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Arbor Realty Trust, Inc. (ABR)

Q3 2014 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 7, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good day ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the third quarter 2014 Arbor Realty Trust earnings conference call. My name is Lisa and I’ll be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question and answer session. If at any time you require operator assistance, please press star followed by zero and we will be happy to assist you. As reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host for today, Mr. Paul Elenio, Chief Financial Officer. Please proceed, sir.

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

Okay, thank you, Lisa. Good morning everyone and welcome to the quarterly earnings call for Arbor Realty Trust. This morning, we will discuss the results for the quarter ended September 30, 2014. With me on the call today is Ivan Kaufman, our President and Chief Executive Officer. Before we begin, I need to inform you that statements made in this earnings call may be deemed forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties, including information about possible or assumed future results of our business, financial condition, liquidity, results of operations, plans and objectives. These statements are based on our beliefs, assumptions and expectations of our future performance, taking into account the information currently available to us. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from Arbor’s expectations in these forward-looking statements are detailed in our SEC reports. Listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of today. Arbor undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after today or the occurrences of unanticipated events. I’ll now turn the call over to Arbor’s President and CEO, Ivan Kaufman.

Ivan Kaufman

President and CEO

Thank you, Paul, and thanks to everyone for joining us on today’s call. As you can see from this morning’s press release, we had another strong quarter. Before Paul takes you through the financial results, I would like to update you on the significant progress we continue to make in executing our business strategy and focus on our outlook for the remainder of 2014 and 2015. We had several significant accomplishments in the third quarter which contributed greatly to helping us achieve many 2014 key objectives we established to both generate solid results for the 2014 year and produce substantial earnings growth in 2015 and beyond. We will remain heavily focused on achieving our remaining objectives, the most significant of which are to fully de-lever and replace a number of our non-recourse debt vehicles which results in substantially reduced debt costs and allows us to access significant amounts of capital to redeploy into higher yielding investments, and we’ll also look to contain it to improve the right side of our balance sheet to enhance liability structures. We are confident in our ability to achieve these remaining goals, allowing us to execute our business strategy of significantly increasing our future earnings while insulating us from market volatility and building a strong foundation for substantial future growth and success. The first of our significant third quarter accomplishments was our success in accessing the capital markets to fund our growing pipeline of investment opportunities. We raised approximately $51 million of fresh capital through our second senior unsecured debt instrument for $36 million and by adding a $15 million working capital term loan. We remain very sensitive to dilution and strategic in our approach to capital issuances, given where our stock price is currently trading. We are extremely pleased with our success in this…

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Ivan. As noted in the press release, net income for the third quarter was $63.4 million or $1.26 per share, and FFO was approximately $7.4 million or $0.15 per share without the large non-cash gain on the 450 West 33rd Street transaction during the quarter. As Ivan mentioned, we had a very successful quarter, including recording the $58.1 million GAAP gain related to the 450 West 33rd Street transaction. As we’ve mentioned on many calls, this deferred gain was a significant component of our adjusted book value and the resolution of this item has increased our book value $1.15 to $8.81 per common share at September 30, and significantly narrowed the gap between our book value and adjusted book value of $9.14 per common share, adding back the temporary losses on our swaps. We also recorded $2.9 million in loan loss reserves related to two assets in our portfolio and had $1.5 million in recoveries of previously recorded reserves during the quarter, resulting in a net loan loss reserve of approximately $1.3 million in the third quarter. At September 30, we had approximately $116 million of loan loss reserves, representing approximately 7% of the UPB of our loan portfolio. Looking at the rest of the results for the quarter, the average balance in our core investments increased slightly to approximately $1.68 billion for the third quarter from approximately $1.64 billion for the second quarter due to the third quarter originations outpacing our third quarter runoff. The yield in these core investments increased to 6.99% for the third quarter, up from 6.22% for the second quarter largely due to significantly more accelerated fees from early runoff during the third quarter combined with our third quarter originations having a higher yield than our third quarter runoff. The weighted average all-in…

Operator

Operator

[Operator instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Steve DeLaney with JMP Securities. Steve DeLaney – JMP Securities: Thank you. Good morning ,Ivan and Paul. How are you?

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

Hey Steve, how are you? Steve DeLaney – JMP Securities: Great. So you guys told us early year, you described this as a transitional year. You’ve been candid about that and explaining the challenge with the CDO runoff, but I have to say that the results—if this is a transitional year, the results have been pretty darn good, so congratulations on the scrambling. I know it hasn’t been easy.

Ivan Kaufman

President and CEO

Yeah, we’ve scrambled a lot— Steve DeLaney – JMP Securities: That was a good word, yeah.

Ivan Kaufman

President and CEO

--effectively operate in this environment. Steve DeLaney – JMP Securities: Understood. Just a couple things here. In the originations, which look like they’re—the 240, obviously a big jump from second quarter, and it looks like the second-highest ever. The fab loans that were not bridge loans, I guess about $30 million, should we assume those were mezz loans? And I guess what I’m really interested, are you putting—if they are mezz loans, are any of them mezz loans that you’re putting on behind the senior loan that you wrote?

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

So I’ll answer the first part. Those loans were mezz and PE, and I’ll let Ivan talk about the strategy there.

Ivan Kaufman

President and CEO

Sure. We always do a percentage of mezz and PE. It’s a small part of our business but an important part of our business. One of the unique things that we’ve been able to do is we’ve been able to get actually superior returns in this market for levering senior debt, which is a better risk-adjusted return than lending on mezz and PE, and that’s why it’s such a small part of our book. But the mezz and PE, some are behind some of the loans we’re doing and some are just in the normal course of business. The mezz and PE tend to be a little bit longer dated on yield, but you’ll always see it as a percentage of our book. It probably represents anywhere from 2 to 8% of our book. Steve DeLaney – JMP Securities: And I assume, Ivan, that’s just part of being a relationship lender, right? I mean, you have to sit down with your borrower and figure out how you can partner from meeting the full financing needs of the project.

Ivan Kaufman

President and CEO

That’s correct. It’s just another part of our book and provides another offering. You just can’t be a bridge lender and be in the market. You’ve got to offer a variety of product. Steve DeLaney – JMP Securities: Absolutely. Then the second thing I wanted to ask about, we really are seeing some interesting financings this quarter on these earnings calls, which is good, I think, for the business going forward. But I’m really impressed you were able to get term financing on these legacy CDOs, which is not easy collateral for people to analyze or get comfortable with. I’m just looking at that – I assume that $15 million, when you put that line on, that essentially freed up $15 million of capital that you could deploy elsewhere in your senior lending business, and also I assume it probably helped the ROE on those investments as well. So my question is, I don’t know exactly what the $15 million was as far as an advance rate on the carrying value, but my simple question is, is there room to do any more of this with your legacy CDO book?

Ivan Kaufman

President and CEO

We’re quite pleased with the efforts and responses we’re getting in de-levering our legacy CDOs and being able to leverage some of those on legacy assets, so we think that we’re going to be able to free up a substantial amount of boxed-in or trapped equity, which is going to really significantly impact our ’15 earnings in a positive way, so we’re very optimistic about the ability to do those kind of things.

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

Steve, it’s Paul. To your specific question on the line, we did pledge some of the CDO bonds as collateral. I don’t know how much more we can do of that, but to Ivan’s point, which is we were really pleased with that result, but to Ivan’s point which is more significant, as you know, we have been getting accelerated runoff in these CDO vehicles and we’ll continue to see that more so in the fourth quarter. But what that does for us is clearly when we do replace these vehicles with normal leverage points on those loans, we will be able to extract a significant amount of that trapped equity and trapped cash to put to work, and that will allow us to not have to go to the markets and raise equity for time period here and really be able to grow the book. So we’ve had our challenges, as you know, over the last year and a half accessing capital in the most accretive way, and we’ve been very creative in doing that because we knew this day would come. We knew that we were putting in our time to be very creative and selective in how we raise equity to continue to grow our book to maintain our earnings, but we knew eventually the day would come when we could extract that trapped equity and we would get our share there and not have to worry about dilutive capital at that point. Steve DeLaney – JMP Securities: It sounds like that day, based on Ivan’s comment of hopefully being fully de-levered by March 31 of next year, the horizon is coming in closer to you.

Ivan Kaufman

President and CEO

Yeah, we think—I mean, it’s public information. We think it will be in January. If things go correctly, we think that January will be the time for us to do that. Steve DeLaney – JMP Securities: To do the clean-ups on the legacy CDOs?

Ivan Kaufman

President and CEO

Yeah, a majority of that. Steve DeLaney – JMP Securities: All right. Well, great job guys. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Tomasello with KBW. Please proceed. Ryan Tomasello – KBW: Hi, yes. Thanks for taking my questions. Regarding the incremental yields you guys saw during the quarter, can you comment on the differentiation between those by product type, both on the first mortgages and the mezz that you did during the quarter?

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, Ryan, are you focusing on the differential in what yield, in the growth yield on the assets we originated or on the increase in the interest income side from quarter-to-quarter? Ryan Tomasello – KBW: Just the gross yield on the new assets.

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, the gross yield on the assets was 7.61% in the third quarter, and for the most part as Ivan mentioned, we target to lever our returns to generate levered returns in the low to mid-teens, and we did that in the third quarter again. The bridge product tends to come in obviously at a lower yield because it’s a much more attractive product from a risk profile, and the mezz and the PE usually come in anywhere from 12 to 15% on yield. So mezz will get 12 to 15%, and the bridge product will get a rate that allows us to get a levered return of 13 to 15%. Ryan Tomasello – KBW: So is the mix of bridge products versus mezz and PE what drove the loan yield up pretty largely quarter-over-quarter, and going forward would you expect loan yields to remain stable from where they are?

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

Okay, so let’s talk about that. The yields on the—the gross yield on the loans actually was down slightly in the third quarter from the second quarter, not a lot. Our gross yield on our second quarter originations was 7.75, and in the third quarter it was 7.61, so we did a really good job with the yield compression and continuing to have strong gross yields. But the reason, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, that the interest income was up so much during the quarter is when you have accelerated runoff, and we do get it and we’ve gotten it in the last several quarters, you do get to accelerate fees that you’re accreting into income over the life of those loans. It just so happened in the third quarter the amount of accelerated fees we were able to receive, which was cash, was much higher than it was in the second quarter and maybe going forward. We always get some acceleration, just the timing is not something we can ever predict or control. So the way I look at it if you’re going to guide yourself to your model is look to the numbers that I gave in my prepared remarks on what the spot yield is going forward on our portfolio at September 30 and what the spot debt rate is, and then layer in whatever you think you need for runoff and originations or any accelerated fees to get to your new number. Ryan Tomasello – KBW: Okay, got it. That’s helpful – thanks. Then just switching gears, would you be able to provide any update on a potential internalization, which I know you guys have spoken to in the past?

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, unfortunately we can’t. We can only guide you to what’s in our 10-Q at this point, and if and when there is something to talk about, we will be able to talk about it with you. Ryan Tomasello – KBW: Okay, fair enough. Thank you for taking my questions.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, to present your question, please press star, one. Your next question comes from the line of Richard Eckert with MLV & Company. Richard Eckert – MLV & Company: Good morning. Thanks for taking my call. I had a follow-up to an earlier question. I believe earlier this year, maybe the first quarter conference call, you spoke of intensely competitive conditions and they’ve probably only gotten more competitive, and that you intended to see the bulk of your originations in the first half of the year. That seems to—I mean, you just seem to keep on going. There doesn’t seem to be—I know it’s out there, but there doesn’t seem to be any competitive pressures on your new loan volumes. Can you speak to what we can expect to see in terms of origination volumes in the fourth quarter and maybe 2015?

Ivan Kaufman

President and CEO

Sure, let me comment on that and Paul will be a little more specific on the numbers. We continue to be surprised at our ability to originate the business we’re doing, and a lot of that has to do with the manager having such a good footprint in building his business and getting not only its market share but probably bigger than its market share in being a nationwide lender. So we’re seeing continued opportunities, and we’re not chasing big loans. It’s consistently doing loans in the $5 million to $25 million area which we’ve built a tremendous reputation. So we’re quite pleased and surprised we’re not as impacted by the competitive landscape as others have. We are seeing some compression on yield, but the firm’s reputation and the ability to close loans efficiently and work with repeat borrowers has allowed us to really have continued supply of consistent originations. With respect to the fourth quarter, we were—we actually just revised up internally our own numbers on the fourth quarter. We thought it would be a little lighter. Paul, why don’t you walk through the fourth quarter a little bit as you put some guidance in our remarks.

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, so Richard, good question. As Ivan mentioned, we are pleasantly surprised at our ability to continue to compete in this market. We did expect our originations to be a little more front-loaded in the first couple of quarters. A couple of things. In the second quarter, we did $170 million; in the third quarter, we did $240 million. If you remember our last quarter call, we did expect the second quarter to come in a little bit higher, and some of the loans just timing-wise ended up early in the third quarter, so that shifted the volume a little more in the third quarter than it did in the second quarter, but it was really just timing. As far as the fourth quarter, we do expect, as we guided, to end up the year somewhere between 875 and 900, which would put fourth quarter originations just under 200 to just over 200, so we could do a little more, a little less. However, we’ve been pleasantly surprised, as Ivan said. We’ve also been surprised on the runoff side. We did expect, as you remember in our last quarter, for runoff to start to slow a little bit, and that has not occurred, so the runoff has been a little bit more excessive than we expected, and again we’re guiding the fourth quarter runoff to be in the 230 range, which is the average we’ve had in the last three quarters. We didn’t originally expect that. Things have been paying off earlier, but again it’s been positive. It’s been temporarily painful to the margins, but it’s been positive because it’s de-levering these vehicles significantly quicker, which is going to allow us to replace them early in the first quarter. Richard Eckert – MLV & Company: Okay, thank you very much for the detail.

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Lee Cooperman with Omega Advisors. Lee Cooperman – Omega Advisors: Thank you, good morning. Just my favorite question, maybe you can update it. What is a realistic return equity for you guys to be earning, and when is that likely to occur? Secondly, your sense of the timing of a dividend increase, given your optimism about 2015, when that’s likely to occur? I guess third, you’ve kind of addressed it, but can we assume that equity is off the table at anywhere near current prices?

Ivan Kaufman

President and CEO

Paul, I’ll let you take a stab at all three, and I’ll fill in.

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

Sure. So Lee, this year we’ve done quite well with many components, and I think through the nine months we ended up generating an AFFO of just under $31 million or $0.61, which is a return of over 10% on average common equity. To your question of what the right return on our equity is— Lee Cooperman – Omega Advisors: Hold on, did you say 10%? I’m looking at $9 book value.

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

Yes, I understand. I was looking at our average common equity. So what’s a good—you’re looking at the adjusted book value. So on the adjusted book value, it was certainly lower than that. To your question of what’s a good return, obviously we’d like our return to be in the 7 to 10% range on our adjusted book value. It will take us time to get there because we have to un-trap this cash and put it to work, and that leads into your second question, which is when will we see an increase in the dividend. We certainly expect our ’15 earnings to climb, and more importantly I think and more significantly, we expect our 2015 run rate at some point, whether it’s earlier or later, into ’16 to be even greater. So we can’t predict exactly when the dividend will increase, but we do expect ’15 to be more positive and obviously ’16 extremely more positive, so we expect that as it grows and gets more positive, we will evaluate the dividend of ’15 and grow it. To your—I think the third question that you asked— Lee Cooperman – Omega Advisors: The equity financing.

Paul Elenio

Chief Financial Officer

Yes, the equity financing. So the third part of your question is a good one, and I think we’ve made it clear in our prepared remarks that if we’re successful, and we fully expect to be, to unwind these vehicles in January or February of the first quarter, that we will generated a significant amount of cash coming out of these vehicles, and that equity is in our opinion completely off the table at these prices for a period of time, that we’ll be able to deploy that capital into the new investments. Ivan, is that correct?

Ivan Kaufman

President and CEO

Yes. We feel very comfortable at de-levering these vehicles, and freeing up all that trapped equity will give us the ability to fund originations and growth in our originations business for a good period of time. Lee Cooperman – Omega Advisors: Thank you. Good luck, guys. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

There are no additional questions at this time. I would now like to turn the presentation over to Mr. Ivan Kaufman for closing remarks. Please proceed.

Ivan Kaufman

President and CEO

Well thank you everybody for taking the time to listen to our call. We think the first three quarters we’ve done an outstanding job, and the fourth quarter is lining up to be very positive to complete what we believe will be a great 2014 leading into ’15. Enjoy the rest of the day. Bye bye.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today’s conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.