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Adient plc (ADNT)

Q3 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, Jul 26, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and thank you all for standing by. I would like to inform all participants that your lines have been placed on a listen-only mode until the question-and-answer session of today’s call. [Operator Instructions] Today’s conference is being recorded. If anyone has any objections you may disconnect at this time. And I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Mark Oswald. Sir, you may begin.

Mark Oswald

Analyst

Thank you, Sue. Good morning. And thank you for joining us as we review Adient’s results for the Third Quarter of Fiscal Year 2018. The press release and presentation slides for the call today have been posted to the Investors section of our website at adient.com. This morning, I’m joined by Fritz Henderson, our Interim Chief Executive Officer; and Jeff Stafeil, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. On today’s call, Fritz will provide an update of the business, followed by Jeff who will review the financial results in greater detail. After our prepared remarks, we will open the call to your questions. Before I turn the call over to Fritz and Jeff there are a few items I’d like to cover. First today’s conference call will include forward-looking statements. These statements are based on the environment as we see it today and therefore involve risks and uncertainties. I would caution you that our actual results could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Please refer to slide two of the presentation for our complete Safe Harbor statement. In addition to the financial results presented on a GAAP basis, we will be discussing non-GAAP information that we believe is useful in evaluating the company’s operating performance. Reconciliations to these non-GAAP measures to the closest GAAP equivalent can be found in the appendix of our full earnings release. This concludes my comments. I’ll now turn the call over to Fritz.

Fritz Henderson

Analyst

Thanks Mark. Good morning and thanks to investors and analysts for joining us this morning and spending the time reviewing our third quarter results. In addition to providing an update in the business, I’ll also spend a few minutes discussing my near-term priorities and initial observations since assuming this role approximately six weeks ago. Looking at slide four, Jeff will discuss the numbers in detail for our third quarter financials, but I would just make a couple of broad comments. Our adjusted EBITDA for the quarter totaled $319 million, down $105 million year-over-year or 25%, driven primarily by performance within both our Seat Structures & Mechanisms segment, as well as our Seating Segment. Adjusted EPS fell to $1.45 in the most recent quarter the lower level basically as a result of lower level operating performance dropped right to the bottomline. Third quarter free cash flow was $252 million. This included the benefit of $94 million associated with the factory program receivable financing program that was actually put in place in the quarter. Without that, we are $158 million which was good progress and this was all about collecting receivables, completing our key paths, building our tooling, getting the basics executed within our business. We also received dividends from one of our Chinese joint ventures this was substantial one in the quarter. So it was good to see the free cash flow start to turn in the right direction in the third quarter. The adjusted results exclude various items that we view as either onetime in nature or otherwise skewed trends in the NOI business for the quarter for example. The largest special item related to an impairment charge of $52 million associated with certain assets are being held for sale specifically the market building headquarters building in Detroit was previously…

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

Great. Thanks Fritz, and good morning to everyone. Turning to our financial performance as Fritz stated in his remarks, Adient third quarter results were significantly impacted by operational headwinds in both Seating and Seat Structures & Mechanisms. Although, the SS&M business demonstrated sequential improvement for the second quarter headwinds within the seating segment intensified as we progressed through Q3. More on that in a minute. Turning to slide 10. Adhering to our typical format the page is formatted with our reported results on the left-hand side of the page and our adjusted results on the right side. We will focus our commentary on the adjusted results. These numbers exclude various items that we view as either onetime in nature or otherwise skew important trends and underlying performance. In the quarter, the largest of these special items related to an impairment charge of $52 million. As background and as Fritz mentioned a moment ago during the quarter the company committed to a plan to sell the building in Detroit previously designated to be our new headquarters, as well as our corporate airplanes. Accordingly, we have classified these as assets held for sale. As a result of this classification, we were required to write-down the value of these assets to fair value resulting in the $52 million impairment charge. Other adjustments include the coming Adient charges, restructuring related charges and purchase accounting amortization. These adjustments are detailed along with the bridge to our reported results in the appendix. Moving on adjusted EBITDA at $319 million fell $105 million year-on-year more than explained by a decline in operating performance. I’ll cover this in detail in a few minutes. Meanwhile, adjusted equity income for the quarter was down $4 million compared with the same period last year. When adjusting for the JV consolidation equity…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Colin Langan with UBS. You may go ahead.

Colin Langan

Analyst

Oh! Great. Thanks for taking my question. I guess to start off, I mean, Fritz, can you just clarify based on your comments, I mean, are you considering being the permanent CEO or are you kind of -- starting to be a bridge CEO? And then in your comments you also mentioned you’re looking to strengthen the leadership team any color there and what kind of people you’re looking to bring in?

Fritz Henderson

Analyst

So, Colin, the first question I made a comment I’m not involved in the search process. To read this for that one I’m really busy. And then two, if I do want to be considered I don’t want to be involved in that process. So I am not ruling myself out. I am just really focused on the company today. So, hopefully, that helps you understand where I am, working hard not to behave as an interim. Then the second thing is in terms of the team. I have seen where we’ve got shortages in manufacturing some in engineering, manufacturing engineering, quality. I mean most of -- and it’s not best as I look through whether it’s in Seat Structures & Mechanisms or in seats that -- we just got some whole we need to fill and we’re basically filling them. I mean some of them are -- all of them are important now, obviously, but most of them are in operating side of the business. Some of it actually, Colin was, I mean, when I look back when the problem surfaced in the Seat Structures & Mechanisms business within the company, many people volunteered to go where the problems were. One of the great parts and it’s a great company with a lot of really fine people. People raised their hand and said we want to be -- we want to go help them we want to be part of the turnaround Seat Structures & Mechanisms we did create some -- in the seat side of the business and so we need to back all those and so that’s the type of talent we are looking for.

Colin Langan

Analyst

Got it. And if I look at slide 13 that $91 million of operating performance, I mean, is that the main driver for the recent cuts? Because it looks like the SS&M business while it’s still struggling actually has been kind of in the right direction and is that the latest surprise that drove that the cut in June?

Fritz Henderson

Analyst

I would say when we cut it the guidance in June we said it was in part Seat Structures & Mechanisms in part seating. And Seat Structures & Mechanisms is going in the right direction but not at the pace that we had outlined for ourselves. So while we’re encouraged by getting the trajectory we’re just behind where we thought we’d be. And then the second part of it was the pretty significant pressure we saw in the quarter in seats. Jeff, anything you want to add to that?

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

No. I think you’ve got it.

Colin Langan

Analyst

I mean and then just lastly, I mean, where do you stand right now on the launch issues? Any quantification in the number of plants that are facing issues, any sense of the timing both in SS&M of getting rid of all of this side of freight over time, same thing now I guess on the Seating side?

Fritz Henderson

Analyst

Colin, we’ll have more to say about that when we communicate our 2019 target. I mean, we like the trajectory we’re on but we’re not satisfied with it. So I do think we have continued opportunity in front of us and not just in Seat Structures & Mechanisms we have in seats too.

Colin Langan

Analyst

Got it. Any sense though maybe the number of plants impacted right now. There is anything in past like you had a map of the plants that are underperforming does that come down at all or any directional color?

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

It’s changed a little bit, Colin. One of the -- there are some nice things that have happened we have highlighted for instance Clanton plant we have in Alabama that has been a huge part of our problem in the first quarter of the fiscal year, fourth quarter of last calendar year. That plant was hugely negative there was a big problem launch. That problem has turned into the blackest or that plant has turned into blackest, it’s not above breakeven and improving. We have experienced some other launches. So the problems has shifted around a little bit and I think to Fritz’s point, it’s the processes and the people and making sure we adhere to these processes and make sure we have all the people, especially the operations and engineering community tied together on launching this program successfully.

Colin Langan

Analyst

Got it. All right. Thanks for taking my question.

Fritz Henderson

Analyst

Thanks, Colin.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from John Murphy from Bank of America Merrill Lynch. You may go ahead.

John Murphy

Analyst

Good morning, guys and it’s great to hear from you again, Fritz.

Fritz Henderson

Analyst

Thanks, John.

John Murphy

Analyst

Welcome to the call.

Fritz Henderson

Analyst

Thanks.

John Murphy

Analyst

As you’re looking at there is another component to this other than sort of the near-term service structuring it’s sort of the long-term embedding on business. I’m just curious as you’re going out and quoting on Seating business what kind of margin requirements do you need to hit your return requirements, really more simply can you bid business at a 5% to 6% margin and still make good returns or do you need to do something a lot higher? I’m just curious how aggressive you can be in the market to rebuild the book?

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

So John, thanks for the question. I would say, my focus here started on Seat Structures & Mechanisms. And what’s interesting to me is, I think, we now have a good handle on where our capacity is, whether it’s the capacity, I’m not talking about just physical capacity in the plants, but also people capacity and the launch programs effectively. And that capacity is less spent the business, which has been brought in. So in part that created the challenges we’ve had. A number of components, John, we are full and so we’re -- it’s basically -- to the extent we’re going to be quoting in those areas where we’re full, we’re going to get a good return on that investment. And to be honest in the past when I look at it, we probably didn’t get the return. We have probably certainly have not. So I do think in Seat Structures & Mechanisms, as I said in my comments, we already are being more selective. We’re full in the number of areas and we’re going to be disciplined about really focusing on areas where we have both seats, as well as components. On the Seat side, capital intensity per program is less per dollar revenue. On the other hand to me material margin is half of what you might see in a Seat Structures & Mechanisms program. So you’re -- you’ve got to make sure that you can launch them well, because when you have issues like premium freight and cost of product quality and your disrupting customers, there’s no room in a program for that. So, again, my focus is really about what is the capacity organization to execute and as we think about sitting, are we doing it strategically, are we managing for I call the front end of the following within the company to refer to as TBL, but are we looking at programs strategic customers, where we have the capability, obviously, replace this business generally as lower risk then new business. New business can be very strategic. I wish there was an algorithm I can apply. But I do think that when I look at seating programs they have the ability to have a good return on investment, because the lower level of capital intensity per program, but there is really -- there’s no room for inefficiency and launch and waste. And so I just want to make sure that the bidding business we’re bidding on we’re going to be able to execute and not have problems for whoever is sitting on this chair two years from now.

John Murphy

Analyst

Okay. And then just to, kind of, follow-up on that on a near-term, we look at slide 13, Jeff when you went through sort of the three buckets there at 91 million, kind of two questions, the operating waste and premium freight of $40 million, I mean, is that usually sort of the inverse and a good guy? If we were to think about normal terms of a positive $40 million to offset the material and the other cost increases?

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

Yeah. Great question. I would say -- I wouldn’t say it’s good guy, because there’s always some element of launch that goes in, but on a quarter-over-quarter basis you would expect it to be relatively neutral, right. So depending on getting a little bit more launch activity and one year than the next maybe you’ll have little bit more operational waste floating through. But the part that was really off on those three equations was the third one. Our operations really need to have -- part of this industry as we get priced down to customers. That’s a part of our industry unfortunate that’s been there for a long time. We get a little bit of that recovers from our supply base, but what we really need to do is by improving efficiency on the floor. And as we run units as we start to get in second, third, fourth years of production, we need to find those efficiencies improve, and not the key element of the trade-off between what we get from a pricing perspective. In this quarter not only did we not make those improvements, we actually went backwards in the improvements and it performed at a worse productivity level than we did in the previous year. All that really exaggerated the problems that you see here in these numbers.

John Murphy

Analyst

Got it. And assuming the second factor there you kind of mentioned material margin, I am sorry, I kind of missed the language. But it mean, it sounded like the spread between what you’re charging customers versus what you’re buying from suppliers shrunk and that created a $28 million headwind. Is that sort of subcomponents that you’re buying, or I’m just trying to understand that?

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

Yeah. Let me be more clear. So, I was just mentioning a part of our business as we generally give reduced prices to our customers in the second year and the third year of a program being in production. And that’s to really reflect the fact that we should be getting more efficient on our factory floor. That’s fairly normal that $28 million, which I mentioned, which is the price reductions we give to our customers on a total basis less the price reductions we’re able to get from our material vendors, and we really need to go and offset that, so the bogey if we would have done this right is we wouldn’t have had operational waste or we wouldn’t have had any debt increases. We would have still have that $28 million and we would’ve delivered 28 or more of operational improvements from a productivity standpoint, which would offset that whole equation.

John Murphy

Analyst

Okay. And then on…

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

What I’d say is the operating typical or the way that we intend to operate the business.

John Murphy

Analyst

Got it. And then the Chinese JV equity income, I think has been guided down a couple of times? Is that all FX or is there something going on there in the JV?

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

So when we, I mean, the biggest piece relating to equity income has been Wi-Fi, which was our Interiors operation. And mostly almost exclusively due to production on programs in North America and Europe a real shortage of labor in Eastern Europe, so that has been sort of the earlier guide related to that business. Sales are there for the most part, but getting people and having from an operating standpoint that business has struggled a bit particularly in Europe but a little bit in the U.S. too. They’re most recent sort of movement that since we have done it has really just been FX. The RMB raises you have seen went from 6.3% and has moved quite a bit and as the RMB has weakened. That is a big hurt to us just in general as the RMB weakens.

John Murphy

Analyst

And just lastly as you think about total liquidity, just curious what your thoughts are there and why you put the AR facility in place now? Is there something that is this sort of a measure of safety or was there something else specifically that motivated you to do that?

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

Yeah. One it’s cheap financing. It’s cheaper financing on our revolver and it’s pretty stable financing. It’s a good form. We have a very big pool of receivables. So it’s cheap. Its diversified risk for creditors so they like it and it does give us a little extra liquidity. So it’s kind of a win-win in those two markets.

John Murphy

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you very much.

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

Thanks, John.

Fritz Henderson

Analyst

Thanks, John.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from David Tamberrino with Goldman Sachs. You may go ahead.

David Tamberrino

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may go ahead.

Yeah. Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Just a couple of follow ups on the operational I guess performance for the quarter. From a Seating perspective taking a step back from where you were and the trajectory looks a little bit worse. Are you expecting improvement quarter over quarter as you head into the fourth quarter or could this be similarly a longer time period to kind of ride the ship on what are now seating issues and not just the SS&M side?

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may go ahead.

Yeah. Good question, David. I’d -- as you look through the whole year, we had guided for the 1250-ish EBITDA, you can kind of look to our quarterly projections and see we’re not expecting a whole lot different in the fourth quarter at least within those numbers, recognizing that it does take some time to drive those improvements. And as Fritz mentioned earlier on the call we have all hands on deck working our 2019 plan and improvement actions et cetera, and we’ll give you more color around post that as we get a little further. But for the fourth quarter some of those problems and what’s really built into our guidance is kind of continuing that employment through the fourth quarter.

David Tamberrino

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may go ahead.

Okay. And then maybe just switching gears when we think about going to market and some of the unprofitable programs from an SS&M perspective, Fritz since the company is looking to have these high level conversations with OEM. Do you think that it’s possible to price up with what the level of costs have been historically from the significant amount of request or changes that happened throughout the process from a structures perspective or in the event that you’re not able to -- are you prepared to potentially walk away from some of that unprofitable business as it comes back up for bid?

Fritz Henderson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may go ahead.

So for many years I was looking at this equation from one side of the lens. Now I’m looking at the equation from the other side of the same lens. I would say couple of things with respect to Seat Structures & Mechanisms. First, obviously, as Jeff talked about, you have the actual commodity escalation we have recovery mechanisms in our contracts. They do lag. The question we have is can we improve the efficiency of those recovery mechanisms, but they are -- they do exist in there. Second is, when our engineering changes made and there are costs that are put into the operation as a result of that we as a general rule as many suppliers we approach our customer. And I do think that we will not think I know we will continue to do that because as program changes we need to -- you quote on a particular program and you have a certain expectation of the changes you need to have a realistic discussion with your customer early. I should think in some cases, we didn’t have the discussions early enough at a number of the programs that we have going on. You tried not to do, obviously, is in the company has got a history of this of not walking away from business and not leading customers is stranded and not impacting customers. Unfortunately, we have impacted customers this year’s as a result of a number of our large difficulties, which is exactly what you don’t want to do. What you described it as what I would call an ultimate escalation, which you tried to avoid by having intelligent discussions with your customers about factors that are enclosing your business. I haven’t ruled anything out, but I just think that from a practical perspective we do business with virtually every OEM around the globe. Looking for the best parts of the company as the diversity of our customer base and our tight focus is the seating supplier including Seat Structures & Mechanisms. We have business with customers in multiple regions and so I think as a look at that ultimate question would you walk away from business, would you give this to the next customer. That’s a premature question. I mean, ultimately you can get to that point, but we’ve been historically not gotten to that point. You’ll find an answer and then you move on and then you have new programs. So it’s just the nature of the business.

David Tamberrino

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may go ahead.

That’s fair. But as we think about the progression for SS&M some of the headwinds that you’ve gotten or company has seen I should say for the last couple of quarters it doesn’t appear that is fully transpired from coming back to your customers and kind of extracting that price for the value that you’re providing?

Fritz Henderson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may go ahead.

It’s a definitely fair to say that it’s been slow relative to whatever request has been without a doubt in part why our recoveries been slower our progression has been slower. I think my own view is continued to work on the programs that we have and the plants today focus on the programs that we have in development with our SBT teams to make sure that we’re not making the mistakes we’ve had in the past and be much more disciplined on how we quote the future. That’s how I think about it rather than at one point we just give business back to customers because that’s really a very extreme step. So our focus is really on each of those three steps to try to improve the situation. In some of the cases, where we have programs in our underwater capital sunk, I can do anything about some capital. A learned a long time ago don’t worry about some capital just learn from it and get the business back and corrected so that you generate a margin and not repeat the mistakes of the past.

David Tamberrino

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may go ahead.

Understood. I appreciate the viewpoints. Thank you.

Fritz Henderson

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may go ahead.

Thank you.

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may go ahead.

Thanks, David.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Brian Johnson with Barclays Bank. You may go ahead.

Brian Johnson

Analyst · Barclays Bank. You may go ahead.

Yes. Good morning and also good to hear you, Fritz.

Fritz Henderson

Analyst · Barclays Bank. You may go ahead.

Thanks, Brian.

Brian Johnson

Analyst · Barclays Bank. You may go ahead.

So a couple of questions. First and especially given where you were a decade or so ago you’ve talked about both going back to the customer as around some of the programs where frankly it sounds like you misquoted. Second, you kind of talked about material recoveries which will require some compensate or some of which may be in the indexes, some of which might recorded discussions. So just putting on your head as a CFO, as a major OEM, given the Detroit three kind of were three up three down with missed profit expectations. How will those conversations go and maybe as a predicate to that, how much of the commodity recovery is just locked-in at a percentage of timing, and how much do you have to go begging for?

Fritz Henderson

Analyst · Barclays Bank. You may go ahead.

Thanks, Brian, for the comments. I don’t think most of it is locked-in. I mean, in other words, our customers have pretty clear policies with respect to metals escalation for example and it’s different. So, I mean, it’s interesting, I think, from program reviews where every customer is probably half of -- just about every customer has one, some of you has to have a dialogue, most of you actually have an index and every index is different. And some like a year, some like a quarter, some like six months, some average, it’s still over the map. But the reason is I think about it and totally now if I compare my former position with this one is business like ours, you quote, you provide LTH of price reduction, business like Seating has got naturally entire margins and you are doing price balance through lateral program. There is no room actually. I mean if you think about the margins in the business, there is no room for substantial absorption of material cost escalation for a supplier like us, or frankly, for any other supplier. Ultimately an OEM can make a decision about how they trade the product in the market. Our prices are generally going down, as a result of negotiations with our customers. So, as I think about it, relative to my former position or this one, that risk, if you will, is really concentrated at the OEM level. That’s how I think about it and it sounds like before actually because they can actually do something about it. When our pricing going down. So and you quote Seat Structures & Mechanisms program three years before the start of production, if you didn’t have escalation provisions I don’t know how you run this business, because you quote three years before you’ve got substantial amount of materials in your cost and then it runs for six years. So I don’t know how we would actually effectively run the business without having those sorts of mechanisms in place or have the ability to have a dialogue with your customer.

Brian Johnson

Analyst · Barclays Bank. You may go ahead.

Right. But then the pushback is well supplier margins are often higher than OEM margins and everyone is going to have to share in this commodity burden?

Fritz Henderson

Analyst · Barclays Bank. You may go ahead.

I can guarantee you that’s not the case in our case.

Brian Johnson

Analyst · Barclays Bank. You may go ahead.

I mean that’s good news bad news about where your margins are?

Fritz Henderson

Analyst · Barclays Bank. You may go ahead.

Well, but I would also say, I mean, I knew what the contribution margins were for car or for truck or for SUV and in the end they have -- in OEM, I mean, I can’t speak for them today, but they have levers they can pull. Our levers are price goes down in terms of our value add, so that that’s my perspective.

Brian Johnson

Analyst · Barclays Bank. You may go ahead.

Okay. And second question on China, I mean the equity income has been a little bit mushy. How do you get confidence, and how do we get confidence to even greater distance that they aren’t, A, operational issues over there, B, customer issues, or C, an erosion just as the competitors target your 40% share, and how do you in terms of how you’re spending your time work with the Chinese JVs?

Fritz Henderson

Analyst · Barclays Bank. You may go ahead.

Okay. Brian. So what I would say is this is week six for me, week seven in China and actually that’s where I’m going to next week. What I would say is when I look objectively at the performance of our ventures in China. Obviously, we’ve had pressures at YFAI which Jeff talked about. We’ve had pressures at one of our ventures that’s been impacted by one OEMs volume. The rest of our businesses were unaffected, performed well actually. And relative to the operational difficulties, I’ll just make a comment. I made the comment in my presentation that the company has good processes, but when we’ve had flawed launches we haven’t followed them. Those processes are -- have been shared and have been ingrained in our ventures over time in China. They followed the processes. They don’t have the same launch problems. It’s not like its perfect, but it’s nowhere near the issues we’re facing in either the metals business over there or the seat business over there and to me, it’s as good a case study as I’ve seen about what happens when you follow your processes, good things happen. That’s what happens over here. So we’ve not had the operational issues. I won’t say it’s perfect, because David, for example, in one of our ventures over there, we’re tooling up a substantial amount of components. But, no, we do not have the operational issues there be faced in the U.S. or in Europe for that matter and it’s because they generally follow the processes with for more discipline.

Brian Johnson

Analyst · Barclays Bank. You may go ahead.

Okay. Thanks.

Fritz Henderson

Analyst · Barclays Bank. You may go ahead.

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our last question comes from Joe Spak with RBC Capital Markets. You may go ahead.

Joe Spak

Analyst

Thanks for squeezing me in. Jeff, just -- you talked about some challenges that popped up late in the quarter. And I guess, I just wanted to get your view or comfort with some of the European production schedules related to WLTP. It seems like some of those issues came more to head after that June announcement?

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

Yeah. I would say, things that would have -- anything that’s going to hurt revenue isn’t our problem, Joe. To be honest, we probably could have used a little less volume in places in our business, and I would say, those are not the challenges. I’d say the bigger issues that we’ve been fighting with is exchanged definitely has moved a little bit out since we gave that. But we’re working to offset that and that’s going to have a bigger impact just on bringing the money back or the equity income we have in China.

Joe Spak

Analyst

Okay. And then, I guess, related to China may be building off the prior question, you talked about some moves you made, including asset sales to improved cash flow, have you had -- or are you planning to have conversations with some of those JV partners to try to improve the cash flow situation via those ventures?

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

Do you mean dividend flow, Joe?

Joe Spak

Analyst

Well, either dividends or potential monetization or sale.

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

Yeah. I mean, I think the last one is really hard to comment on but we have -- Fritz said he’s going on over there next week.

Fritz Henderson

Analyst

Yeah. Week seven.

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

Yeah. And I spent a fair amount of time over there and with our partners and they come over here, so we have lots of dialogue. The good news is they like cash out of these ventures as well. One of the big things we are building and we’ve talked to you before is, our metals operation there has been going through a bit of new facility and some expansion. That business is mid-teen EBIT. It has growing up to three-quarters of $1 billion or so. It’s got big potential to grow. It can probably help offset some of our issues as it sort of goes up. That’s a big source of activity there and they’ve done it as Fritz said, they’ve done it really well. We talk to them about all those ventures, we talk to them about what’s going on in each of the 19 or so ventures we have I’d say we’re very connected, probably looking to maximize cash and always talking about the future as well. It’s just hard for us to -- a lot of those…

Joe Spak

Analyst

It’s a joint venture?

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

It’s a joint venture, right, and we’ve got to jointly agree on whatever we do.

Joe Spak

Analyst

Okay. Thanks a lot.

Fritz Henderson

Analyst

Thanks, Joe.

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

Thanks, Joe.

Fritz Henderson

Analyst

I think, just wrapping it up. Again, thanks very much for joining the call with us this morning for both the analysts that cover us appreciate very much your support and your questions and the dialogue. And for our investors, thank you very much for being an investor in Adient. It’s been a tough ride, we understand that and we understand our responsibility to fix our problems and get back to the kind of operational performance that you should expect. So thanks very much for the time this morning. That’s all we have. Thanks a lot.

Jeff Stafeil

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And that concludes today’s conference. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.