Yes, let me answer it another way, too. We clearly, the combination of the 2 onlines are clearly creating this opportunity, which was the main reason we bought S1. And we're very happy with that. That's one point. Point number two is that we don't sell perpetual licenses, we sell subscription. So every quarter, I'm going to tell you that on an apples-to-apples basis, what they called revenue and what we called revenue is not the same thing. But it's the backlog-to-backlog basis that is the relevant -- maybe we're nuts not to take our revenue all up front, but we're in this for the long haul. The other one that I would think would be extremely obvious to everybody is that we're 5x or 6x their size on the payments side and their only growth was coming from our attrition rates sitting at 3% or 4%. And now our attrition rates are sitting at 3%. So if our attrition rate -- if we have improved 1% in attrition and we were 5x their size, that meant that what was 5% to their growth is sitting in less attrition on our side. Quite honestly, guys, you can beat me up forever on keeping good business and not having to resell it, right, than to say well, where is the apples-to-apples? So it's not perpetual, right? I'd rather have it in reduced attrition than going out and reselling what we have there and whatnot. And it's been very -- S1, it's never easy to put something that size and that global together and whatnot. Our guys have worked really, really hard and that has also been really, really good. If you think of it in its totality, not just one line achieved, it's coming into backlog, that means the revenue is going to come. Gee, if it's coming from reduced attrition instead of them, rather, disintermediating ourselves, we feel pretty good about that, too.
Wayne Johnson - Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division: Okay, great. I appreciate that. So good color on quality of revenues here. And just to take that one step further, the organic revenue growth, kind of low- to mid-single digits, as we're now in November and we're looking into next year and I know that I'm going to see you guys next week and everyone is going to hear about what you have to say at that time. But just to give kind of a broad range, low- to mid-single digits, how should we -- in revenue growth for this year, how should we think about next year?