Ivan Kaufman
Analyst · KBW.
Well, I think you really have to focus on our asset class, which is a multifamily asset class and the fact that that is going to be probably the most desired asset class in the market. I think people are going to continue to invest and it is our prediction that you can actually see CapEx compression in the multifamily asset class, which you can't invest in retail. You can invest in hospitality, you very suspect in office, and therefore people are going to continue in this asset class and it's going to be very viable on the one hand. On the other hand, when looking at our portfolio and it speaks to our dividend and speaks to our core earnings, what we're seeing is very, very few requests for forbearance. And keep in mind, forbearance is just a deferral of your payment. Okay that's all it is and since most of the multifamily borrows treasure or access to the agency platform, they cannot pay their forbearance and that's why they're actually paying, because if you don't pay forbearance back or if you default, then you're no longer a viable bar in the multifamily market. So, they have resources and if they have to, I believe they will support that. So, it speaks to where our earnings are. We don't have a lot of non-multifamily assets, and I would be concerned, and it doesn't really impact us when you have a potential deterioration of asset value and when you have a substantial amount of loans, put it on paying accrue. We haven't had a single paying accrual loan. So, getting back to our core earnings and not dividend, we have multifamily assets that performing in an outstanding manner, based on the core foundation, I think they'll continue to perform and therefore as they perform, they'll continue to contribute towards our earnings. In addition, the agency access is the viable liquidity in the market. We've indicated we've had a great first quarter. We've told where we think the second quarter is going to go. Our pipeline is strong, it's vibrant, it's growing. So we're very, very comfortable with what we spoken about today, which is I mentioned in my comments, it puts us in a class by ourselves, and that's what really distinguishes us from the traditional mortgage rate because we have an operating platform that produces stable core earnings. And as Paul mentioned in his comments that I have, we have over $90 million of servicing revenue that comes in each and every year, and it's a growing part and it represents a very substantial amount of our core earnings. So that's kind of a summary of how we feel and how the board feels.