Philip G. Heasley
Analyst · Craig-Hallum.
What we are finding out, and this is true around the world, not just in the U.S., is that we've been saying for a long time that in order to really have a highly functional mobile strategy, that they should really be funneling their mobile and through their online and not having their mobile side-by-side with their online. What's happening with a lot of our customers, and we mentioned one of them in my notes to you, was that those who I would kind of thought that -- territories in the bank and all that other kind of stuff, where they were building them side-by-side, their ability to manage the fraud and their ability to kind of manage innovation and whatnot was -- they weren't able to kind of keep up with a very, very fast-changing world. Now what a lot of them are doing is they're backing up and they're building their mobile through their online, right, so that it's the same level of service. The retailers are stuck with exactly this same conundrum in terms of the retailers need your shopping experience by phone, in person, online and mobile to be the same. And the fraudsters were being -- were beginning to figure out, you read the newspapers, that you buy it one way, you pick up another way and/or you defraud the company through the 2 different channels and whatnot. And ReD, we owned -- there's a very great technology that came out of Brown University called PRISM. And we had half of that technology, and ReD had the other half of that technology. And bringing that technology together was symbiotic. One-on-one was more than 2 in terms of that. So one of the reasons we want ReD was we wanted to bring the same technology together versus disparate technology. And they have done a lot of smart things with the technology on the retail side and not that much on the financial services side. We had done a lot of smart things on the bank side, and we hadn't done as much smart stuff on the retail side and, certainly, the card-not-present side. And the combination of the 2 really makes a powerful offering and -- in a lot of markets both ways, right? ReD has built a pretty good -- is in the process of building a good consortium business on the retailers' side and in some markets, combined retailer bank side. So that's a complex -- that's a powerful piece of our business. There's not a lot of ReD results in these numbers yet, but ReD has a very good pipeline and it has very good symbiosis for what we're doing in our PRM. And very quickly, we're not going to be able to tell the difference. Just like I said, they're even the same technology.