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ABM Industries Incorporated (ABM)

Q3 2018 Earnings Call· Fri, Sep 7, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the ABM Industries Third Quarter Fiscal 2018 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Ms. Susie Choi, Investor Relations for ABM Industries. Thank you. You may begin.

Susie Choi

Analyst

Thank you all for joining us this morning. With us today are Scott Salmirs, our President and Chief Executive Officer and Anthony Scaglione, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We issued our press release yesterday afternoon announcing our third quarter fiscal 2018 financial results. A copy of this release and an accompanying slide presentation can be found on our corporate website. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that our call and presentation today contain predictions, estimates and other forward-looking statements. Our use of the words estimate, expect and similar expressions are intended to identify these statements. These statements represent our current judgment of what the future holds. While we believe them to be reasonable, these statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially. These factors are described in a slide that accompanies our presentation. During the course of this call, certain non-GAAP financial information will be presented. A reconciliation of those numbers to GAAP financial measures is also available at the end of the presentation and on the company’s website under the Investor tab. I would now like to turn the call over to Scott.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

Thank you, Susie. Good morning, everyone. Before I begin my quarterly remarks, I want to welcome our newest Board member, Don Colleran. We announced Don’s appointment to our Board yesterday. As you may have seen in our press release, Don is a seasoned executive and currently Executive Vice President and Chief Sales Officer at FedEx. He brings a wealth of experience and knowledge, particularly on sales and revenue generation and we are thrilled to have him on our Board. So, by now, I am sure you had a chance to review our earnings release; and this morning, Anthony and I will provide you some additional detail into our results. We will also give you an update on what we are seeing from a labor perspective and discuss our areas of focus as we work to end the year in line with our outlook and prepare for 2019 forward. Our results for the third quarter were largely as expected. We delivered strong organic growth of 4.5%, which continues to demonstrate our new sales culture. We saw expansion with some of our top clients, particularly in the Business & Industry and Technology & Manufacturing segments, as marquee companies continue to choose ABM as they expand and grow. Additionally, Technical Solutions had a record sales quarter in the U.S. which enabled 14% organic growth. Top line growth remains a key priority for the entire company as our sales team and operation teams work towards ending the year with a healthy pipeline. We believe we can continue the new sales momentum based on the $460 million we delivered in the first half of the year and head towards our goal of $900 million in annualized new sales. We are committed to recruiting, training, and coaching great sales power. In fact, we currently have more…

Anthony Scaglione

Analyst

Thanks Scott. I will now review the details behind our third quarter results. As Scott just mentioned we completed our acquisition of GCA Services Group on September 1 of last year. As a result, this will be the last full quarter in which our GCA business will be reflected on an inorganic basis for all impacted segments. Of course, our overall results for future periods will continue to reflect higher amortization, interest expense and share count dilution resulting from the transaction. In addition, our government services sale occurred in May 2017 and this will be the last quarter in which any year-over-year comparison reflects this year’s absence of that business. Now on to the third quarter, total revenues for the quarter were $1.6 billion, up 23.2% versus last year driven by GCA revenues of $260 million and organic growth within the Business & Industry, Technical Solutions and Technology & Manufacturing segment. More specifically, our organic growth rate for the quarter was 4.5%, which includes $8 million of higher management reimbursement revenue, primarily in our B&I and Aviation segments. On a GAAP basis, our income from continuing operations was $33.7 million or $0.51 per diluted share versus $32.9 million or $0.58 per diluted share. Last year’s GAAP income from continuing operations reflected favorable adjustments for certain tax positions of approximately $15 million. Our results also reflect the following items that are predominately related to our acquisition of GCA, higher amortization of approximately $11 million, which is embedded within each impacted reportable segment, higher interest expense of $10.1 million, and an increase in weighted average shares outstanding on a diluted basis. Excluding the impact of segment related amortization, our overall operational results benefited from GCA related revenue predominantly within Education, Technology & Manufacturing and B&I segment. On an adjusted basis, income from…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time we will be conducting the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Michael Gallo with C.L. King. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Gallo

Analyst

Hi, good morning.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

Good morning Michael.

Michael Gallo

Analyst

Yes. I just wanted to delve in a little bit on the obviously labor has been and continues to be a headwind. So, you’ve had a little more time now with some of the mitigation and other efforts around technology. I was wondering if you’ve been able to kind of dimensionalize what kind of that – whether you think in time you can mostly offset, partially offset, completely offset. Obviously, pricing is always a mixed discussion, but I guess in terms of kind of controlling what you can control just without – just assuming for a second that you don’t have pricing, how much you can kind of offset internally. And then I was wondering if there might be some opportunity given your size and scale that you use the bundling strategy perhaps as a way to get price -- without getting price, but by perhaps offering greater scope of service?

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

Yes. It’s a good question and I think all things being equal in the labor market and I think that’s a big caveat, right. Because generally speaking we don’t know which way labor is going, is it going to stay the same or the pressure is going to increase or will they abate a little bit. But assuming all things being equal, I think we have done pretty well so far in terms of mitigating, and we talked about a 60-basis-point push annualized and that we will be able to overcome 40 basis points of it. So, we are pleased with where we are and as we go into next year with that as kind of the baseline, we will look at some of the tools that we are putting forth on the IT side, specifically the new HRIS system sort of to help us in terms of workforce management, and then the new time and attendance system that’s going to be cloud based, that’s going to have tools for scheduling alerts for our managers in terms of overtime. So there is a lot of good stuff coming our way to help us mitigate. And I think the real question Michael, is whether or not those tools will just allow you to stay even right or that will help you accelerate. And that remains to be seen, but we are pleased about where we were heading ahead of time with our investments to help us mitigate that. And then cross selling is always a big thing for us, right, because the more you can bundle services, it really does two things, it helps you get stickier with the clients. So it should push out your retention and your ability to retain, but also you have a chance to increase your margins, right, because typically it’s the same amount of overhead from an SG&A standpoint when you are adding services and you have one account manager. So I think when you bundle all that together, we feel like we are in pretty good shape, but the big wildcard for not just ABM, but for everybody is where will labor markets go in 2019.

Michael Gallo

Analyst

And just as a follow-up to that, Scott, I mean obviously a lot of these services are done in-house everybody is dealing with the same local market labor pressures, so I was wondering if you have had any discussions from perhaps people that didn’t outsource traditionally who might be looking at this inflationary labor market and might now be more interested in outsourcing than they were in the past?

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

That’s the longer-term hope. We are actually organizing some of our sales force in certain verticals around targeting first-time outsourcing. We think it’s particularly ripe in the education sector, because so much of that is in-sourced right now, whereas less of that in B&I. B&I is a much more mature market predominantly outsourced already. So I think we are trying to be very strategic about where we place our sales assets and also how we structure our commission program, so people are incented to go after an outsourcing, which is a longer term play than going after a competitive bid.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Andy Wittmann with Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Andy Wittmann

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Great, good morning. Just wanted to kind of dissect the quarter a little bit to understand some of the moving pieces, actually, I guess you guys are pretty clear on the call that you are – the outlook that you laid out last quarter for the labor market headwinds are really almost essentially the same today as they were three months ago. At that time, you talked about how on an annualized basis you are seeing -- you are expecting about 40 basis points net headwind to margins. It looks like that’s still in place, I guess my question is as I look at kind of the new segment margin guidance that you gave here, you took it down a smidge in aviation and education. Those are a couple of the markets that you highlighted last quarter as well with some labor market headwinds, you took it up in technical solutions. Given that’s the case that the aviation and the education are more in the annuity and the technical solution is more of a project-based business, does that imply that there was some degree of labor inflation that you saw this quarter, it was maybe a little bit different from what you had seen last quarter or is this just a clear view after operating on these new segments for a longer period of time?

Anthony Scaglione

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

So in the quarter we saw incremental labor against our original forecast specifically in those two segments that you just highlighted. But again we put in place mitigating actions that we landed as expected but slightly off on the labor line.

Andy Wittmann

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. So what – can you give us some bookings as to maybe how labor on the annuity type business maybe varied versus your initial expectation there?

Anthony Scaglione

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

We saw about 15 basis points more in the quarter than what we would have expected.

Andy Wittmann

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And then just digging into GCA a little bit, it looks like you guys are making the comment that you are operating at the high end of the synergies, can just – Anthony just refresh us about what the run rate of the synergies that have been actioned already was at the end of the quarter and then just give us some context of that how much of a tailwind that’s going to be to your profitability next year?

Anthony Scaglione

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Sure. So we are still guiding for this full year in your real life synergies of roughly $50 million at the midpoint and that will guide towards a the run rate heading into 2019 at the higher end of $25 million to $30 million range. The synergies thus far are pretty much completed by the end of Q4. There is a little bit that’s going to be in fiscal ‘19, but for the most part those actions have already been taken place.

Andy Wittmann

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Just continuing to go down the GCA tunnel here a little bit, there were some comments in your prepared remarks about the education end market, you went through kind of faster, it sounds like you mentioned there are some retention issues given that the labor pressures have been a little bit higher there, basically it sounded like you can come to terms because the customer was thinking that they didn’t have to pay for the higher labor, can you just talk a little bit maybe Scott more about what you are seeing in that end market in particular, it sounds like there is a bit of a retention issue there and sounded a little bit disappointed, so taking a little bit more meat on that bone would be helpful for us?

Scott Salmirs

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Sure. So I think from an education side, I would look this in two ways, I will look at it kind of top line sales and then also from the labor perspective. And I think the sales wasn’t what we hoped it would be, it was a little bit essentially flat. And I think I have to take – I have to be measured in my reactions that all because it was a year of integration, right. This was the year we were getting our operational teams in line. We were getting our sales team shaping up. We just appointed Head of Marketing as a permanent position, so there is a lot of moving parts to sell, but I still would like to seeing us doing a little bit better on the top line there. And then on the bottom line, it was labor markets, right. This is tough, we have always talked about how education for us is kind of stratified on the bottom half of the United States which tends to be non-union lower wage market. So you get more turnover more wage pressure so – and I will tell you, we are pretty optimistic about next year. We have a project that we have in place now where we are specifically targeting education facilities that are in-source right now where we think we had an opportunity over the next 12 to 24 months to try to flip that and we are aggressively going after contracts that we think are going to be coming out to bid in the next 12 months. So our education team now that they are solidified and they are operating as one unit and soon be on one ERP system, midyear next year, I think there is a lot of white space there for us over the long-term.

Andy Wittmann

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, great. I guess maybe one more for now from me, we have seen in other service companies different end-market health between domestic U.S. markets and some level of degradation in the UK everybody points to Brexit. So it’s hard to attribute it to something or another, but just given that you do have some exposure to the UK, I wanted to kind of get your take on what you are seeing there and how that could affect your business on a go forward basis?

Scott Salmirs

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Sure, I mean it’s so interesting right, because Carillion collapsed in January of this year, I think it was January 15. And I think a lot of us were pretty optimistic that it would create a bigger market space and bigger opportunity and it really didn’t materialize and we are seeing that from a lot of our competitors across the space as well, margins have compressed and it’s been even tighter. And I think a lot of that has to do with the UK economy itself whether it’s Brexit or not remains to be seen, but the UK market is certainly tightened up and it is 100% counterintuitive compared to what’s going on, but it’s a reality of what we are facing. We are refocusing some of our services to go to places where we think could be higher growth. We have been traditionally focused on the retail segment over there as a larger portion of the market and we are going to be moving more towards commercial, maybe manufacturing and really trying to leverage some of our U.S. clients, because they are still having big presence in the UK despite everything you read about Brexit. So we are optimistic about the UK, but certainly this year did not pan out as we had hoped.

Andy Wittmann

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, thanks for that color. I am going to yield the floor and maybe pop back in at the end. Thanks, Scott.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst · Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Very nice.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Marc Riddick with Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Marc Riddick

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, good morning.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning.

Marc Riddick

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

I was wondering if you could give an update on where we are with tax pressure and some of the intakes that you have received there and kind of the message that we are seeing so far?

Scott Salmirs

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. So tag pricing, we talked about this for the last few months as one of our bright spots from a technology standpoint and the fact that the field was so excited that we were rolling out some technology that they felt was useful. We are real happy with where we are in our B&I segment, which is our biggest segment. We are over 75% adoption on tags that are eligible, not all tags are right for the tag price, but 75% adoption and I think in this early stage, Marc, it’s less about for us did it increase your tags, did it increase your bottom line, I think we will start understanding that over the coming months and realistically years as our AI component starts figuring out. You know on a particular building you could start moving your margin in a different place and that particular segment, law firms pay more than investment banks. So over time, we will start understanding kind of the top line and bottom line implications. For me, given all the challenges in the current market, I am excited over the fact that it used to take 2.5 days to generate a tag whereas now it could just take a few hours between inputting it and getting it into our work order system, which we are making some enhancements in 2019 to even shrink that time period. So I am particularly excited that our teams are embracing the technology, they are using it and it’s allowing them to spend more time managing their staff with clients, collecting cash, all the things that we want them doing rather than processing paperwork. So, I think it’s a two-part story right now, use it, adopt it, become more efficient, what has this done to increase sales and increase our bottom line.

Marc Riddick

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

And just as a reminder, so ballpark around when do you start to begin to anniversary when it rolled out, because I guess then you would start to at least begin to start gathering year-over-year comparisons and what have you right?

Scott Salmirs

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, we first started rolling this out in Q1 of last year and really the anniversary from a ramp up standpoint is really the second half of fiscal 2018. So, that will be the first time that we have adequate data to make those correlations, Marc.

Marc Riddick

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And then one last thing, I mean you talked about the efforts on the human resources side that would be layering in from a technological standpoint. I was wondering does that – is there much in the way of overlap for that data, will that information will be able to begin to collect with something like tag pricer or were those – would those be kind of viewed it separately?

Scott Salmirs

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

It’s interesting. While it’s separate, we are putting together a new IT strategy which is a data warehousing strategy where we are basically going to have one repository for all information. So over time, we will be pulling from one area. It just remains to be seen which data points we will be able to pull and turn into data analytics.

Marc Riddick

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, that makes sense.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst · Sidoti. Please proceed with your question.

I appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, there are no further questions at this time. I will turn the floor back to management for any closing comments.

Scott Salmirs

Analyst

I just wanted to thank everybody and welcome everybody to the fall now that summer is over and we are excited about where we are heading. We are excited about kind of our new sales culture and how we are navigating the labor markets. We think there is just lot of good positive things happening at the ABM and we are excited to come back to you at year end and update you on how we closed out the year and how we are going to guide to 2019. So, thanks everybody.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today’s teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.