Paul Elenio
Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Sure. Hey, Jade, it’s Paul. So, we’re sitting right now, as you can see, with $325 million of cash and liquidity. I think one of the things that was in my commentary that’s very important to note is that, during this lengthy dislocation, we made a strategic decision to delever the business due to the uncertainty. We delevered business 30% in the peak of the market prior to the dislocation occurring. We were 4.0 to 1 levered and humming along. We’re now 2.8 levered and we’ve been at that level for a few quarters now. With Ivan’s commentary of what we’re seeing in the securitization market and with the banks being so engaged and so constructive lately, evident by the J.P. Morgan line we just put in place, which was obviously an extremely good deal for us, we’re seeing the opportunity now where leverage -- we can enhance our leverage and grow our liquidity. So, we expect to be able to, over the next six months to nine months, 12 months, to totally, fully take advantage of, one, the securitization market, and two, the constructiveness of the banks and the liquidity that’s out there in the banking system to increase our leverage and grow our liquidity. Secondly, as Ivan mentioned, a run-off is a big part of where our liquidity will go and we toggle it based on our origination objectives and what our run-off does. We did have $400 million of run-off in Q1. It was a little light given where interest rates were for the last three months or four months. Interest rates have backed off a little bit recently, as we said, and we did get about $200 million of run-off in April. So, it could -- run-off could go anywhere from $1.5 billion to $3 billion, depending on where interest rates go, and that’s also a source of liquidity. And then the last piece that I wanted to mention is the debt markets are very, very open and active. As you know, we’ve been a serial issuer of debt through the unsecured debt market, through the preferreds and all those types of instruments, through the converts. Term Loan B, high yield debt, convert market, it’s all pretty open right now. So, we will continue to do what we do, be good stewards of capital and if we see good growth opportunities, and we think there’s good origination opportunities, and the run-off is slowing, we will continue to access those markets as well. So, that’s kind of the three pegs of the stool that drive our liquidity and why we feel comfortable we’ll have adequate liquidity.