Good morning. Welcome to Albertsons Companies Third Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call, and thank you for standing by. [Operator Instructions] Please note this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn -- hand the call over to Melissa Plaisance, GVP, Treasury and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Good morning, and thank you for joining us for the Albertsons Companies Third Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. With me today from the company are Vivek Sankaran, our President and CEO; and Bob Dimond, our CFO. Today, Vivek will share insight into our third quarter results and recent progress against our strategic priorities. Bob will then provide the financial details of our third quarter and share our full year outlook before handing it back over to Vivek for some closing remarks. After management comments, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. I would like to remind you that management may make statements during this call that include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Forward-looking statements are not limited to historical facts but contain information about future operating or financial performance. Forward-looking statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or events to be materially different from those anticipated. These risks and uncertainties include those related to the COVID-19 pandemic. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements are and will be contained from time to time in our SEC filings, including Form 10-Q, 10-K, 8-K and our prospectus dated June 25, 2020. Any forward-looking statements we make today are only as of today's date, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any such statements as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Please keep in mind that included in the financial statements and management's prepared remarks are certain non-GAAP measures. And the historical financial information includes a reconciliation of net income to adjusted net income and adjusted EBITDA. And with that, I will hand the call over to Vivek.

Thank you, Melissa, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. At Albertsons, we continue to be focused on taking care of our customers, our associates and the communities we serve. As a result of this, I am pleased to report another quarter of robust results. Our Q3 identical sales came in at 12.3% with adjusted EPS growth of 275% versus the prior year to $0.66 per share. Adjusted EBITDA increased 53% to $968 million with robust flow-through. Our digital sales also grew 225% year-over-year. During the quarter, we continued to gain significant market share within both food and MULO in both dollars and units and experienced strong growth across geographies regardless of the level of COVID restrictions in place. This gives us confidence in the sustainability of our competitiveness in the future. We had over 6 million new households shopping with us this quarter, and we are retaining existing customers. Those who shopped with us last quarter have returned this quarter at a higher rate than in Q2. Customers continue to consolidate trips, and we continue to see fewer trips per household but larger baskets. And these households are spending more with us compared to last year. Our loyalty program continues to show strong growth. We now have 24.3 million registered users, an increase of 23.5% year-over-year, and these customers are spending 2.5x more on average than nonregistered customers. In addition, actively engaged households in our loyalty programs have increased 17.5% year-over-year and encompass nearly 40% of transactions and 50% of sales. These customers spend 4.1x more than nonactive customers. The strong ID sales and EBITDA results year-to-date are also generating robust free cash flow, and we are delivering on our capital allocation priorities. We are continuing to reinvest in the business for growth in high-return…

Thanks, Vivek, and hello, everyone. I am pleased to provide details on our strong third quarter results. Total sales were $15.4 billion during the third quarter compared to $14.1 billion during the third quarter last year. This increase in sales was primarily driven by our 12.3% increase in identical sales, partially offset by lower fuel sales. Our gross profit margin increased to 29.3% compared to 28.3% in Q3 last year. Excluding the impact of fuel, our gross profit margin increased 25 basis points. The increase in gross profit margin was primarily driven by continued improvements in shrink expense and sales leverage on advertising and supply chain costs, partially offset by expenses related to driving growth in digital and Select investments in price, which supported top line and overall market share gains. Turning to sales and administrative expenses, we saw significant sales leverage and cost control throughout the third quarter, excluding the $286 million charge associated with the previously announced national pension fund settlement. Overall, the improved sales leverage, including strong cost control, more than offset incremental COVID-19-related costs totaling approximately $105 million, excluding the $45 million in discretionary appreciation bonuses during the third quarter. We continue to seek efficiencies around procedures and procurement of PPE and cleaning supplies to further optimize these costs as we go forward. Interest expense was $115.9 million during the third quarter of fiscal 2020 compared to $154.8 million during the same quarter last year. This $38.9 million decrease in interest expense is primarily attributable to lower average interest rates and outstanding borrowings compared to last year. The weighted average interest rate decreased 80 basis points to 5.5% compared to Q3 last year, which is a testament to some of the recent refinancings we've completed at very attractive long-term borrowing rates. Adjusted EBITDA was $968 million…

Thank you, Bob. As we enter the new calendar year, we are in the throes of the third wave of the pandemic. Our hearts go out to the many who have been impacted by the disease. The promise of the vaccine is exciting, and we will do our part to dispense the vaccine and help the communities in which we operate, yet we realize this is no time to relax. We remain relentlessly focused on the safety of our associates and our customers. Despite the uncertainty we still have around the recovery from the pandemic, we see evidence that consumers will not revert to pre-COVID food consumption patterns anytime soon. For instance, several large companies are extending work-from-home policies, and some are committing to flexible workweeks or permanent work-from-home plans going forward. We believe that this will continue to drive more breakfast and lunches at home. For example, during the pandemic, we've seen large increases in sales of breakfast items such as cereal, eggs and bacon, as people are eating a full breakfast at home rather than grabbing breakfast on the go. In addition, sales of items such as sandwich cheese and convenience salads have increased as well as lunches are largely consumed at home. Many consumers have also rediscovered their passion for cooking. We anticipate the consumption patterns we're seeing now will continue well into 2021 and should continue to favor us. As I mentioned in our last earnings call, we are a significantly stronger company coming out of the pandemic than we were going into it, yet we are only in the early innings of our transformation. We have so much more performance headroom and the wherewithal to invest behind it. I believe that we will sustain our share gains and improve customer growth and stickiness going forward…

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Edward Kelly with Wells Fargo.

I wanted to start just on the IDs. And I was hoping that you'd provide a bit more color around the cadence of the IDs through the quarter, particularly given that some restrictions around dining out and that type of stuff began to accelerate. And then could you comment on what you're seeing so far in Q4? And geographically, maybe just provide a bit more color around what you're seeing given that some of your markets have much more tighter restrictions.

Yes. Ed, it's Vivek here. Let me give you a couple of perspectives. First, what was surprising this quarter is that you -- we saw pretty similar IDs across the quarter, okay, and a little more of a lift around Thanksgiving, which you would expect. And I think a lot more people stayed at home at Thanksgiving. So we saw that, and so that's good. And then when we think about this quarter, we're still in the low double-digit number as we look at the last few weeks of the quarter. So we feel good about that trend, which is why it gives me some confidence that I ask myself, if you'll think of the next 6 to 9 months in 2021, is it going to look more like the last 6 months? Or is it going to look more like 2019? And my bias is it's going to look like more like the last 6 months and the pattern that we have seen there. Ed, what is the second part of your question?

Well, geographically and whether things are very different.

Yes. I've said this before. I look very hard at whether we see patterns with any particular market where the crisis is worse or better and if the sales change. What I see in our marketplace across everything in aggregate is that it seems to go up and down more with the national sentiment than anything that's happening in a particular market. And we see that again and again and again. And as I mentioned earlier, we are seeing that where COVID is not that -- or at least less severe, let me put it -- it's bad everywhere -- less severe, we still see pretty strong sales.

Okay. And then just a follow-up on the gross margin. Just kind of curious how holiday went from a promotional standpoint, how we should be thinking about the gross margin in the fourth quarter related to that. And then as we look out into next year, how would you encourage us to think about the gross margin? Obviously, you've given some color on how to think about EBITDA, but just curious given what you're going to be lapping on that line item.

Yes. Let me provide you a point of view on promotions, Ed, because some others might have the same question. And then, Bob, I'll let you take the gross margin question, right? So if you look at the industry overall, promotions have stepped up from Q1 to Q2 to Q3, at least our Q1, 2, 3, so since the start of the pandemic, but it's still not at the '19 levels. I think what we -- at least our priority is to be smarter about it, not quantity but quality of promotions going forward. And we've got the tools and capabilities to do that. And the second theme you're going to see from us is more personalized promotions. We've got a great vehicle to do that. We've got a lot of customers registered to do that, and we're going to put more and more energy towards that, so that it's high-quality targeted promotions. Bob, can you comment on the gross margins?

Sure. Ed, we have not given definitive guidance yet for next year. But generally, what we would say on gross margins is we'll look at the prior year gross margin and wouldn't look to be building gross margin materially year-over-year. And we do generate some tailwinds in our gross margin. Some of that's driven by continued margin mix improvements that favor us. But what we try to do is to reinvest some of that back into the top line so that we drive our bottom line as well. But hopefully, that gives you a sense for what -- when we break it out a little bit further, the next quarter that it will be probably relatively flat to this year.

Our next question comes from the line of Rupesh Parikh with Oppenheimer.

This is actually Erica Eiler on for Rupesh. So I guess I wanted to start off talking about your market share. And it doesn't sound like this is the case, but as you look at your recent share gains, are you seeing any differences in where your share gains are coming from this quarter versus prior quarter? It sounded like it was pretty consistent to me, but I just want to confirm that. And then if we think about moving beyond the pandemic and into a post-COVID world, as you look at the share gains in recent quarters, where does your team believe you could see more permanent gains postpandemic from a category perspective?

Yes. So the market share gains, the way we track it is we track dollars and units, and we compare it to food retailers and MULO, which includes the whole universe. And the consistent story throughout the last -- since the pandemic has been that we are gaining both dollar share and unit share. We're gaining it both versus food and versus the overall channel MULO, which includes everybody outside of typical food grocery retailers. And the share gains are higher versus MULO, right? So that pattern has continued. And if you look at where we're gaining share, the share gains are higher in some of those fresh categories that I talked about earlier. And my sense is people have gotten used to -- if people stay at home and cook at home, which I believe they will, I just think this -- some of this behavior is going to stick, and remote work is going to stick. And so as that happens, you'll end up with people spending more on fresh, and we have an advantage there. So I suspect we will continue to gain share on those categories.

Okay. That's helpful. And then you mentioned your expectations for people cooking at home more. And so with the robust comp growth you've seen so far this fiscal year, can you talk about how you're thinking about lapping the more difficult comparisons in fiscal '21 at this point? Just some of the puts and takes there maybe that you haven't necessarily touched on previously.

Yes. So first of all, I think you're right. We are all -- we love positive comps, right? So looking at any -- next year is not -- it's going to be -- it won't be positive comps, but we will -- so we're going to think about a 2-year stack, and we'll talk to you about a 2-year stack. That's how we're thinking about modeling next year's business. And we -- at the end of the day, a lot of things we're doing are about driving growth. So if you think about it from pure dollars, our intent would be to drive growth versus -- and on a 2-year stack for it to be healthier than what would have been prepandemic levels. That's how we're thinking about that. And I think a lot of the initiatives, our continued investment in fresh, that continued expansion of eCommerce and you're seeing it, right? And you're seeing the -- and we know it's incremental. Our continued expansion into meals, all of those are things that will continue to drive growth. And we're even putting money, as we speak, and I'd shared with you the investments we made in eCommerce that are part of the OpEx and CapEx that you're still seeing from us. But we're also putting energy and money into retaining customers, right? So we're doing a lot of things to ensure the growth next year.

Our next question comes from the line of Ken Goldman with JPMorgan.

Vivek, you've -- wanted to circle back a little bit toward pricing. You said in the past, I think pretty strongly, that you don't have much desire to accept and pass on manufacturers' price increases right now. But since you last reported, corn, wheat, freight, a number of other inputs have spiked. Last week, Conagra highlighted accelerating inflation as soon as the current quarter. So I'm just curious if you're still as sort of adamant about pushing back on vendor price hikes. Because it seems to me like now is the best time in decades to push through some of these higher prices. You may never get this kind of inelastic consumer demand again. So I just wanted to get your updated thoughts on that, please.

Yes, Ken. Yes, my philosophy will always be to push back on it, right? I think we should be doing what's right for the customer, and we will always have the philosophy of pushing back on it. That said, we're always managing a basket too, right? So if you look at price per volume and you look at the market, the price per volume in the market has gone up a little bit. It's not as high as it was in Q1, Q2, by the way. So it has come down from Q1, Q2, Q3 overall in the market, and we've done a little better than that. So we have -- or the average. So we don't -- we will push through inflation when it comes through, no question about it. But on the other hand, there's a healthy tension we will maintain with our suppliers and make sure that everything is truly justified.

And then for my follow-up, San Francisco and L.A. have proposed mandated $5 hero pay for grocery workers. I don't think either of these have been formally adopted yet, but if they do get approved and if more California counties do take this on, how do you plan on sort of adopting this or pushing back in any way? $5 is obviously a lot more than what many companies are paying right now per hour in addition to typical wages.

Yes. Ken, it is -- in certain pockets, certain counties have put such a proposal on the table. And it is more towards grocery, not nongrocers and so on. So it's not clean by any means, right? And obviously, we wouldn't agree with a philosophy like that. So we're working through it. We're -- if it came down to it, there's many ways to manage it. I'll give you a perspective. A large part of our retail workforce is part-time labor, okay? So we've got many ways to manage cost improvements, not just from that -- cost increase, not just from that kind of a proposal, but overall wage management. So we've got many levers to do it, and we'll continue to do it. But that's a very small pocket, Ken, just to be clear, that we are hearing that.

Our next question comes from the line of Robbie Ohmes with Bank of America.

Congrats on another great quarter.

Thank you, Robbie.

Vivek, I was hoping you could talk first a little more about digital. Could you give us some color on where you think digital penetration is going to end up for the year as a percent of sales? And then within that, how big is delivery as a percent of digital versus DUG? And then maybe you could comment on you guys moving over to DoorDash and the strategy on delivery.

Yes. So let me start with that -- the last one, Robbie. We -- in our press release, when we did that, we didn't say that we are stopping delivery and going to DoorDash. That was picked up -- it was interpreted that way by some news, and that picked up some steam. So here's the bottom line on that. There are markets where we believe delivery works, and there are markets where we don't believe delivery -- our first-party delivery works the way we've designed it. And we think there are other options that we should continue to explore. And I -- you should be ready that you'll always hear news from us that are trying different things. It's a locker in Chicago, right? So there are always different means and mechanisms that we're going to get things to the customer. So that's there. Now from an eCommerce mix standpoint, the fastest-growing piece for us is DUG. And if you do the math, you'll see that the rate of growth is faster than the rate of expansion, right, of our DUG centers. So we know that the customers is sticky. They like DUG in our markets, and so we're going to continue to double down on that. And that is soon becoming the -- a bigger portion than our own delivery of the business. And from a mix standpoint, I've told you before, we are a notch lower than others, and we have some catch-up to do. But that's where we are. We are accelerating it. As we roll out DUG and start getting more and more customers into the franchise, which, by the way, when they come into the franchise, they spend a lot more with us. We'll get to market levels. But we are a notch below that.

That's helpful. And then maybe my follow-up, and maybe this will end up being more for Bob, but can we get a little color -- more color on what the digital impact was on gross margin in the quarter? You had that 75 basis point fuel benefit. Any help on what kind of drag that was? And then when we look to next year, how should we think about some of the fuel benefit margins and what kind of pressures you could see if that goes the other direction.

Bob, can you take that, please?

Yes. Let me give you a little color there. So you're right. Ex fuel, our margins were up 25 basis points, as we indicated in our earnings release. So when you kind of break that apart into kind of 2 big pieces, we -- between the improvements in shrink and the sale leverage on advertising and supply chain costs, that comes to roughly a 70 basis point improvement. So that was offset by expenses, including digital and Select price investments by roughly the difference, that 45 basis points. I don't have a solid breakout between those, but maybe roughly 50-50.

That's very helpful. And just any thoughts on fuel outlook for next year in terms of impact on gross margin?

Yes. As you know, fuel can be a tricky one to try to estimate. This year has certainly been a boon to everyone. I mean, on one hand, volumes are way down. But then on the flip side, the margins are a little higher. We would expect next year that the volumes will probably start returning a little bit as some people start going back to work. But at the same time, we're anticipating that some of the peaks of the spikes in gross margin and fuel might kind of moderate just a little bit.

Our next question comes from the line of John Heinbockel with Guggenheim Partners.

Vivek, I want to start with behavior of new customers, right? You said 6 million new households for the quarter. I don't know how many for the year. But what percent of those are registered loyalty members roughly and what percent active members? And then how is their spend ramping as new customers? How is that ramping relative to the legacy base?

Yes. So John, there you go. So the 6 million came in, right? And so about -- of the 6 million, about 900,000, say, 1 million or so registered on our just for U, which is great because they come in, they like the program. And in some markets, like on the East Coast, where we have not had card for price, we've just introduced just for U, and bang, it starts to -- it picks up. I think there's -- the customers, because they're shopping more in a store, spending more on grocery, just see more value in those rewards. So that part of it is working. And when they engage, they start spending a lot more. I mean our most loyal customers are 4x more or think, they could spend $20,000 a year with us at the top tier. And then we break it into different tiers. And then the third tier, just as an added side note, right, where -- we call them -- they're occasional. We -- they're but -- loyal but occasional. When they engage in eCommerce, they spend 3x with us. That jumps 3x. So that's why we find this nice ecosystem of eCommerce and the loyalty program starting to work together.

And then maybe secondly, you guys talked about the 20% flow-through, right, on sort of an incremental comp. Maybe talk about how that works on a comp decline, right, compared to that 20%, assuming sort of a normal gross margin environment. And are there tweaks, right, you can make on labor and so forth to maybe to keep it to around 20%?

Yes. So John, it's not a linear curve, right? So there is a certain step change above which you get a lot of flow-through. So as an example, we are not adding store directors. We're not adding department managers, et cetera. So that -- there's a part of it that's very fixed. And so as -- there's the volume threshold next year, I suspect, will be above that, that minimum threshold. Then let's talk about the part that's variable. It's primarily things like labor, right? And the labor in a store, we can manage hours. There's a lot of part-time labor in our stores, so we can manage hours. And we've got a lot of initiatives that are aimed at reducing hours, making the hours more productive. And that's happening -- that was pre-COVID, and it's continuing through COVID, and they're working well, John. That's the nice thing. You saw some -- we had good shrink numbers, better shrink numbers, right? And Bob talks about it in the gross margin. We've rolled out tools that are production management tools, production scheduling tools. That optimizes labor while it also helps shrink because they're producing the right quantities. So those are types of things we're doing to also reduce it and keep that kind of flow-through.

Our next question comes from the line of Paul Trussell with Deutsche Bank.

This is Krisztina Katai on for Paul. I wanted to ask about digital grocery economics. You did mention that you saw a reduction in picking costs that was driven by technology. So is there anything additional that you can provide on profitability of the channel? And secondly, how do you expect it to trend once DUG becomes a larger portion of that eCommerce buy?

Yes. Actually, we're more excited when DUG becomes a larger portion of our eCommerce portfolio. So think of it this way. Let me give you a sense for how we think about the math of the eCommerce business. First, if you were to take all eCommerce transactions, the entire eCommerce team, put it all together in the P&L, our own eCommerce business, which is our own pickup, delivery and all of that is a breakeven business, okay? But I want you to think about that. It's a breakeven business at a time where stock-outs are higher than normal. Callouts on -- our callouts, labor callouts, so if somebody gets sick and can't come, those things are higher than normal, okay? The demand patterns are more variable than normal. So it's a breakeven business in that -- and we're investing to make sure that it's a high-quality experience. So in that -- and then in that same P&L, we've got initiatives that are reducing -- or improving picking efficiency. We've got the MFC coming. So we feel excited about it, about the core business itself. And the DUG is the more profitable side of it, and that's growing faster. So we're good. Take a different lens, take a customer lens to it. And on a customer lens, it's even more exciting because, as I said earlier to John, some of our less engaged customers, when they pick up eCommerce, spend more with us. I know it's coming from somewhere else. It's leveraging the same store, same -- and our eCommerce is store-based. It's leveraging all of the same assets. So in essence, there's more marginal profit from that with a lot of upside on improving profitability as we think about it.

Got it. That's really helpful. And secondly, I just wanted to touch on fresh. I mean you talked about fresh being a differentiator for Albertsons, and it is driving the market share gain. So to what degree do you think it sets you apart from your competition? And perhaps what are some of the areas and categories where you can improve your offering or service levels?

We're always going to continue to improve our offering and service levels, right? I mean we're never going to be satisfied by that. So as an example, we think that our meals programs, rolling that out will be a big upside. And we've seen that work where we've rolled it out, and we're continuing to expand that. So it is not just ingredients but having solutions for you, so that you may not feel like cooking at home tonight and you have a great -- still have a great meal that feels like it was cooked at home, right? So that kind of thing, we'll continue to improve. Some of the reason we have our fresh advantage is we invest in the labor in the store. So we have butchers in our store, right? We have bakers in our store. You can get a cake baked the way you want it. You can get a piece of steak cut the way you want it. You miss it at a restaurant, you get it in our store. So there's a level of investment in labor. There's a level of investment in the choices we make on our product. And those things under normal times, it would have been a marginal advantage. Under times like this, when people are eating a lot more at home, is a bigger advantage.

Great. Congrats on a great quarter.

Thank you so much.

Our next question comes from the line of Paul Lejuez with Citi.

This is Brandon Cheatham. I'm on for Paul. I was just wondering if you could talk a little bit about some of the technology improvements that you're investing in. I think last time you mentioned the on-demand planning system was in 800 stores. So I was just wondering how that rollout is going, if you're seeing any margin improvement in stores that have that versus stores that don't and if that contributed to the better shrink this quarter.

Yes, Brandon, the -- about 30% of our capital goes towards technology, right? And so let me just parse that out a little bit for you. A good bit of it goes towards improving our infrastructure. So migrating to the cloud, making sure that our systems can ramp up very quickly. It was fantastic to -- our eCommerce business is on the cloud. And when we did that, we saw very little disruption even when we saw the spikes and such. So that's part of our -- it gives us better data, consolidated data. That's one part of the expense. We'll drive that for the next couple of years, and we'll have most of that done. The other part of it is going to improving growth, which is applications, customer-facing applications that we're doing. It could be around like the automated lockers you're seeing, et cetera. So there's types of things that we're doing to drive growth. And then there's a bunch going towards productivity. It's in-store productivity, it's DC productivity. And in-store, the particular things you asked about are ordering systems, rolling it out, it's been fantastic. I always -- my test is going into a store and asking the people in the store how the system is helping them with dairy or frozen. And when they say it's great, it really is great. Otherwise, they don't use it. And yes, we are seeing improvements. Production systems that we're putting into all our fresh, where we cut our fruit and make the cakes and everything else, all of that is helping. That's why you're seeing both labor benefits, shrink benefits. And like all of these things, you also see sales benefits because you're better in stock.

Understood. And on the like Own Brands, are you facing headwinds with stock-outs? Has that kind of gotten easier as we've gotten through the pandemic?

Better and better. So our Own Brands penetration in the last 4 weeks of the quarter crossed 25%. So remember, we were 25.4% when we finished 2019, and then it had dropped. It had dropped about 1.5 points, and it's come right back to 25%. So we feel good about coming up in stock. And then the other thing that the team is doing very nicely is filling in gaps. So now we're saying we want to be more in -- we're getting into the value packs and so on. So we're getting into -- filling in gaps so that -- or filling in -- identifying new needs that the customer cares about today.

Got it. So it sounds like Own Brands kind of has accelerated through the year, and now you're back to where you were.

Yes. I think the Own Brands was a -- there's 2 things in Own Brands you should know. One is a supply challenge. And the second thing is if you have a shelf of, let's say, 5 national brands and an Own Brand, in a normal course of business, the 2 national brands were sold a lot and the Own Brands that have sold a lot. When you clean up the whole shelf, by definition, your mix comes down.

Our next question comes from the line of Robert Moskow with Credit Suisse.

Vivek, you talked a lot about improving the selection of ready-to-eat, ready-to-heat offerings. You've also talked about we're moving the salad bar in place of refrigerated space. And I was thinking about that this is probably one of the bigger merchandising changes that you're doing in your store in response to COVID and the consumer need for more simple meals that they can just pick up and replicate prepared at home, prepared at scratch -- prepared by scratch. So -- but I'm having trouble figuring out exactly how widespread it is across your chain, how many of your subchains are doing this. Is there any way to quantify all of this and give us a sense of how significant of a merchandising shift it is in terms of more convenient meal solutions?

Yes. So let me describe the merchandising, Robert. First, it is -- think of it as a few refrigerated units around the deli counter of a store, deli area of a store, all right? And the size of that those refrigerated units vary depending on the size of the store. So from a grand -- from a merchandising standpoint, it's very focused and targeted. We think of these as modules, and it's doable. So it's not -- we don't have to considerably remodel the store. We're not thinking -- don't think restaurants or anything like that. Now the bigger challenge is how to make sure that the production is done right and at a high quality, what is the right architecture, what can be produced in the store, has to be produced outside the store, and that varies market by market. And that's what we're working through and deploying. It is not at any scale that we would be proud of, but that's the direction we're going. We have it in 3 markets right now. And in one market, it's expanding fast. In a couple of other markets, we are in experimental stage. But that's going to be a big emphasis. As we think about the next 2 to 3 years, we think there's a substantial amount of growth here.

What about salad bars? Are those still in the vast majority of your stores? Or are they slowly coming out?

Yes, they are. But look, they're not -- in many areas, they're not operational because it's just not safe. In some areas, they are. But what you should know about salad bars is they don't always give you the greatest return in all markets. There are going to be places where it matters a lot, where you're near an office complex, and you're going to have a lot of lunch business, and a salad bar works very well. There are other markets where it doesn't. And you always wondered about what is the alternative to it. Now we have one.

Our next question comes from the line of Scott Mushkin with R5 Capital.

So I wanted to ask, obviously, this year has been just tremendous kind of a windfall. And how do you guys think of accelerating some of your gross initiatives to, I guess, accelerate share gains and also enhance the customer experience? Obviously, the customer is changing quite a bit on what their expectations are. So I was wondering if you could talk about how do you accelerate share gains and what you can do with the customer experience.

Yes, Scott, the -- so number one, first, hi. Second, the share gain focus for us is -- continues to be around eCommerce, all right, and then continuing to anchor it on fresh. Those are the 2 areas that we're putting more and more of our energy into. On eCommerce, it's about the expansion of DUG. It's continuing to invest into the front-end experience the customer has on the apps and such. I'll give you an example. The -- we've been -- talked about Drive Up & Go. Well, there are markets where the parking lot is really small, and you can't really set aside parking spots for it. But people are living in tall buildings around you. So we have a locker there or a service where somebody can come in, pick up 2 bags and leave. And so we are trying to find different ways to serve that customer and improve her experience while she shops. When you get to the fresh, I can't say enough, it's about things that we're already doing but also improving -- providing these meal solutions and such so that we can continue to give customers ease, ease and convenience yet not having to compromise the quality of what they get in our stores, right, for a meal at home. Those are the types of things that we're doing and then running great stores every day, Scott. There's no substitute for that. Everything we are doing is about getting better everyday execution in our stores. And hopefully, you see that.

So as a follow-up, is it possible to accelerate CapEx into productivity enhancing on the eComm? I know you guys are experimenting obviously with micro fulfillment. But is there an opportunity to accelerate that investment? Any comments you guys have on some of the Amazon stores that have been opened up against you? And then I'll yield.

Yes. The capital about -- Scott, about expanding, if I'd stay with MFCs for a second, we're going to have 7 next year. And what we're trying to do is to figure out what might be different archetypes that we can use across the markets. We have one archetype now, which is connected to a store and such. We are exploring with different archetypes of an MFC, which we'll do in 2021. And then I think we'll be able to start expanding it more rapidly. So that's from an MFC standpoint. On capital that we deploy in stores such as capital to improve ordering systems or capital to improve customer experiences such as the self-checkouts and those types of things, we're experimenting there, too. It typically doesn't end up being this rate at which you can deploy capital. It ends up being the rate at which you can manage change. And so that -- so what you don't want to do is to deploy these systems and get orders wrong or deploy the systems and have a lousy experience for the customer. That's usually more of the governor when you think of that.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our time allowed for questions. I'll turn the floor back to Ms. Plaisance for any final comments.

I apologize, but we ran out of time here. There are several people that we didn't get to, but we, Cody and I, will be available for the balance of the day. And we look forward to speaking with all of you. Thank you for participating, and have a great day.

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