Good morning and welcome to the Agree Realty Second Quarter 2024 Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this event is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Reuben Treatman, Senior Director of Corporate Finance. Please go ahead, Reuben.

Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Agree Realty's second quarter 2024 earnings call. Before turning the call over to Joey and Peter to discuss our results for the quarter, let me first run through the cautionary language. Please note that during this call, we will make certain statements that may be considered forward-looking under federal securities law, including statements related to our updated 2024 guidance. Our actual results may differ significantly from the matters discussed in any forward-looking statements for a number of reasons. Please see yesterday's earnings release and our SEC filings, including our latest annual report on Form 10-K for discussion of various risks, uncertainties underlying our forward-looking statements. In addition, we discussed non-GAAP financial measures, including core funds from operations, or core FFO, adjusted funds from operations, or AFFO, and net debt to recurring EBITDA. Reconciliations of our historical non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release, website and SEC filings. I'll now turn the call over to Joey.

Thanks, Reuben, and thank you all for joining us this morning. I'm very pleased to report that we've had a strong first half of the year as our discipline has proven warranted. On our last call, I mentioned our improved visibility into the acquisition market. I am pleased to say that visibility turned into high-quality closed transactions and similar return profiles. Our team's efforts continue to produce unique and proprietary deal flow. And we continue to identify attractive investment opportunities across all three external growth platforms. As mentioned, our investment activity during the quarter was supported by capital markets transactions that bolstered our fortress balance sheet with approximately $650 million of unsecured debt and equity capital. In addition, we received commitment to expand our revolving credit facility to $1.25 billion, which will provide us with pro forma total liquidity of $1.7 billion. This additional dry powder will enable us to execute our strategy for the remainder of the year and into 2025. At quarter end, pro forma for outstanding forward equity, our fortress balance sheet stand at 4.1 times net debt to recurring EBITDA, providing us with unparalleled optionality as we continue to execute on our pipeline. Given our investment activity of nearly $345 million during the first half of the year, our balance sheet and liquidity position, we have continued to aggregate an incredibly high-quality and robust pipeline. I am pleased to announce we have increased our acquisition guidance to approximately $700 million from $600 million previously, with a rapidly changing environment, that number could prove conservative. However, I think it is prudent given the lack of [indiscernible] into fourth quarter acquisition activity and the rapid change in our cost of capital. We will continue to be disciplined capital allocators and maintain our stringent underwriting standards. Given our liquidity…

Thank you, Joey. Starting with the balance sheet. As Joey mentioned, we had a very active order in the capital markets, raising nearly $650 million of capital. In May, we completed a $450 million public bond offering comprised of 5.625% senior unsecured notes due in 2034. In connection with the offering, we terminated related swap agreements of $300 million, receiving over $4 million upon termination and reducing our effective interest rate. The offering further stagger our maturities and extends our weighted-average debt maturity to approximately 7 years, excluding the unsecured revolving credit facility. During the quarter, we sold over 3.2 million shares of forward equity via our ATM program, raising net proceeds of approximately $195 million. As of June 30, we had approximately 7.1 million shares remaining to be settled under existing forward sale agreements, which are anticipated to raise net proceeds of over $430 million upon settlement. Recently, we further strengthened our balance sheet with commitments to increase our revolving credit facility from $1 billion to $1.25 billion with strong support from our key banking partners. The facility includes an accordion option that will allow us to request additional lender commitments up to a total of $2 billion. The term of the facility will be extended to 2029, including extension options and our cost to borrow will be reduced by 5 basis points based on our anticipated credit ratings and leverage ratio at the time of closing. Our capital markets transactions provide us with more than $1.7 billion of total liquidity, pro forma for the closing of our expanded $1.25 billion revolving credit facility, the previously mentioned outstanding forward equity and more than $24 million of cash on hand. As of quarter end, pro forma for the settlement of our outstanding forward equity, net debt to recurring EBITDA was…

Thank you, Peter. At this time, operator, we can open it up for questions.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] So our first question comes from the line of Ronald Kamdem from Morgan Stanley.

Great. Congrats on the quarter and raising the guidance. Maybe just starting with acquisition, the guidance implies an acceleration in the second half of the year. Maybe can you give some comments on what you're seeing in the pipeline and sort of cap rate turn.

Sure. Good morning, Ron. I'll tell you, look, this has been, as I mentioned, a rapid ascent of our stock price here in a fairly dynamic market, obviously, with a lot of crazy stuff going on. And so I think, most importantly, we started sourcing for Q4 yesterday. And Q3 sourcing stopped yesterday as well. And so again, given the 70 days average letter of intent execution to close, let's call it, give it another couple of weeks to negotiate a letter of intent. There's the basic transaction time line for you. What I'm excited about is now turning to Q4 with an improved cost of capital, it's been 12 to 18 months here of grided teeth and cleanse jaws while we sit here and watch the stock price founder and rates creep higher. And so we are -- we don't see any material macro changes yet on the cap rate horizon. But with an improved cost of capital, we certainly can lead into transactions that were high quality and additive to the portfolio.

And just on the cap rate, any cap rate trends, any commentary? Is it flat, getting better?

For Q3, I would anticipate similar cap rates to Q2, that pipeline is effectively built subject to diligence in closing already. Q4, we're going to see what's out there. We started -- like I said, we started yesterday.

Great. And my second one is just on -- maybe can you comment on just the bad debt assumptions, if any change to the watch list and have you sort of seen any sign that the low-end consumer may be under pressure. Is that -- are you hearing anything from sort of tenants on that front? Thanks.

I think definitely, and I'll let Peter comment on the bad debt assumptions. The low-end consumer has been under pressure, undoubtedly. We really look at the consumer in 3 tranches, 50,000 median household income, 100,000 than over 150,000. And I think if you see the pressure on the 50,000 that's reflected in the Dollar General performance, if you look at 100,000, the Walmart core customer, they're getting trade down over 150,000 seems to be strong, just certainly due to the overall market environment in their 401(k) and their portfolios being elevated with that market. And so the low-end consumer continues to struggle. You see it in the restaurant prints. You see it in the Dollar General prints. But the middle of the road there, the $100,000 median household income is fairly strong, but we're seeing the trade down effect there. And again, that's reflective in Walmart's performance to date. Go ahead Peter.

Ron, from a credit loss perspective, in terms of what were contemplated in guidance, we're still assuming approximately 50 basis points of credit loss in our guidance range. And again, that's fully loaded credit loss. So, any form of us not receiving rent is contractually obligated is included in the 50 basis points. Year-to-date, we've experienced roughly 25 basis points of credit loss. So while the portfolio continues to [indiscernible] 25 basis points is in line roughly with our historical average. We thought it prudent to keep 50 basis points in our guidance for the time being.

Great. Thanks, so much. That’s it for me.

Thanks, Ron.

Operator, are you there?

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Smedes Rose from Citi. Please go ahead.

Hi, thank you. I just wanted to ask a little more about the acceleration in the pipeline. You said not a lot of change on the macro front. So, I mean is it really driven by what you described, I think last quarter is kind of the 3D and then very sort of active or proactive outbound calling on your part? And are you -- it seems like the environment is maybe starting to stabilize a little bit more. I was just wondering if there's any sort of organic pickup in transaction activity that maybe is helping you out as well?

Yeah, Smedes, I agree with you. We see some stabilization obviously in the 10-year treasury, which seems to be range bound that could change tomorrow. But that stabilization does help the liquidity in the market and sellers' willingness to transact. But that said, that can change on a dime. Our transaction volume, as we mentioned in the Q1 call, would pick up in Q2 because transactions for Q1, going back to the time line are generally sourced during Q4 when we saw the roller coaster, the treasury peaking at 5%, and so that stabilization pulls through generally to the next quarter, again, given that transaction time line. And I think we'll see some pull-through to Q3. And like I said, I'm excited for again, assuming a normalized environment here, which could be a tough assumption.

Okay. Okay. And then I just -- I wanted to ask you just you issued on the ATM during the quarter, price is about 10% lower so where the stock is now. And I realize there's some relatively modest impact in the dilution methodology. But how are you thinking about potentially continuing to issue shares here just as you maybe gear up for 2025?

Our balance sheet is in a great position, a pro forma 4.1 times levered obviously, with pro forma $1.7 billion on liquidity executing on the $450 million unsecured bond offering with no material debt maturities this balance sheet is a fortress. We'll look to how we deploy in terms of your prior question in terms of uses. If we see the need for incremental capital, we'll certainly look at alternative options here. But again, we are locked and loaded from a balance sheet perspective from any angle.

Okay. Thank you.

Thanks, Smedes.

Your next question comes from Joshua Dennerlein with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Hi. This is Farrell Granath on behalf of Josh. I just wanted to ask specifically about the competition in the market now with the also increased acquisition pipeline, what you're seeing?

No real material changes in competition in the market. The 1031 buyers are generally sidelined. The levered individual purchasers are generally signed line. We seem to see CMBS market come back to a degree with lower LTVs. Institutional competition in our space remains extremely muted given the price point and nature of our transactions. We're really focused on those $4 million to $5 million transactions, those relationship transactions where we can create value. And so competition is extremely limited.

Great. And also just going back to the watch list. I was curious if there are any names that recently have been added or fallen off in anything that you're keeping?

Nothing material that I can think of. It's been a fairly consistent watch list. Obviously, the cons [ph] was in the news yesterday. We don't have any cons and there have been new cons, maybe they insured themselves. But we don't have these restaurant tenants that we skew with the challenges in the news as well. And so it's been a consistent watch list, which we're on top of here, and the asset management team is on top of in case we get these spaces back. And frankly, we're excited to get some of these spaces back to really redo the Memphis, Tennessee former Bed Bath & Beyond, which I discussed in the prepared remarks.

Great. Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Mitch Germain from Citizens JMP. Please go ahead.

Thanks for taking my question. Joey, I'm curious when you look at like CVS versus Walgreens and you're making a bet on Warren and obviously trimming exposure to the other, what are the nuances of one store versus the other that gives you confidence in that model in that brand?

Great question. We've talked extensively over the years, and there's a slide in the deck about our frankly, our dissatisfaction with Walgreens business model and performance. What we're looking for in a 21st century suburban pharmacy is a one or 3 things. a high-performing store that's generally doing over $12 million, $13 million with limited competition, a ground lease or a basis that makes sense in the 21st century omni-channel world. I'm hesitant to compare, but I'll compare suburban pharmacies today to movie theaters. Movie theaters are flowing away in neither our suburban pharmacies, they're just both going to be rationalized. And so we're very focused on the real estate fundamentals, the residual values and the individual store performance. You will not see us make any incremental investments in Walgreens. Obviously, we've gone from over 40% in 2010, and negligible today for a reason. The only pharmacy we're interested in is CBS. Those, I think, our CBS exposure is most likely peaked here. But we're looking for unique transactions that are your prototypical suburban pharmacy, Catty Corner or Kitty corner Walgreens paying $375,000 a year and $28 per square foot in a 14,000 square foot box that is infungible.

Great. Thanks for that. And obviously, I appreciate the white paper last week that you wrote, and I'm curious about C-stores, they're becoming obviously a greater emphasis of the portfolio. Is there -- obviously, there seems to be still a lot of competition with those types of assets. So is it kind of through developer relationships, corporate? How are you getting success in growing that business?

All three platforms. We are very active on the development front specifically with C-stores, large-format C stores as well as the developer funding platform. Third, I would tell you, acquisitions just due to the cap rates. The interesting thing about the C-store white paper is people's perception of an understanding of the large-format C-store space is generally based on where they're located regionally. And I'll tell you here in Michigan with sheets just entering come and go with now Maverick with an entry into the space. Quick Trip entering Michigan we're not familiar with the C-store. The Michigan consumer is not familiar with the large-format C-store that sells food and beverage for off-premises consumption, primarily coffee, breakfast and launch here. And so as C-stores, these regional operators, Wawa, sheets quick trip they go through a number of them expand across the country, what they're learning and what consumers are becoming accustomed to is the C-store becoming a quick service restaurant. The C-store becoming a place to grab something quickly front end, which they historically grabbed in the pharmacy, a bag of chips, soda, any of those things. And so it's very interesting to watch them continue to grow. I think Wawa alone has launched -- announced seven new states and then watch the regionalized operators expand across the country and consumers flocked to it. We saw it in Florida with Wawa. Now they have the history of retract in Florida. So a large format operator, I'd tell you from my perspective, inferior food and beverage, but Wawa's success in Florida and other states has really led the way, and we were an initial developer for Wawa on the state of Florida prior to their entry has led the way in given these C-stores confidence that consumers outside of their core region are going to continue to really be attractive to the brand.

Thank you. Congrats on the quarter.

Thank you very much.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Eric Borden from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just building off the comment on the white paper, just given that C-stores are growing presence and you highlight how they're potentially taking share from QSRs and coffee shops how high are you willing to take your exposure to C-stores? Could they be eventually become a top one or two sector for you? And does this change your view on your current exposure to your QSR portfolio?

I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, Peter, C-stores are number four at approximately 8% of the overall portfolio. We don't have a C-store tenant in our top 15, I believe, Wawa's our largest, just under 15 at approximately 1.7%, 1.8%, I believe, sorry, 7 11 we have in there above them to about 2.4%. There is lots of room for us to continue add C-store. I mean just taking them from, let's call it, the 8% to 10% of our overall portfolio from a sector perspective would be a very significant jump as the underlying portfolio denominator continues to grow. So we will aggressively continue to pursue those transactions. Many of them are on ground leases. We have very strong relationships and are growing additional relationships in that phase. And I think C-stores are going to be amongst them and off-price, the highest growth sectors and overall in retail for probably the next five to 10 years. In terms of QSR, it's very negligible in our portfolio. We quickly divested the Burger Kings and the other things in the 1031 market when private equity entered and purchasers were paying side cash for them. I think we have, Peter, our QSR exposure is what?

It's roughly 1% today. And similar to our C-store exposure, if we are acquiring or if we own a quick service restaurant or any type of restaurant, we're looking to do so on a ground lease basis.

And I believe Chipotle is number one or number two, and those are all ground leases in terms of QSRs. But we have stayed away from the Popeyes and the Burger King franchisees and franchisees and Wendy franchisees and all the Yum! brand franchises. One, we don't like the real estate, the buildings are disposable, Inspector Gadget style, if you recall, and then two, private equity, this came into the space, levered up balance sheet to drive cost down because they're unable to raise prices fast enough to drive EBITDA and the rent coverage post sale leaseback and divesting of the real estate. So we don't like food here in terms of selling it. We like to eat it. Food as an ancillary product in the QSR space for convenience, we're big fans of, but you will not see us make any significant investments in the restaurant-based apps on a ground lease.

That's helpful. And you touched on this a little bit in your prepared remarks as it relates to the 2024 and 2025, expirations, how are your conversations with tenants for the 2025? Are there tenants looking to renew early just given the limited availability for retail real estate? And the second part of my question is, are there potential move-outs that we should have on our radar?

Generally, tenants don't renew early unless you give them something in exchange. We're confident of the, I think it's 64 lease expiration. The vast majority will be exercising options, those notifications frankly, start in the fourth quarter of this year, if not the end of the third quarter of this year, there's generally a minimum of a 90-day lease notification or option notification that's required and so we'll be patient. At the same time, if we see any vulnerabilities from either the store level data that we receive, the store level conversations, corporate conversations or market dynamics. We will definitely be in front of it and the asset management team led by our COO, Nicole Witteveen is on top of it. And no material move out that you should be aware of that are on our radar as of today.

Appreciate it. Thank you.

Your next question comes from Brad Heffern with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Yes, thanks. morning everyone. You have this disciplined capital allocator slide in the deck, Slide 12 think your own WACC calculation and the cap rates from the second quarter would put you in the pedal to metal category. Would you say that that's what you were thinking pedal to the metal for the fourth quarter and for 2025, assuming nothing changes? Or is there something that would moderate that view?

Great question, Brad. If you look at our spot cost of capital, it's down approximately 50 basis points in the last fair to say 90 days, Peter, 80 days. I do mention that the $700 million in guidance in the prepared remarks could prove conservative. We have full optionality given our balance sheet and our cost of capital, to one, either maintain the 150 basis point spread, we'll call it, mid-7s cash or to put the pedal to the metal and keep it to the 100 basis point spread, which is the lighter green. Now, we'll look at that on a case-by-case basis on a qualitative basis, we'll also look at larger transactions, if those make sense in context of our portfolio. I think the interesting thing here is for fourth quarter, we maintained full optionality. And as I mentioned earlier, sourcing started yesterday, given our clock in ARC. So, we have about -- ARC tells us. We have 92 days left to source for 2024. We are excited about those 92 days, what it brings our cost of capital and balance sheet affords us full flexibility now. And we're going to see how that materializes. So, I think next quarter, we'll have much more visibility into it. And again, the $700 million could prove conservative or we could push for that 150 basis point spread and say, we're going to maintain discipline. That's going to be subject to the transactions that we're able to dig up.

Okay, got it. And then do you think cap rates will react to kind of the broader change in cost of capital for the public names? And will it be a slow to go down as they were to go up?

I try to avoid predicting cap rates always on these calls and in any forum. Predictions always seem to be wrong if I had my money, they peaked, put my money on it. They peaked. That said, just given the craziness of the world that we live in today, we're not going to place it either way, and we're going to be -- bet either way maintain our discipline here. The volatility out there from a macro, from a geopolitical, from a domestic perspective is something like I've never seen in my career, obviously. And so we're going to maintain our agility and flexibility here. I wouldn't anticipate cap rates materially moving up, but I could be wrong.

Okay. Thank you.

Great.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Renata Lorie [ph] from Baird. Please go ahead.

It's Alec Feygin. Thank you for taking my question. How much has the transactable TAM increased by your current cost of equity relative to the beginning of the year?

At the beginning of the year, we were weighing out do nothing scenarios. So that was -- look, it's been a dramatic shift here. Again, that ties into the hesitancy of guidance, an acquisition guidance for the year. This has been somewhat of a roller coaster. Frankly, we were on a defensive mindset here. We executed on a number of internal initiatives to, frankly, prepare for a slowdown. We deployed the do-nothing scenario and articulated that to the Street followed by our initial guidance or inaugural guidance, I should say, with the approximately $600 million. Since then, as we've talked about on prior questions here, our cost of capital has decreased almost 10% materially here. And so it's been a roller coaster of the year. I'm extremely proud of the team, the discipline they've maintained. It is never easy for a team or a company to go through these types of strategic changes and these types of market-based changes. But we buckled down. We maintained their discipline. We ramped up our efforts. And now I anticipate we see the fruits of that labor.

Got it. Thank you. And second one for me. I also enjoyed reading your most recent white paper, things like a few of the questions have been asked already, but if you can just kind of tell us what the percentage of your current C-store exposure is large format versus smaller regular format?

It's all large format. We don't believe in small format C-stores and maybe one or two odd ones that we have for some reason. We don't believe in the small format C-store, again, just harkening back to my comment about the state of Michigan. Historically, gas stations, we didn't call them C-stores, had an auto base sold cigarettes, gum and a cooler. We weren't familiar with that. Now some local operators in 7-Eleven expanded to offer food and beverage. We don't believe in the small format C-stores as the white paper articulates, the margin is not in fuel. The margin is in food and beverage, liquid gold is coffee, sitting in front of me right now. That is where C-stores drive margin EBITDA. And so we do not invest in small-format C-stores absent a ground lease or some unique circumstance.

That's helpful. Thank you for the time.

Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Upal Rana from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Great. Thank you. Joey, with the possibility of a September rate cut being high at this point, how would that maybe impact your strategy leading up to that cut or even after, assuming we get one?

Look, I think a rate cut, a short-term rate cut, is most likely already priced into the market today. I mean, we are approaching August here now. So I would anticipate that's already approaching. You can see it priced in at the 90-plus percent probability today. So I would tell you that it's no impact on our overall strategy here.

Got it, okay. And then just as a follow-up, what's your opinion on the current state of retailers broadly? We continue to hear some more of these companies either filing, restructuring, closing stores. I just want to get your view on the current state of the market and maybe what you may be hearing. And obviously, you don't own a lot of these names, but just want to get your true sense?

We are back to capitalism in retail or Darwinism in retail. The strong will survive. The large players, which we're focused on in our sandbox, with the balance sheets to invest in labor, in price and in fulfillment strategies. And we're in the fifth inning, sixth inning max of a transition to an omni-channel world. The legacy retailers that were frankly bolstered by COVID, by the access to cheap capital or IPOs, we're going to see them continue to fade and go away. This is something that we fully anticipated. It's back to a normal cycle, a normal business cycle that was frankly averted in the last decade. That was frankly averted during COVID and in a post-COVID world where money was free. And so now we are -- it's about balance sheet, it's about execution, it's about value proposition for consumers. And that's irrespective of where the macroeconomic or consumer health lies. In dollar general, we talked about how they have had a more difficult time because the $50,000 median household income is obviously challenged. Dollar general is going to be just fine here, guys. They are a provider of food for rural America today that probably would be a national security threat if they went out of business. At the same time, they have a huge balance sheet. They have a growing demand on an overall basis, inclusive of their new store count for their goods, primarily now servicing food essentials, all of them. And so we're going to go back to a world, we're in the world again. I had a conversation yesterday with a turnaround consultant who was very busy working with retailers. We're back in the world where the strong survive and the weak will die off. And that's a good thing. That's capitalism.

Great. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Michael Goldsmith from UBS. Please go ahead.

Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. We appreciate the guidance and increased visibility into the algorithm. Now, I think as the investment community tries to digest your approach to the outlook. You've talked about the acquisition guidance of $700 million being conservative. You may have mentioned that like at least three times on the call. And you took it up in this quarter. So just trying to get a sense of how are you looking at setting that guidance? For instance, like does reflect your visibility into the third quarter and then a haircut of what you think is reasonable for fourth quarter? Just trying to get some better understanding of like the mindset when putting that piece of -- when opening that number on the piece of paper.

Yeah. Look, it reflects the current visibility we have and that gives us flexibility to deploy capital subject to our cost of capital. I mean this is all packaged together. So if you look from 30,000 feet, we're assuming treasury method of dilution in our guidance, as Peter articulated. At the same time, we're not incorporating any assumptions that are non-static based. So when I talk about it being potentially conservative, I'm just not willing to go out there on a limb given the volatility we've had with the presidential candidate being attempted assassination, another one dropping out of the race, the volatility we have in this world to go out on a limb and tell everyone, we're going to do some wild number in the fourth quarter of this year when acquisition sourcing for fourth quarter started yesterday. We have $1.2 million in our fourth quarter pipeline for acquisitions. That is normal. That is our normal cycle. We don't want any more than that because we don't want to be on a forward basis. And so we just don't have visibility. This is a conservative company all around, whether it's our guidance, our balance sheet, our management philosophy and then how we message to the Street. And so we're going to stick to that philosophy through and through. Now again, I hope fourth quarter proves much more -- much larger, I'll call it, than our conservative underlying assumptions here. But again, we maintain the willingness to stick to now 150 basis point spread and be strategic and surgical about the acquisition pipeline and what we execute on, or step on the gas, if qualitatively transactions warranted.

Thank you very much for that. I think we can all appreciate that. And my second question is related to the dispositions during the quarter. It included Mister Car Wash and Gerber, similar to last quarter. What are the characteristics of the properties you're looking to recycle? And should we read anything into the cap rates on the dispositions moving up 20 basis points sequentially?

No, I appreciate the question. This was part of our disposition program and capital recycling of non-core assets on a very aggressive basis. So as you can see, in the mid-6s here, these were Gerber collisions and basically Florida-based stuff with Florida-based money that is overheated. And so this was the first half of the year capital recycling program that is now most likely transitioned given our cost of capital here. Our goal was to dispose of assets that were non-core and recycle that north of 100 basis points wide. Obviously, that has changed. We were prepared not to enter any the equity markets in the do-nothing scenario. And so we bolstered our asset management and disposition capabilities. We've now executed and, I believe, $60 million of those -- of that type of asset recycling. Not that anything is not for sale here, all real estate is sale at the right price. But at the same time here, we are focused on offset that.

Thank you very much. Good luck in the back half.

Appreiciate it.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of John Kilichowski from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Hi. Thank you. So early on the call, you mentioned that distress is picking up in the market as it relates to acquisition opportunities. Are these idiosyncratic? Or are they specific to certain geographies or asset types.

I don't recall saying distress is picking up in the market. I mean we think distress is pretty static throughout the market based upon what we call the 3Ds, death, divorce and debt, whether it's asset-specific debt or just overall capital structure of an entity or an institution or individual. And so, I think there's a level of distress in the market, refinancing obviously is down, LTVs are down, proceeds are down, local and regional banks are challenged here, developers are challenged. There's a level of distress that we continue to work through, take advantage of across all three platforms. But I wouldn't say we've had -- I've seen a notable increase in distress throughout the course of the year.

Okay. Understood. Maybe it was just a mention of distress. So second question here. Have you noticed a material change in seller behavior following either the most recent CPI print or how sentiment has changed around the election?

Sentiment change on the election, that's hot off the press, I can't tell you anything on that front. In terms of the most recent CPI print, this is such a large and fragmented space. I think sellers today if they're waiting for 1 cut or 2 cuts from the Fed and correlate it to the 10-year treasury and cap rates thereafter looking at tertiary effects. So, I tell you, look, I think sellers have come to the realization now with the stabilized or semi-stabilized treasury in the 4.2 to 4.3 band here that were in a higher for longer period. Reality is amongst those guys. And so what we tell our team members is that is our working assumption. If a seller does not have that or a potential seller does not have that working assumption move on to the next one.

Got it. Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Linda Tsai from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Hi. Just a follow-up on C-stores in your white paper. You highlighted several WAWA, Sheetz, QuikTrip, 7-Eleven. What does term look like for these deals? And what you cap rates look like across these different concepts? And then I guess last question is like, who would you consider your main competition in competing for these names?

So term is generally 15 to 20 years. Many of them are on ground lease structures. That's WAWA'S preferred format is a groundly structure. You can see that reflected in our investor deck with just our WAWA exposure there. Sheetz is very similar, generally on ground lease structures, 7-Eleven generally on a turnkey basis. Cap rates vary. There's a lot of regional purchasers for these operators. By the way, I should apologize to all the Bucky's fans that we didn't include them in the white paper because I got lots of e-mails, but where is Bucky's, where is Bucky's, where is Bucky's, amazing operation, if you're not familiar, but only about 100 stores. We didn't want to make it the white encyclopedia, it's a white paper. So we include everybody, so I apologize for those Bucky's fans. We'd love to do business with Bucky's. Cap rates range. You get a lot of local buyers that fall in love with the WAWA down the street or the Sheetz to the QuickTrip the street from them. And so cap rates range, we're not -- we still see trades in the 5s. We don't pay attention to that stuff. Again, I'd remind everyone, Linda, that we're working across all three external platforms, your growth platforms, to source C-store opportunities. So for us to buy a full term new Wawa Sheetz to QuickTrip would be very rare.

And then just a quick question on drugstores with Rite Aid and Walgreens closing stores, and I know you were very aggressive in reducing your Walgreens exposure in recent years. But do you have thoughts on where this market share gets reallocated.

Great question. The work gets reallocated. The front end of the stores have been reallocated to C-stores, the front end the pharmacies, chips, drinks, right? Those have candy reallocated to C-stores, the fragrance beauty has been reallocated to the Alphas, the Sephoras plus online of the world while simultaneously that share has exited the first floor of the department stores as we see shrinkage there. Pharmacy generally, I'll tell you has stayed somewhat fairly stable, but the problem is the generic pressure on drugs as well as third-party government reimbursement rates for there. And we haven't seen an online penetration of pharmacy that is material. Now, Costco, Walmart, all of those operators -- also grocery stores operate pharmacy. But the business has never driven EBITDA from the pharmacy. The business is driven from 11,000 square feet at the front-end space. And that front end is under pressure, as I mentioned, I think, on our last call, I go to the pharmacy, absent picking up a script three times year. The Valentine's Day, my wife's birthday and my anniversary, and I stand there and get a $9 greeting card and I can't believe it's $9. If you're going to run in for any convenience items, you're going to a convenience store. It's faster. They have more checkout lanes and it's cheaper. When I need new toothpaste, I hit order again on Amazon, it shows up cheaper, the next day for free. So you see the disintermediation across the aisles as you walk around the pharmacy. It's not going to one specific competitor. It's being disintermediated by multiple different retail sectors plus Amazon. And so there is -- there's no turning back from this, right? There is no merchandising strategy that takes the pharmacy front end, and makes it successful that would…

Very helpful. Thank you.

All right. So there are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Ruben for closing comments.

All right. Thank you very much. Great job, Susan. I hope everybody enjoys the rest of the summer. We look forward to seeing you soon. Thank you.