Michael S. Burke
Management
Sure. Let me take that question twofold. First of all, from a broader company-wide perspective, when do we expect to see these record wins translate to NSR growth, we're cautiously optimistic on our growth due to the improving record wins and backlog. And I think there's a couple of ways to look at it. First of all, carve out the MSS segment, as we know, our organic revenue has declined in the MSS segment because we have strategically repositioned that business away from the high-volume, lower-margin work and positioned it into newer, lower-volume, higher-margin work, which has improved our profitability, and I think you see that clearly in our numbers. So when I look at the PTS segment, the PTS segment is flat this quarter. That's the first quarter in a while that the PTS segment has been flat. We have been slightly down for several quarters in a row now. So first of all, we see a flat quarter on the PTS side. The Americas piece of that is the first quarter in a while where we have a positive book-to-burn ratio. And so we see, in the wins, anyway, we see an inflection point this quarter in the U.S. PTS design business. So that is encouraging. The other challenged market that we have is Australia. I was in Australia last week, and that market feels, to us, like it has hit the bottom and the opportunities that are in front of us right now look better and brighter than they have in the past 18 months. So those are the 2 challenged markets. And, of course, the remaining markets of China, Europe, Middle East and Africa, as you heard us say in the prepared comments, are also been growing nicely for the past year. So we're cautiously optimistic that this organic growth comes back sooner rather than later. I can't tell you exactly the quarter that, that comes about, but we're cautiously optimistic it will be sooner rather than later.