Greeting and welcome to the American Eagle Outfitters First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Judy Meehan. Thank you, Ms. Meehan. You may begin.

Good afternoon, everyone. Joining me today for our prepared remarks are Jay Schottenstein, Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Jen Foyle, President, Executive Creative Director for AE and Aerie; Michael Rempell, Chief Operating Officer; and Mike Mathias, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin today's call, I need to remind you that we will make certain forward-looking statements. These statements are based upon information that represents the company's current expectations or beliefs. The results actually realized may differ materially based on risk factors included in our SEC filings. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law. Also, please note that during this call and in the accompanying press release, certain financial metrics are presented on both the GAAP and non-GAAP adjusted basis. Reconciliations of adjusted results to the GAAP results are available in the tables attached to the earnings release, which is posted on our corporate website at www.aeo-inc.com in the Investor Relations section. Here, you can also find the first quarter investor presentation. And now I will turn the call over to Jay.

Good afternoon, thanks for joining us today. Entering 2023, we built our plans for the year cautiously, balancing continued optimism for our brands with the flexibility to navigate uncertainty in the macro environment. Exiting the first quarter, I am pleased to note that the strategy delivered for us. Our team successfully managed through the quarter and achieve results in line with plan. Consolidated revenue of $1.1 billion was up to last year and marked a new first quarter high for the company. Adjusted operating income of $44 million improved slightly to last year. We continue to make progress strengthening the balance sheet and redeemed our outstanding convertible debt and in the quarter with healthy liquidity. By brand, first quarter revenue declined 2% at American Eagle and increased 12% at Aerie. Despite a tough spending environment, both brands demonstrated a sequential improvement from fourth quarter trends. We made progress at American Eagle with profits up to last year and top line trends moving in the right direction. We remain steadfast in our focus on healthy and profitable growth. Although still early, new expansions like AE77, our premium capsule and 24/7, our entry into men's active wear, are seeing encouraging results. Aerie remained a fan favorite, delivering record revenue and profitability. Our active wear extension OFFLINE continues to carve out a unique identity in the marketplace with its high-quality assortment in vibrant spirit. Additionally, investments in new stores are increasing brand reach and awareness, providing a tremendous foundation for Aerie as it continues to scale in the coming years. We took action to restructure acquired platform to strengthen profitability. As I mentioned last quarter, across AEO, we have initiated a formal program to find further cost savings and cover more efficient ways of working. We have a powerful portfolio of brands with tremendous value still to be unlocked. In the near term, we are highly focused on managing through this macro environment. As Mike will review, we're maintaining strong disciplines and seeking opportunities to optimize profitability this year and in the future. With that, I'll turn the call over to Jen.

Thanks, Jay, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm proud of how our brands performed this quarter despite choppiness in the retail environment. We showed up well across stores and online with fresh styles and chased into high demand items profitably. While promotions were up to last year, we participated strategically, protecting our multiyear progress in building brand equity. Our first quarter AUR was the second highest in history, down 3% to last year's record results, yet up over 20% to pre-pandemic levels across brands. Our customer KPIs were healthy. In the first quarter, we grew our total customer file and also expanded our loyalty customer base. In fact, our Real Rewards loyalty program was recognized by Newsweek as America's fourth best program in apparel this year. Moving on to the brand. Aerie had a strong quarter with double-digit revenue growth and positive comp growth. We saw an incredible customer response to new styles in our core apparel collection across fleece, bottoms and tops. Seasonal tops and new bottoms silhouette in particular, were key drivers of new customer acquisitions. Demand for our active wear extension OFFLINE by Aerie also remained healthy with strength in tops, sports bras, active short and fashion items. Swim and intimates were soft this quarter, consistent with trends we've seen in recent periods as our customers focus on other categories. We are continuing to engage our customers with exciting content. In the first quarter, our Find Your Own [ Wonder ] campaign supporting our Y2K collection, including partnerships with key influencers and publications like [ Who, What, Where ]. This month, Aerie launched the Real You summer campaign, celebrating our new summer collection, including our fan-favorite pool-to-party capsule. Turning to American Eagle. Revenue was down to last year, yet profits were up as we continue to focus on…

Thanks, Jen, and good afternoon, everyone. I am encouraged with the progress we are making across our operations, brands and channels. Given ongoing uncertainty in the macro, we've been very focused on making operational improvements across the business with an emphasis on finding efficiencies in labor, inventory and expenses. This is a multiyear journey yet the early impacts we are seeing provide compelling proof point of the work underway. In the first quarter, store revenue increased 5% as customers returned to in-person shopping and new Aerie stores continue to ramp up. I am pleased to note that store labor cost declined to last year as we achieved efficiencies in our labor model, offsetting both wage inflation and payroll related to new stores. Our focus on the store fleet is to ensure that we are fueling the best stores in the best locations with the right inventory, the right staff and the latest new technology, all to deliver outstanding customer experiences and while finding efficiencies and cost savings at the same time. We are taking steps to enhance our operational excellence across all these areas as we focus on maximizing ROI and store productivity. This includes the RFID and AI-based technology I discussed last quarter, which provides accurate inventory and location visibility within our stores. As we roll out this new capability, I believe the benefits to our business will be meaningful, yielding efficiencies and inventory productivity. On the digital side, revenue declined 4% as customers return to in-person shopping and demands continued to normalize from elevated builds during the pandemic. New leadership is bringing innovative ideas to drive improvements to online KPIs. Specifically, we're looking at greater use of analytics and testing to drive increased engagement, traffic and conversion. I remain excited about what we have in the pipeline for…

Thanks, Michael. Good afternoon, everyone. As expected, the environment remained choppy in the first quarter. Yet, I'm pleased with how we managed through monthly variability. We entered the year with a healthy inventory position, product cost favorability and renewed agility in our supply chain. This enabled us to operate with flexibility, strategically control promotions and deliver on our first quarter plan. Consolidated revenue of $1.1 billion marked a new first quarter record for the company, increasing 2% to last year. Adjusted operating income of $44 million was up slightly, reflecting an operating margin of 4.1%. Compared to last year, gross profit dollars increased 6% to $413 million, with the gross margin rate up 140 basis points. Merchandise margins increased to last year, led by a favorable transportation environment with a partial offset from higher markdowns. Markdowns remain below pre-pandemic levels as we maintain focus on healthy promotions and preserving the progress we made in rebuilding brand equity over the past several years. Within gross margin, we also leveraged compensation and delivery costs, partially offset by rent expense linked to new store openings. SG&A expense of $312 million was up 5% to last year, driven by corporate compensation and advertising. Store compensation was down despite new store growth, driven by efficiencies in our labor model. We also saw a reduction in professional services, another area that has been a focus over the past several quarters. Depreciation increased primarily due to investments in new stores. In the first quarter, we took measures to restructure Quiet platforms and strengthened profitability. We reset expenses to align with the current pace of growth in the third-party business. This included downsizing the workforce and streamlining costs to focus on areas where we see the greatest long-term runway. In our first year of ownership, we've seen significant…

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Paul Lejuez with Citi.

Can you maybe talk about what has changed thus far in the second quarter and where you adjusted your expectations down for the back half as a result of that. And then Mike, talking a lot about cost savings and efficiencies, when are we going to see that hit? Curious if there's anything coming in the second half? Or any concrete examples of where you might be finding savings to date as you go through and do that work.

Yes. Thanks, Paul, it's Mike. I can talk about the trend of the business. Obviously, we talked about first quarter revenue up 2%, comps down 1.5%. Definitely choppy as we keep using that word to describe it. Felt good about how things were progressing with -- through the spring break shift, Easter shifts, got to the end of April and now into May, and things have slowed down a bit. So again, May is just our smallest month of the quarter. We're 4 weeks in, definitely some -- for us, we're keeping an eye when schools are letting out. It looks like it's going to be later this year. That could have an impact. So we're being cautious about what we're seeing in the last few weeks. The majority of the quarters ahead of us still probably 75% plus of the volume, but the guide is cautious, it's just based on what we've been seeing for the last several weeks. Your second question on cost savings, we're 4, 5 weeks into pretty aggressively laying out a road map for opportunities, some of which we haven't waited on. As Michael talked about, store labor was a good result in the first quarter, was looking on that since last year. Services, also a good story in the first quarter. That work continues. We're pulling down our capital spend more to benefit to impact depreciation, looking forward past in future quarters and really next year and beyond. And then as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, I mentioned clearance inventory. That's something else that is underway as we speak, could have some benefits definitely for this year, maybe even in the second quarter, a little more than we've provided in our guide. That's something we're not locking down right now in terms of plans. And it's really just about how we manage through clearance, our end of season sell-off process. It's basically part of the operating model like I've been talking about within our $4.7 billion cost base, something we've been looking at, and we're looking -- and we're changing that process as we speak. So some of those things we think could have more second half benefit than what's in our guidance right now, but I'll be talking more about that on the second call to lock down things more specifically, that can answer your question with definitely more specifics at that point.

Got it. And then was that slowdown at both brands? Or was there more one than the other thus far in May?

With both brands by a bit, reflecting in our guide, and that's why we think there could be some shift happening, and we want to keep an eye on that. Cautious for now, 3.5 weeks into the quarter, is definitely a bit in both brands.

Our next question is from Jay Sole with UBS.

Maybe -- I'm wondering if you can elaborate a little bit on the intimates business within Aerie. Maybe Jen can talk about what you're seeing there and maybe what the plan is going forward?

Sure. We're really excited about this business actually because the whole ceiling is lowered in intimates. We held our ground on bras for sure. There's been some shifts in silhouettes. But we're double-downing tomorrow. In fact, I have a huge offsite with the team. I know they're going to present me with tons of new innovation and ideas. Look, the whole category has shifted. Girls are wearing bra tops out. So there's no need for bras and we're focused on that and how she's wearing her intimates. So I think there's going to be a lot more exciting things to come here. We've certainly seen some plus-ups in sports bras. As Mike and team mentioned, OFFLINE is certainly an exciting category for us. And sports bras are really accelerating. So we've got -- and I don't know if anyone's worn our sports bras. Please do get out there because I would not mind every day to the gym and it's the most -- it's honestly the most comfortable and supportive sports bra out there. So I get pretty excited. Look, we're not giving up. Next year is Aerie's anniversary, it's our Aerie Real anniversary spring 2024. And let me tell you, we're revving up into that year with new exciting things happening in all of our categories, actually.

Our next question comes from Matthew Boss with JPMorgan.

It's Amanda Douglas on for Matt. So Jen, you mentioned a focus on driving growth at the American Eagle brand. Could you just elaborate on key initiatives in place today, timing of those initiatives and any key categories in the assortment you see as an opportunity as we look ahead into back-to-school?

Sure, absolutely. We've been really rationalizing this brand, as Mike mentioned, too, closing some stores. We've got out of some businesses that were not profitable. We've been focused on the bottom line. And certainly, we're delivering there. So proud of the margins we've been delivering in American Eagle. And look, we've seen improvements in women's, really exciting improvements from a comp trend into Q1, a significant shift. And so we're really leaning in there in that category. And in men's, did see some softness. I think we could be a little bit more aggressive in some of the newer categories, and we've tested those categories in Q1. So you'll see as we head into the back half of this quarter because we launched back-to-school around June 30. So we'll have some new ideas that we were able to react to in men. So Jay mentioned 24/7, that active line is incredible. I just saw all the creative for it. Some of the innovation there and the excitement around that. I think our customer is going to be very excited and delighted as we, like I said, head into back-to-school. Also 77, it's a small test, albeit, but these jeans are not cheap. There are premier price points -- premium price points. And we like what we're seeing early on. And definitely, that would entertain an older customer. So pretty excited about some new ideas on that side of town, too. So we've got opportunity in these new categories to really go after them as we get more momentum in the business. And then Aerie, the back-to-school is incredible. I just -- it gets better with AE's brand. That's all I can say. Just to remind you, Aerie since 2019 has grown 129%, and I believe that's better than any near-end competitors. So this team just is an engine, and we have so much opportunity in front of us, and we're going to keep on looking for our golden nuggets and driving it. I will say all the teams reacted to the business early, we saw nice momentum coming out of the quarter in April. As a reminder, Easter, when we saw that shift, and we got into Easter, the momentum happened. I'm here as the optimist. We haven't hit Memorial Day. Our stores business really performed nicely as Michael mentioned, in Q1. So when these kids get out to school, I'm hoping they like what they see.

Great. And then, Mike, to follow up on the margin side. Help us to think about the magnitude of gross margin expansion you see in 2Q relative to the first quarter? And to what extent do you see higher markdowns as a potential headwind for the balance of the year?

Thanks, Amanda. Yes, Q2 gross margin expansion will be -- we're assuming our projection, it would be even healthier. If you remember last year, that was our -- we recover similar freight-related impacts versus last year, really every quarter. And then last year from a markdown perspective, we did some things to right size inventory at the end of the quarter last year that we are not obviously in a position to have the anniversary. So gross margin expansion for the second quarter will be healthy. That's largely what we're expecting really every quarter from here is that product costs, freight recovery, and we do not have any intention or any plans for higher markdowns on the year. Our inventory is in great shape. Supply chains are back to normal. We have flexibility and are open to buy. So against what we just guided to, our inventories positioned very appropriately. We can chase into trends as we see them readjust inventory still for the back half as we need to as well. So we're not planning on higher markdowns at all.

Our next question is from Adrienne Yih with Barclays.

Jen, I was wondering on the AE brand, how much higher are initial retails at AE versus 2019 and the ability to -- after we get through this kind of period, the ability to hold on to that pricing based on just elevating the business and more innovation. And then for Mike, can you talk about traffic and/or transactions versus ticket/basket for each of the brands?

I mean I should just say both brands are significantly up to 2019, and we're pleased with that, Adrienne. Certainly, as you see too, we're going to have nice costing has been coming in really favorably as well. So we're going to do -- we're going to really have a balancing act in both brands on how we're pricing and what our out-the-door prices look like. And ensuring that we're competing on our terms. So that's really the answer. I believe that we've really struck gold here in some of these categories, and we don't want to give up that -- all the work we've done, that's where we've been at over the past 3 years during COVID, we were increasing our prices in specific categories, denim being one. I reflect back, we actually had pulled back on our promotions in denim during some of these peak tough time periods out there. And so we believe that there's opportunity in specific categories like I said, in both brands. And specifically, in American Eagle, as the 2 new brands that we just launched in our testing, we've seen no resistance to the pricing. So we're going to use those as test points for us. And hopefully, we can scale those businesses as well.

Adrienne, to your traffic question. Traffic has been relatively healthy. And as Jen just said, AUR is up nicely still to pre-pandemic levels, not giving any more of that AUR back. It's down a little bit to last year, not substantial. The average basket size, really driven by AURs down a bit than 2%. We have some work to do on the conversion line, we think we could -- we believe it could be tied a little bit to macro conditions, that mid- to low-income consumer traffic is coming through a bit, not converting maybe as heavily. That's something we're keeping an eye on, something we're trying to move the needle on, but that gives you a sense of the metrics that are driving the business right now.

Our next question is from Dana Telsey with Telsey Advisory Group.

Good afternoon, everyone. As you think about the upcoming back-to-school period with the cadence of business currently, any shifts that you're making, whether it's marketing, whether it's when you're bringing in goods and how you're planning promotional levels as we go through 2Q into the back half?

I mean, Marni, all of the above. Everything has to be a full 360 approach and when it comes to back-to-school, I think we do it best. I'm really proud of the way the stores look out there. And like I said, the store business has been very healthy. We're focusing on stores. And I don't know if Michael had mentioned, I know we -- I believe mentioned on previous calls, but we have a new leader in the digital business, David Zhang who comes with tons of experience and is already unlocking opportunities for us on that side of the business. Back-to-school. I got to see it live tomorrow, but I've obviously been through all the product categories, but I see it in our simulated stores tomorrow at our home base in Pittsburgh. And Marni, like all I can tell you is from Q1, we've shifted the businesses significantly with what we saw. I would like to say, I thought we were really aggressive on the other bottoms categories in Q1, and that continues into Q2 when we build on it. For Q3, we're seeing some bright lights in denim that we're able to respond to. So that's really exciting. We've seen improvements in denim, actually, particularly in women's as we pace throughout the quarter and building into May. So some bright spots there. So I think we're ready, Marni. So like I said, I have to be the optimistic on this call because it's our job to react to what's happening in the business and push harder as we head into the balance of the year. We do not plan on promoting, we're going to promote with intent. And Mike mentioned that we have some opportunity to really look how we clear goods in Q2, hopefully, more profitably. I think we have some good plans in place there and we're going to come out clean and be ready to fight.

Your markdown question or your promotional level, we don't have any plans to be more promotional for back-to-school. As you know, we are very clean, we're clean going into the back half and back-to-school last year after taking measures to clean up inventory in the spring season in July there at the end of the second quarter. So we were actually pleased with our promotional level through the third quarter last year, and we're looking at something -- we're planning similar levels of promotion this year.

And Dana, my phone went off. So Dana, I know you and I'm sorry. So thank you very much.

Our next question is from Jonna Kim with TD Cowen.

Just curious about what you're seeing in the loyalty program, how the spending and retention trends have been like versus history? And what are some of the data advantages you can have by leveraging the loyalty program.

Jonna, we're actually pleased with the relaunch of the program from a few years ago, the response to the program engagement, membership levels are continuing to increase, our customer file in total for the company is very healthy in both brands. When you look at things in total, I think we're actually meeting kind of new heights in terms of total customer count those in loyalty program in total. So I think it's something we're looking at as a continual leverage looking at evolution of the program benefits to those members. Yes, it's a big piece of the equation in terms of our kind of day in, day out communication to customers and driving traffic to both our stores and our digital channels. Mike, do you want to add...

And Jonna, just a little more color. I mean, our -- like Mike was saying, our total customer base is roughly flat. Our loyalty base has increased. And these are our most valuable customers. They're spending more with us. They're transacting more frequently. So that's certainly an encouraging sign. And actually, if you look at what's been happening over the last 12 months or so, that's true across both brands. So like Mike said, we relaunched the program, I don't know, a little over a year ago, closer probably to 18 months or so. And we're constantly looking to refine the program to make sure our customers are getting more benefit. They're engaging with our brands more and we're running it to efficiently grow the business.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Alex Straton with Morgan Stanley.

I just wanted to focus on revenue here. In the sequential top line weakness you've observed, have you seen any variations by household income demographic? And then secondly, I know you're near peak AURs and I'm just wondering, do you think that's at all contributing to some of the challenges on the top line? Or how do you guys gauge price sensitivity?

Yes. If I could start on the revenue side. Really in May here, we're 3.5 weeks and your question, this is exactly the question we're asking ourselves. I think there's some of this what's happening externally and the impact on what we think is the mid- to low-end household income cost consumer, which we are susceptible to. That's what we're being cautious about from here. I think if you look at what everyone is reporting at this earnings period, you do see a bit of bifurcation between kind of brands that are appealing to a higher income customer versus those that are more exposed to the mid lower side. So I think that's something that we are going to navigate. Again, our inventory levels being flexible, supply chain, time lines, it's back to normal. Those are things we'll navigate as that continues to be a macro external impact that we can't control. We'll control everything that we can. We don't think -- I mean back to what Michael and I just described in terms of customer base and loyalty program, AUR usually has some kind of impact on that as well. We're not seeing any impact to those customer metrics in that way. And again, we're well ahead of pre-pandemic levels, but we actually haven't kind of grown AUR since last year or '21, we're actually down a couple of points to those peaks. So as you sit here today, maybe the combination of those factors is having a longer-term impact. It's something we will be assessing. But again, we'll control what we can control in that equation right now, which is really inventory and everything else around our operating model that we're looking at.

Our next question is from Janet Kloppenburg with JJK Research Associates.

Just a couple of quick questions. First on housekeeping, Michael. Is depreciation now looking to be up mid-teens for the year. Maybe you could help me on that. And then on the guidance cut on the operating income for the year that includes a lower outlook for the second quarter as well as for the back half. Could you flush that out for me, please? And then Jen, was there some change in category investment in May versus April, it sounds like April was a decent month. You said you had some acceleration in April maybe after a weak March, I'm guessing. So I'd like to understand maybe how the assortment shift may have -- may be impacting the response rate right now at both brands.

Janet, your question on depreciation, as we said for Q2 guidance, similar dollars for Q2, it's really similar dollars every quarter of the year based on the $150 million to $175 million range this year versus what we spent in the previous years. Depreciation will be pretty consistent quarter-to-quarter. You get to roughly a 10% increase on the year based on that. That is something we are focused on. We pulled down capital spending for this year, made a lot of investments in the last few years, as we've talked about, especially in area in off-line growth. We're going to grow into those investments, optimize those investments, investments in technology, supply chain capabilities, that's part of this project this year and finding efficiencies in our operating model. Part of that is actually leveraging all those investments that we've kind of proactively and aggressively made in the last few years. So we are looking for depreciation to kind of normalize and even come down over time. And then as far as the guide goes, yes, the full year guidance does contemplate of course, what we just guided for the second quarter and how we're thinking cautiously, how we're viewing the rest of the year. So we talked about flat to low revenue down low single digits for the year. If you think about first quarter results, second quarter guide, you're relatively flat through the spring season, and we're basically staying relatively flat for the year based on what we know today. And then the income guide off of that is based on that type of revenue thought process right now.

But some greater pressure on gross margin or no? Not as much recovery as you had originally expected?

Not as much leverage on expenses then, right? But definite recovery of all freight and related product costs, seeing that flow through, that's going to happen every quarter. Even on this revenue expectation, our inventory levels that are planned for the year, we're actually expecting net kind of positive impact from lower markdowns on the year still as we sit here today. So definitely, gross margin expansion from those things. But to your point, yes, not as much leverage on the expenses through gross margin on the revenue that we guided to.

Okay. And Jen, on the change in assortments and what was...

How are you Janet?

Good. Nice to hear your voice.

No, actually, in fact, we've built on the assortment off of April. So the only thing I would add is we do need a few of our seasonal categories to turn on right now. We're hoping as we get into the seasonality, Memorial Day weekend on that we'll see that happen. And just to note, though, I will say, some of our -- in American Eagle in particular, we've seen bright spots in bottoms, including denim. So that's where we really took the business going into Q3. We feel we're really well positioned there, Janet. So I really -- I'm looking forward to some of these after-school shifts, seeing what those changes do to the business. I'm cautiously optimistic on the quarter and we're ready to go. But no, the assortments did not significantly change. In fact, in some cases, i.e., in women's tops, we could use more. We saw a huge shift in women's tops, Janet. I don't know if I mentioned that earlier, but from where we ended Q2, it's nice to see this business turn around. In fact, we're in the positive comp zone, healthy positive comp in women's tops, bottoms are very strong. So yes, just some of these seasonal categories, we need to turn on a little bit more.

Our next question is from Chris Nardone with Bank of America.

Can you help quantify what is driving the low to mid-single-digit increase in SG&A in the first half of the year compared to last year? And then if you can tie that into your expectations for full year SG&A growth embedded in your new EBIT guide? That would be great.

Chris, thanks. The SG&A was up 5% for the first quarter. We provided second quarter direction a low- to mid-single. For the year, you can kind of get your mind around that same range, although like we've been talking about, that is a big piece of the initiative -- we're looking at the entire $4.7 billion cost base, not just SG&A, but they're definitely elements of SG&A, of course, that we want to continue to work on store labor, corporate compensation, services, marketing effectiveness in terms of driving revenue for us, few other line items and categories. So on the year guide, it is mostly compensation-related payroll taxes and benefits that are driving that low to mid-single-digit increase. And there is a reminder that it's a 53rd week year. So about 1 point of the growth is also just attributed to that extra week. But as I said, I think back to Paul's question, more color on the second quarter call in terms of opportunities against that color, things we're working on now, laying out the priorities and the time line of how we're going after them. Some things are already underway and a little more color on the second quarter call about potential back half benefits and what benefits we're expecting on the go forward.

Got it. And then just one follow-up on the gross margin. Are the opportunities around freight and cotton recapture, is that just a fiscal '23 thing? Or do you expect some of the cost reversal will help you looking out into fiscal '24? I'm just trying to understand the cadence of when you expect to fully recuperate that $60 million to $80 million in incremental freight costs you guys have talked about in the past?

Yes. We'll get most of that back this year. There is some spillover into '24 as goods that we sourced in 2022, we're selling in '23. Goods that we'll be sourcing this year will spill into '24. So look, the sourcing environment is very favorable right now. Demand is weak, commodities are stable, transportation is available and back to pre-pandemic levels. So I expect, like Mike was saying, we'll see recapture all this year, but we'll also see benefit into early '24.

And our final question is from Marni Shapiro with Retail Tracker.

Jen, now you have me for real. But you should know that Dana and I grew up in the same neighborhood, and we shopped at the same bakery so mixing assumption be such a big deal.

And both of you're stopping at American Eagle.

I don't think it existed back then. We're the older generation. I just want to dig a little bit into the gross margin to make sure I understand the puts and takes here because there's obviously the freight recovery and it sounds like the sourcing environment is better. So were you able to get those AUCs for the back half of this year? Or is that for next year? And then when you talked about promotional pressure, was that pressure coming on mostly the seasonal goods? So was that primarily in places like swimwear, for example, where you've had some issues? Or is that across the board? Because I'm wondering if -- is denim as promotional or go forward or the knit tops and things where you've seen the improvement in women, do you have to be promotional in those areas, too? Or are the promotions a little bit more specific?

Yes, Marni, I can start. I don't think we really talked about promotional pressure. Markdowns were up a little bit in the first quarter compared to this year, but last year was definitely on the low end of history. So they're just more kind of appropriate in the first quarter. As I said earlier, we're not looking at a higher level of promotional activity really any quarter throughout the year based on how we're -- I think we're at a good level now, a healthy level now. We like the mix of what that's driving. There's no inventory reasons or cause to overpromote to get through units, to manage inventory. So I don't know if there's any color you want to add, but...

Was the pressure in AUR, I guess, maybe -- was it just versus very high AUR last year? Is that what it really is?

Yes. We were, again, obviously, not 2021 peaks, but last year's AUR in the first quarter was still historically high, yes.

Yes. And we do expect both transportation and product cost benefits similar, if not greater to first quarter throughout the year.

And then can I just follow up on the seasonal products. Are you seeing the same slowdown in those sales across the country? Are there any regions where the weather -- I hate to have these conversations about weather, but where the weather has kicked in earlier? Or is it across the board?

We're definitely seeing better results out of the South and the West. So we don't like to talk about weather either, but at the same time, there's a reality to looking at the geographic results every single week, and there's definitely more life in the South and West where those seasonal categories would kick in earlier. So again, our -- the guide is cautious, some of that the results in the other areas of the country are definitely embedded in our thinking, but we are thinking -- again, hopefully, even more improved weather [indiscernible]. And there is something to, I think our customer, the timing of school getting out and mindset around summer vacations, et cetera, where we think some of these things will kick in for us differently as we move into -- further into the second quarter.

I'll take the rest offline.

Thank you. I would like to turn the floor back over to Jay Schottenstein for closing comments.

In conclusion, we are staying focused on navigating the near term. Our brands are in good shape, and we know there is an opportunity to unlock growth and profit from here. We're seeing discipline on inventory and expenses and looking for additional efficiencies. Thank you for joining the call, and I look forward to updating you all on the progress next quarter. Thank you.

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