levels, generating revenue from our previous well established products as well. So there are a number of areas that this company can improve a lot without any big extra spending. So when you think of our cost structure in all areas, like whether it is product development or any other area in the business, in every category of spend, I expect cost as a percentage of revenue to start going down. So you look at our overall cost, part of which is in cost of goods sold and part of which is in operating expenses, our overall cost as a percentage of revenue will start declining now. So from a revenue percentage standpoint, there is no more major extra spend that we need to do to bring home a lot of the new opportunities that we have. As revenues grow, I expect cost to grow, but at a much lower rate. So the cost growth will be at a much lower rate than the revenue growth rate. So relative to revenue level, there is no extra spending contemplated going forward, but as our top line continues to grow, we will make the prudent investments in the appropriate areas. But more and more at Agilysys, you will see the gap between revenue and cost increase. Does that make sense, Allen?

Allen Klee

Analyst

Yes. Thank you so much. Then longer term, how do you think about the paths of the company moving to profitability and free cash flow positive?

Ramesh Srinivasan

Management

We expect to get to free cash flow positive within the next – can’t guide. We can’t guide to an exact time period on that. But we are putting in place various changes and various initiatives to improve productivity and cost effectiveness. That will get us to a free cash flow positive stage in the not too distant future. I will live it at that.

Tony Pritchett

Management

Yes. Allen, this is Tony. We don’t – look, Ramesh has only been here, call it, six weeks. We are in the early stages of our fiscal year ‘18 planning process. And at this point, we just don’t want to give guidance for next year or the future. But to Ramesh’s point, our goal is cash flow positive and we expect that costs as a percentage of revenue will continue down from this point. That’s a big focus for us.

Allen Klee

Analyst

Thank you. And then can you update me on the number of quota carrying reps and any plans to grow that this year?

Tony Pritchett

Management

Yes. We still got in – right around 30, a little over 30 quota carrying reps which hasn’t changed much in the last couple of quarters. And we don’t – there is no current term plan to change the structure of our sales force. We feel like we have got a pretty good base of quota carrying reps. But as we enter into the new fiscal year, anything is possible. So we are going to look at this as part of our planning process.

Allen Klee

Analyst

Okay. And then just in terms of CapEx and capitalized software, is there any plans of changing spending on those?

Tony Pritchett

Management

So when we talked about reducing spend as a percentage of revenue, CapEx is part of that conversation as well. So we are looking at total all cost of the business OpEx, cost of goods sold, CapEx. So that’s a big part of our business. We spend a lot of money on CapEx and we are going to be laser focused on that particular area and do what we can to make that fall in the same trend as the rest of our cost.

Ramesh Srinivasan

Management

And Allen, please don’t interpret that as any reduced focus or any reduced “reducing the investment.” We are – we just want to be more cost effective with the investments we have made and the investments we will continue to make. And relative to revenue, we will continue to get to a better place as far as our overall spend is concerned. But all the focus areas that I have been mentioning before remain and we will just get better at doing more with the amount of money we spend.

Allen Klee

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. Can you help me understand a little better what you have to do from where you were now to try to be successful in winning the bigger deals that have been noted better opportunities out there?

Ramesh Srinivasan

Management

Yes. So number one, we need to be a lot more cost effective with what we do in terms of being more productive, because in terms of all the investments, everything we need to do to grow our kind of business, we have made all the right decisions so far. So they are all there. It is a matter of doing more with what we expect. We also need to increase our product delivery velocity, right. We need to – we have significant investments in R&D obviously and we just need to deliver products at a quicker pace. Now in terms of lessons learned from my previous lives, like what Phil was asking me about, there is more – there are more revenue levels to be made from our currently established products as well. So our top line revenue growth can come from our currently established products and from our new rGuest product line. And I think we have room for improvement in customer centricity, remaining accessible to customers, taking both their short-term and long-term needs more seriously. So in terms of customer centricity, product delivery velocity, increasing the cost effectiveness of what we do, those are all the areas in which we can get much better as an organization, which will result in much better profitability.

Larry Steinberg

Analyst

And this is Larry Steinberg. Just to add couple of things there from the specifics, when we talked about moving to these large-scale states and where you are managing thousands of outlets from a single site versus hundreds, there is the number of configuration management items that need to happen so that you can actually manage an enterprise from a single location. That’s one of the core things that we are working on as well as necessary international expansion. Those are the two big areas from, I would say, future bucket perspective.

Allen Klee

Analyst

Okay, thank you. And then for your lowering of your revenue guidance, can you provide some color on – you said that upfront product sales are going to be lighter than originally thought in the back half, but can you provide any color behind what’s behind that?

Ramesh Srinivasan

Management

Sure. So part of that, the slight reduction, right, it’s about 3% or so delta that we are talking about here. Part of that decreased product sale has to do with the fact that certain hardware pieces that we used to sell before as we move more and more to subscription-based SaaS revenue, so that hardware sales will reduce. And I think part of it also had a little bit to do with the leadership change uncertainty. And there were some customers who we caught delayed their buying decisions just to see how smoothly the leadership transformation happened and that went very well in the user conference. So that confidence should come back. And also the fact we are switching to SaaS-based subscription revenue also had a little bit to do with that.

Tony Pritchett

Management

Yes. And Allen, the majority of the component of product revenues that’s going to come in lighter than we expected is hardware. There is also a component that is proprietary software. And as we switch to SaaS and that switch is happening faster than we planned for this year, we are seeing less proprietary software and more SaaS bookings.

Allen Klee

Analyst

Okay, great. That’s it from me. Thank you so much.

Tony Pritchett

Management

Thanks, Allen.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude the question-and-answer session of today’s program. I would like to hand the program back to Ramesh Srinivasan for any further remarks.

Ramesh Srinivasan

Management

Thank you, Jonathan. Thank you all for your continued interest in Agilysys. Please let’s assure that we will continue to work hard and smart to improve our sales in all the various business areas. We are well positioned to drive home the various advantages we have worked diligently to build. Also, a special thanks to our talented and dedicated Agilysys teams, to all our customers, partners and shareholders. Thank you all for your support. And we look forward to reporting on the next stage of our progress soon. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today’s conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.