Doug Del Grosso
Management
Yes. I mean, thank you for the question, Emmanuel. I mean, we continue to say, we think this business is capable of achieving in that, call it, 8% to 8.5% range. This year, the implied guide would have us in that 5.9% range. So there’s still a gap to be closed there. And the three – we’ve called them kind of the three buckets of where that margin gap closure comes from. The first one being the volume step up getting the industry back to kind of that LVBP build of in that $90 million range, let’s call it one-third of the bucket. There’s still a number of what I would call sticky costs that are built into the system, commodity recoveries, labor economics recoveries. Freight has largely come back now, so that’s not so much of an issue, but still a bit to be had there. That’s the other bucket, call it, that middle bucket. And then the other last bucket is, and we’ve talked and we’ve been very vocal about this, the roll off of some of the legacy contracts that occurs in the 2025 and 2026 timeframe, especially in the metals business that’s still left out there, that needs to drop off. And then that really allows us to kind of get the last third of that. And we’ve talked about that. We’ve kind of shown that roadmap. We’ve displayed that graphic pretty visually in terms of the timing of when we think that happens and how we think we get there. The other thing I would say is, and we’ve been pretty vocal about this is it’s, whether we settle in at 8 or 8.5, it’s also the amount of cash that we generate along the pathway to get there. If you look at this year, what we’ve been able to do with cash generation and then as we move forward, the calls for cash in this business remain very steady along the way. We’ll be in kind of that CapEx range that we’re at today, somewhere between sub 300 to 330 that calls for restructuring, will remain very steady. Our cash taxes in that, call it, 95 to 110 range. And then our interest expense, we have a very stable debt stack with the nearest maturities now coming in 2026. And so the cash tax – or sorry, our cash interest also remains very steady. So as we build EBITDA, a lot of that then drops down into cash flow or free cash flow, which we can then manage through whether it’s in share buybacks or other types of actions that we want to take. So it’s not just about margin expansion, it’s also about as we look at how we manage them the free cash flow that this business can really generate. So I think it’s just important to remind everyone, yes, it’s about EBITDA expansion, but it’s also about the free cash flow that this business can generate along the pathway.